Subverse "apologize" for allowing known racist youtube to cover their game

[Gyrobot]

The makers of sci-fi sex game Subverse apologized after teaming up with a racist YouTuber, then backtracked

An awkward 'sorry-not-sorry' from the creators of one of Kickstarter's 16th most-funded video game project.

www.pcgamer.com

Honestly I am not surprised to see StudioFOW throw in their lot with Arch to give him coverage of their game since it sticks it to the bland if at least socially conscious corporate world, especially since Subverse had an ad that took a stab at Sony.

And good on pcgamer locking comments before Arch's supporters can fester like the CoD video on letting players be nonbinary.

 

[BrawlMan]

Welp, sucks to be them. Don't know why they would partner with someone like Arch in the first place. First I've heard of the guy, but FOW will be regretting that decision for a long time. Whether they want to or not.

 

[Worgen]

Companies really need to look into streamers more before doing deals with them. Remember when THQ Nordic decided it was a good idea to give an AMA on 8chan without actually looking into them?

 

[Gyrobot]

Companies really need to look into streamers more before doing deals with them. Remember when THQ Nordic decided it was a good idea to give an AMA on 8chan without actually looking into them?

Problem is no sane soul covers these games for we live in an age of sterile and safe media. So only alt right youtubers like Arch will give a positive coverage of the game.

Remember this game was funded on the principle of owning the left for their implied prudishness

 

[BrawlMan]

Remember this game was funded on the principle of owning the left for their implied prudishness

That was StudioFOW's motivation for making this game? That's it? Just to piss off some piss-ants who would not bother playing these type of games in the first place? Fine, make whatever game you want, but have some passion and better reasons. Don't make everything out of total spite, otherwise you forget why you made it at all and lose out on the fun you are creating everyone who wants to play.

 

[SilentPony]

Having never heard of Arch, which is weird cause Im way into Warhammer, or StudioFOW I did a quick google search. First off wow porn is really coming along these days, good for them! Not sure how they managed to get voice actors to voice sex scenes without cracking up laughing because of how silly sex talk really is. But Arch-Warhammer, boy howdy that's a fucked up dude. Apparently he said black people look weird being space marines because the Primarchs weren't black, and that's not how that works at all. Also a lot of sexist and other racists shit. Yeah fuck that guy.

 

[Worgen]

Problem is no sane soul covers these games for we live in an age of sterile and safe media. So only alt right youtubers like Arch will give a positive coverage of the game.

Remember this game was funded on the principle of owning the left for their implied prudishness

That would make more sense if the left wasn't the ones that seem to be ok with porn games. Kotaku has had a number of pro sex game articles on it and it covered Subverse a decent amount.

Actually check out how they cover this story.

Sex Game Uses Far-Right YouTuber For Promo, Claims To Be "Unaware" Of His "Polarizing Background"

The developers of Subverse, one of the most anticipated adult games of all time, thought it would be a great idea to publicise their game via a video with Arch, formerly known as Arch Warhammer, a man who we last saw calling Creative Assembly “cuck beta leftists”.

kotaku.com

Not a single bad word about the game, just kind of disappointment in the devs for this partnership. This is how they describe the game "... one of the most anticipated adult games of all time, ..."

 

[Trunkage]

If they were trying to own the libs, isn’t Arch the guy you are looking for?

I didn’t see anything in the article about what he did to make StudioFOW drop him

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

If they were trying to own the libs, isn’t Arch the guy you are looking for?

I didn’t see anything in the article about what he did to make StudioFOW drop him

Didn’t watch the video but apparently he said something racist about Islam. Which might be the worst example of whom you’d want to offend since they, like, can be pretty intolerant of that sort of thing themselves.

Anyways, I thought this statement was kinda funny,

In terms of the previous statement regarding Arch, we were bombarded suddenly with posts from different political groups, and as a result we acted in haste. After all, we are only titty software developers but suddenly we found ourselves in a political debate.

 

[Bob_McMillan]

Apparently he said black people look weird being space marines because the Primarchs weren't black, and that's not how that works at all. Also a lot of sexist and other racists shit. Yeah fuck that guy.

Is he even really a Warhammer fan then...

Anyway, fuck this dude but I have a feeling this is an example of "any publicity is good publicity". It would be pretty weird to consider whether or not a porn game was promoted by a racist (by accident no less apparently) as basis for buying a game, and I'm almost certain this story has gotten people who haven't heard of the game before interested.

EDIT: I gave into my curiosity and checked out the Kickstarter, the game really has that SFM porn vibe. It's fucking hilarious to see how much they're ripping off from Mass Effect and weirdly enough also Xcom.

 

[Gyrobot]

Is he even really a Warhammer fan then...

Anyway, fuck this dude but I have a feeling this is an example of "any publicity is good publicity". It would be pretty weird to consider whether or not a porn game was promoted by a racist (by accident no less apparently) as basis for buying a game, and I'm almost certain this story has gotten people who haven't heard of the game before interested.

EDIT: I gave into my curiosity and checked out the Kickstarter, the game really has that SFM porn vibe. It's fucking hilarious to see how much they're ripping off from Mass Effect and weirdly enough also Xcom.

