This is the big one that everyone likes to avoid. When you're the boss, it's always your responsibility. And when shit goes sideways, it's always your fault. In any organization, every problem is a management problem.
Election results discussion thread (and sadly the inevitable aftermath)
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A lot of media proponents of the Dominion 'scandal' are making big statements that sounds like their written by lawyers because they don't want to be sued for slander...
But, you know, Dominion really did it
When it gets to the point where everything Trump ever does is bad, and nothing that him or republicans can do is ever good, then that crosses the boundary from criticism to irrational hatred.
Yeah, that's the problem. It pretends that Trump is single-handedly operating everything that goes on in the country. He doesn't. He isn't the Prime Mover.
And you know what the people who guided Trump said? Fauci said that masks don't work back in March.
Navarro wanted a travel ban, Fauci didn't.
Separation of powers. Check and balances. America isn't run like a top-down corporation, where the CEO gets to dictate everything they want. Trump is not "in charge" of everything.
So that's why I think it's irrational hatred.
My gripe is about the double standard of evidence on display here.
If people want to pretend that they have higher standards of evidence, then they shouldn't resort to hearsay and uncritically believe it, while simultaneously dismissing my evidence as hearsay. That's hypocritical.
Hmmm, now why would this need to be in a covid stimulus bill?
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Because they're afraid that Trump will use the Insurrection Act after all legal means have been exhausted
Also:
Lawsuit calls for allowing 5 states' legislatures to certify electors before congressional count
The states named in the suit include Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.
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Well, that's true, although most of the statements you've been putting forward have been from untrained members of the public volunteering as poll-watchers, rather than from professional lawyers (as that guy is). There's also a valid argument to be made that in order to dispute a positive claim, you only need to meet the standard of evidence put forward by the proponent of that positive claim; so if a claim only has hearsay to back it up, you needn't present anything more rigorous in order to dismiss it.
But yeah, in general I do take your point. I have no idea whether the justices have met at some point or another in person.
What is the material evidence, though? I've genuinely not seen anything but statement after statement (most of them entirely circumstantial).
You can filter by material, statistical, document, photo-audio-video, and more
I wouldn't call what is the current system of the United States to being "working out fine". Both parties are driving us off the "cliff", one of them is just going like 30mph and the other is going like 29mph. They both absolutely suck, I don't get why anyone defends either of them besides wanting to go off that cliff 1mph slower.
But Trump said that he hires ONLY the BEST people but then fires them almost immediately...
Fauci has done a HORRIBLE job as well. Biden keeping him on is pretty dumb.
The best thing I can say about Fauci is that he was probably hamstrung with what he was allowed to say, as was the CDC.
Pretty sure tstorm823 would have just as much problem blaming the rest of the culprits-- fanatical devotion to capitalism and maintaining the class structure.
Maybe we should just stop seeing people as one-dimensional villains, and realize that they're just people, just like you and I, with complex beliefs and justifications and values and fears. We're all just trying to survive and make our way from the cradle to the grave with the hand that we were given.
I really dislike the whole "make everyone who disagrees with me into some kind of horrible person" thing.
I mean I've literally seen him say that "communism" would not solve the pandemic response (even despite PRC and Vietnam and other socialist places having WAAAAAAAY better COVID stats), so
Imagine you're part of a team. One of the team half the time doesn't do their job, and half the time they do, they screw it up. Everyone else can compensate for and mitigate this dysfunction to some degree - but nevertheless, more errors are made, more unhappy clients/customers, more staff stress. The higher ranked that person is, the more dysfunction it is likely to create: and sometimes it really is the manager. The team can mostly get by on the humdrum, day-to-day processes, but it's the crises that really tend to expose the problems.
Hopefully it shouldn't need that much imagination, as it is something just about everyone has experienced.
The president might have constraints, and he might have a team to try to tidy up a lot of his mistakes, and plenty of governmental powers may be invested in the legislature and judiciary, but the president still has a lot of power to do damage with mistakes. What the president says and does matters.
It's hard to know how to respond to this, because it looks to me like simply failing to accept reality. Is the magnitude of it too great for you to process? There are also estimates such as excess deaths: the CDC put this at 300k by early October. That being consistent, >320k seems a very reasonable estimate.
We can perhaps be thankful that the federal system in the USA enabled many governors to take action independently of the federal government. However the grim reality is that facing a national crisis, the federal government went from taking no action, through frantically doing stuff that achieved very little, to giving up. The responsibility for the failure of the executive to respond coherently lies with the guy at the top. It's just not the inadequacies of the wider administration he runs, but that he personally also spent months lying to the public about the seriousness of the situation because he didn't want to be the bearer of bad news, then undermining key measures to protect people, and finally attacking and undermining governors that he had abandoned to cope with the crisis. It is right up there as one of the most pitiful performances by a national leader that 2020 was unlucky enough to witness.
My country likewise utterly flubbed handling covid-19, possibly worse than the USA. It's impossible not to look at peer countries like Netherlands, Greece, Germany and consider how many more people would be alive if the government had not been so thoroughly incompetent. As above, these crises exposed just how poor leaders like Trump are, and how dangerous to the wellbeing of their people and nation.
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Well that was quite clear from the beginning. It's the tobacco industry tactic all over again, it's not about being able to prove something is true, it's about spreading as much doubt as possible about the opposite being true.
To be fair China has a governance much closer to Fascism than Communism so I wouldn't use that as an example of communism fighting the pandemic.
Neither would I, really, but it does demonstrate that the United States could manage things way differently and have a huge impact on the spread of the virus.
In any case, Venezuela-- which is not really 'communist' either, in my opinion-- at present has had just under 1000 deaths from COVID according to the Google News Coronavirus tracker and a little under 111,000 cases. Texas, with around the same population, has had over 26,000 deaths from greater than 1.6 million total cases.
Vietnam, with a population three times either Texas or Venezuela (Vietnam's population is 95.54 million), has had a grand total of 1420 cases and 35 deaths. Now, there are some counties in the United States which have had less total cases and deaths than Vietnam. Tripp County in South Dakota is one of them, with 612 cases and 10 deaths. Impressively, those are under half of Vietnam's totals. Tripp County has a population of 5478 as of the year 2018.
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