Election results discussion thread (and sadly the inevitable aftermath)

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Dwarvenhobble

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You aren't.
Oh I am, I'm the one making it lol


Well after pages of pulling teeth you found twitter nobodies, congrats.

Now why should I care?

EDIT: Oh wait, apparently you found sarcastic people. GG.
Fucking knew it we gone from "No-one was" to "They're not important enough to count".

Them goals do keep moving on their own mysteriously lol

Get ready for ecofascists
So Stinky rebellion but with more anger bats and less super glue?
 

crimson5pheonix

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Oh I am, I'm the one making it lol
lol

Fucking knew it we gone from "No-one was" to "They're not important enough to count".

Them goals do keep moving on their own mysteriously lol
You're the one trying to say I should care about your paranoid ramblings. You started out putting words in other people's moths, before putting words in my mouth, and you still haven't even found anybody since even these nobodies were apparently being sarcastic.

You are still 0 for [indeterminate amount that implies commonality]

Please make a real point instead of wasting everyone's time.
 

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Obviously. Now, I wonder, why would somebody lie to the FBI about a perfectly innocent conversation taking place? And with the backdrop of all the US intelligence services agreeing that Russia was involved in trying to sway the election... If only there was some rational explanation! I'm wracking my brains!
a) He did not lie to them about the conversation taking place. He was forward that the conversation took place. He "lied" about whether a particular topic came up, the FBI had a recording that it came up briefly but was left at "we'll pick this up after the inauguration", and when he said they hadn't discussed that, the interviewers noted they believed he was being honest about his recollection of the conversation.
b) It still doesn't matter. By the logic of that investigation, we should be investigating anyone on incoming team Biden to make sure they don't talk to diplomats until they take office.
 

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And the others?

There were more than that 1 guy in my post lol
None of the others mentioned "marking supporters".

Are we ignoring the democrat who was on about Rothchild weather machines before?
I genuinely have no idea what relevance this has to the section you quoted. It reads as a complete non-sequitur.

People still haven't learned to be sceptical of claims after Jussie Smollett........

Did anyone just hear the wind says something?
if your takeaway from the Jussie Smollett incident was that Nazis and white supremacists can't be dangerous, then I don't know what to tell you.
 

Dwarvenhobble

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lol



You're the one trying to say I should care about your paranoid ramblings. You started out putting words in other people's moths, before putting words in my mouth, and you still haven't even found anybody since even these nobodies were apparently being sarcastic.

You are still 0 for [indeterminate amount that implies commonality]

Please make a real point instead of wasting everyone's time.
Still not getting the point I see..............

Literal lists were being made at one point but now the site is down it doesn't matter / didn't exist ever?

You're claiming Trump is trying for a coup and putting words in his mouth are you not?
 

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Still not getting the point I see..............
There is no point except the paranoid ramblings.

Literal lists were being made at one point but now the site is down it doesn't matter / didn't exist ever?
There are no lists, you haven't shown a single one. You had 2 people not doing what you said they were doing and 1 person doing the literal opposite of what you said they were doing, but I should be worried about that instead of...

You're claiming Trump is trying for a coup and putting words in his mouth are you not?
The literal coup that was attempted and the ongoing attempt to silence voters, a very real, proven, and immediate threat.

You're divorced from reality.
 

Dwarvenhobble

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None of the others mentioned "marking supporters".
Pretty sure it's implied by them mentioning conservatives or "Them all"


I genuinely have no idea what relevance this has to the section you quoted. It reads as a complete non-sequitur.
Anti-semitism issues




if your takeaway from the Jussie Smollett incident was that Nazis and white supremacists can't be dangerous, then I don't know what to tell you.
I'm saying there's been a LOT of fake stuff going on and fear drummed up due to the fake stuff and people often not learning the truth.

Off the top of my head here's some of the fakes or cases where things were far more innocent.

Trump supporter pulls off girls headscarf

KKK coming to University Campus

Church burned down by alleged Trump supporters

Car vandalised by Trump supporters

Car set on fire by Trump supporters

Jussie Smollett

Car vandalised as set on fire by Trump supporters

Nooses on Campus

Poop Swastika

Nascar Noose

Racist threats send to student
 

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a) He did not lie to them about the conversation taking place. He was forward that the conversation took place. He "lied" about whether a particular topic came up, the FBI had a recording that it came up briefly but was left at "we'll pick this up after the inauguration", and when he said they hadn't discussed that, the interviewers noted they believed he was being honest about his recollection of the conversation.
As always, you've picked the most absurdly charitable chain of events possible. He pled guilty to knowingly and willingly lying, and then withdrew it two years later, conveniently just before sentencing. In the face of that, what does it matter what interviewers reckoned at the time?