Honestly if I had the resources I would make a game based on the misadventures of a NotJohnCarter/NotBuckRogers/NotHanSolo/NotPaulAtreides

 

[Neuromancer]

Honestly, even if they agreed on Arc's politics, why the fuck would they partner with him of all youtubers out there. He's literally the nerdiest virgin of a warhammer fan this side of youtube. Even if they agreed with his asinine screeching at everything that he feels is a threat to "muh true warhummr grimdark" his charisma is so sterile I would use it to disinfect wounds.

 

[Dreiko]

I don't think companies have to scrutinize the non-gaming opinions of people who review their games. I legit don't care if it's the devil reviewing the game, as long as they know gaming and are informed and also good at conveying that knowledge that's all that ought matter.


Also, isn't this supposed to be an adult-only game? I'm pretty sure adults can handle reading a review if they're inquiring about some sort of 3D sex game or whatever this is lol.

 

[Trunkage]

I don't think companies have to scrutinize the non-gaming opinions of people who review their games. I legit don't care if it's the devil reviewing the game, as long as they know gaming and are informed and also good at conveying that knowledge that's all that ought matter.


Also, isn't this supposed to be an adult-only game? I'm pretty sure adults can handle reading a review if they're inquiring about some sort of 3D sex game or whatever this is lol.

Aren't you assuming Arch is good at reviewing? They only hired him for such a position based on his conservative view, not based on his ability

 

[Dreiko]

Aren't you assuming Arch is good at reviewing? They only hired him for such a position based on his conservative view, not based on his ability

I am definitely not, I'm assuming nothing on that front because nothing was mentioned about it. In my mind he's an unknown or neutral (which in literal terms means he's prolly pretty bad since I have low opinion of reviewers).


But yeah why they hired you and how good of a job you do are separate elements, I don't care why they hire people as long as they do the job well. (and again how good the job was in this particular case here is not related to the principle I am laying out which is a general one that ought apply to every situation irrespective of other factors)



Basically, one ought to always first give the guy a chance to do a good job if one only knows that the person is conservative and nothing else about them like I did and I assume most people who don't know this dude will come into this situation likewise. Just writing off his potential to do a good review because he's a "racist" or because he was hired due to being one is insane. To do otherwise, to care more about his being a racist, means you're not really into this for the game but rather are looking for games or game reviews to reinforce your politics or to be used as tool to further your political goals, which would mean you're looking for propagandistic games/reviews that will be used as means to an end, when art should be an end in and of itself and it shouldn't be tethered to the politics people go into it with.

 

[Trunkage]

I am definitely not, I'm assuming nothing on that front because nothing was mentioned about it. In my mind he's an unknown or neutral (which in literal terms means he's prolly pretty bad since I have low opinion of reviewers).


But yeah why they hired you and how good of a job you do are separate tasks, I don't care why they hire people as long as they do the job well. (and again how good the job was in this particular case here is not related to the principle I am laying out which is a general one that ought apply to every situation irrespective of other factors)

I can only attest to his ability to read wikis. Listening to 40k lore, he sometimes popped with interesting topics. But he's far down the bottom of the list of people I liked to listen to. He's not some I liked listening to for reviews because he would rant more than convey messages

But I've stopped listening to him after his whole 'cant have women space marine' rants

 

[Dreiko]

I can only attest to his ability to read wikis. Listening to 40k lore, he sometimes popped with interesting topics. But he's far down the bottom of the list of people I liked to listen to. He's not some I liked listening to for reviews because he would rant more than convey messages

But I've stopped listening to him after his whole 'cant have women space marine' rants

40k is one of those things I had passing interest in but never actually got into so I dunno what to say on that front. From what I heard 40k human women are used like cows or something right? Forced to breed to keep the human race alive or something? If you think of it in those terms I guess each woman can give you like 20+ soldiers in the long run so I guess it makes sense in that setting to not have them fighting because even if with body mods ensuring they're equal to men why use 1 unit of fighting when you could get 20 units out of it. I guess I can see em fighting if they're trying to survive and are pushed to the brink of death but then again this brink of death would have to take place over a long enough period where you'd take women and have time to train them and not put them in the breeding program, which I don't think is how dire cataclysmic events occur most of the time. I can more easily see such a thing happening so quick they would have no time to train any new fighting hands.


But yeah this is my super layman's understanding of that argument, I could be missing a ton of minor points for and against so take it for what it is.


edit: What if you had a granny squad? Where post-menopausal women are taught to fight? Maybe make em snipers or something? I guess that could work, but again I dunno how all the mechanics of this world really operate. Maybe they're too beat up by that point to be able to fight or maybe they somehow negated menopause or something with their space tech.

 

[Gyrobot]

Honestly, even if they agreed on Arc's politics, why the fuck would they partner with him of all youtubers out there. He's literally the nerdiest virgin of a warhammer fan this side of youtube. Even if they agreed with his asinine screeching at everything that he feels is a threat to "muh true warhummr grimdark" his charisma is so sterile I would use it to disinfect wounds.

Because Subverse's advertising for the game took a stab at Sony for the censorship of sexual content. This makes Arch a common ally along with his alt right fanbase who believe that the Blue states are out to destroy their sex drives and make diversity mandatory or face immediate chemical castration

 

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[Neuromancer]

Because Subverse's advertising for the game took a stab at Sony for the censorship of sexual content. This makes Arch a common ally along with his alt right fanbase who believe that the Blue states are out to destroy their sex drives and make diversity mandatory or face immediate chemical castration

The absolute state of porn game developers and gamers