But, of course, you've chosen to put faith in what the interviewers reckoned, and in the request to withdraw-- and to ignore altogether the guilty plea he made under oath and stuck with for 2 years. To ignore that even Trump said he lied to the FBI.

b) It still doesn't matter. By the logic of that investigation, we should be investigating anyone on incoming team Biden to make sure they don't talk to diplomats until they take office.
If there's grounds for it. The Flynn investigation was sparked by the discovery he had made untrue statements to Pence and others. If something like that cropped up, yeah, it should be investigated.
 

Dwarvenhobble

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There is no point except the paranoid ramblings.
Rules for thee but not for me on your "side" it seems


There are no lists, you haven't shown a single one. You had 2 people not doing what you said they were doing and 1 person doing the literal opposite of what you said they were doing, but I should be worried about that instead of...
Oh because the lists no longer exist as the website got taken down doesn't mean they exist anymore?

how about twitter bot that named all Trump donors again?



The literal coup that was attempted and the ongoing attempt to silence voters, a very real, proven, and immediate threat.

You're divorced from reality.
No a coup if he doesn't use the words. Them's the rules I mean no-one is specifically saying list of Trump supporters so we can go after them right?
 

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Rules for thee but not for me on your "side" it seems
I do abide by equal rules for all. If you can find anything post it by all means.

Oh because the lists no longer exist as the website got taken down doesn't mean they exist anymore?

how about twitter bot that named all Trump donors again?

Ah yes, those dastardly web users looking up public information, how dare. And the makers are saying to blacklist everyone on the list? They aren't? You're still paranoid? Whoulda guessed?


No a coup if he doesn't use the words. Them's the rules I mean no-one is specifically saying list of Trump supporters so we can go after them right?
I don't know what rules you think you're operating on, but you clearly have out of whack priorities. Or you're here thinking the only thing that matters is rhetoric. You're trying to convince me that Trump supporters will be blacklisted, having shown literally 0 proof of it. Meanwhile Trump is actually bad and doing a bad and did a bad, but you think it's rhetorically identical despite it being massively different.
 

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Pretty sure it's implied by them mentioning conservatives or "Them all"
There's no mention of "marking" anyone, except in the sarcastic tweet. Do we really need to go through this back-and-forth over every tiny point?


Right, so... what does this have to do with a bunch of white supremacists in an online forum, or randomers on Twitter? I genuinely don't know where you're going with this, or what it has to do with anything.

I'm saying there's been a LOT of fake stuff going on and fear drummed up due to the fake stuff and people often not learning the truth.

Off the top of my head here's some of the fakes or cases where things were far more innocent.
OK. And your takeaway from these incidents is that white supremacists or neo-Nazis don't pose a real physical threat?
 
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If there's grounds for it. The Flynn investigation was sparked by the discovery he had made untrue statements to Pence and others. If something like that cropped up, yeah, it should be investigated.
You're still imagining an impossible series of events. The discovery of untrue statements cannot spark the investigation that "discovered" them. That just isn't how cause and effect works.
 

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Ultimately he will leave office?
Unknown, but signs overall point to "yes," though how smoothly he goes out to door remains to be seen.

The GSA finally called Biden the apparent winner and, while top Republicans are keeping their mouths shut on the result of the election, it's kind of clear to everybody that Biden had a fairly clear, if also close, win in more than enough states to get a majority of electors to win (itself ignoring a decisive popular vote majority).
 

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Unknown, but signs overall point to "yes," though how smoothly he goes out to door remains to be seen.

The GSA finally called Biden the apparent winner and, while top Republicans are keeping their mouths shut on the result of the election, it's kind of clear to everybody that Biden had a fairly clear, if also close, win in more than enough states to get a majority of electors to win (itself ignoring a decisive popular vote majority).
It's pretty hard to see what Trump could do to stay in power at this point. States are and or have certified their votes and very few, if any, of the "Fraud" legal suits seem to have any merit or chance of convincing anyone but the Trumpkins.

There's the hypothetical of GOP legislators deciding to ignore their own certified votes and state laws and just send Trump electors to the EC but that seems like a pretty long shot at this point and would immediately turn into a massive shitshow at best, with every single person involved having their life and history under a national microscope.

At worst it triggers riots, lynching and civil war.
 
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