Gina Carano Fired From “The Mandalorian” Over “Abhorrent” Social Media Posts

[ObsidianJones]

*snippage of Mace Windu*

And people were ok with Lando Calrissian before that. Because he wasn't a lead. If you look at the most racist tweets, it was before the movie was out. That's the reason for #BoycottStarWars

Racists Demand ‘Star Wars’ Boycott

#BoycottStarWarsVII, which trended all day Monday on Twitter, is the brainchild of conservative Trump supporters against the diverse casting of J.J. Abrams’s sequel.

www.thedailybeast.com

Look through it. Star Wars The Force Awakens released December 18th, 2015. The tweets encapsulated in that article were from October of that year.

Also, calling people 'muds' and saying 'stop appropriating white culture'. So I really don't think it's about writing.

Lastly and more importantly... The Prequels happened in 1999. The first really worldwide social media site I'd say is Myspace. And that happened in 2003. If twitter was around, I'm sure there would have been a stink.

*snippage about personal judgment.

I didn't know that about Deadpool 2. I wouldn't have seen or bought it, especially if I had to find out years after the fact. That makes it seem like a cover up.

And I get you being upset. I get others being upset. I get people wanting to take a stand and wanting to just strike back to things that they think are unfair. I literally had to shift through dozens of racist posts to figure out what I could post here without being offensive to others reading it. But the issue is that we also choose how to respond. I am tired of taking the higher road. I'm tired of being the adult. I want to kick things down, I want to yell and curse people out, because I'm sick of having to deal with willful ignorance, double speak, and outright lies from all sources.

Hostility is a choice. From people who want things to change, to people who want things to stay the same.

But if you have a cause you believe in, then you have a duty to that cause to reflect it in the best light possible. "Going down to their level" does nothing more than adding to the fringes. These people calling Gina a racist for... whatever reason, again, I'm not up in people's lives like that are wrong if there isn't any reason. People who call for the Boycotting of Star Wars because there are too many 'muds' are wrong just on that fact.

Now we as people who aren't in the fringes need to decide if we say screw it and join their ranks, or we decide on a better path.

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

So... there was an incident before the Twitter thing. Seems like an important factor that you SHOULD have brought up previously instead of pretending people are attacking out of the blue.

Yet they were attacking out of the blue because they demanded she share BLM links they wanted shared. It literally says words to the affect of "Share links to BLM stuff like we want and we'll stop" in one of the replies

Yeah, here's where I got with my sleuthing. Gina was having a disagreement with some people. There isnt a clear indication where this was, possibly offline or deleted.

The ones sending stuff seem to have made a push to delete their stuff.

Pedro tried to explain transgender and somewhat worked but the pronouns thing was an issue. Gina made a mistake and blamed everyone for this disagreement and then called them Nazis. There was an even bigger backlash against this tweet.

Except she didn't call them Nazis she actually said people likely wouldn't want you sending threats and abuse on their behalf.
It's kinda in those screenshots I literally linked to, I don't get why you you're making up claims she called then Nazis when she's clearly not calling them that.


So where did she call then Nazis again there?

I dont support Disney. This was a minorish thing. Didn't deserve a firing. I don't support Gina. She made a disagreement with some people and pretended everyone was doing it to her. While I understand that dogpiling is probably a large issue here causing her attacks, it doesn't justify it. Also, not to into insulting fan bases, so I understand why Disney is doing what they are doing. Doesn't justify an overaction but I understand it.

Dataracer showed just a small sample of what was going on.

This was all an escalation from something that didn't need to be escalated. I'm not going to blame Gina for all this escalation but am going to blame her patrially. If you looked at the Event the Shall Not Be Named, that's how it got started. Wild generalisation and stupid escalation. No one gets my vote

No it's a levelling the field and a putting down of a foot to tell them it's not acceptable.

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

People were mad at the SJW Black Stormtrooper as soon as the teaser trailer dropped. The main difference is that there wasn't a cottage culture of YouTube outrage grifters.

Mostly because people were used to the Stormtroopers being clones and no-one was aware quite how far into the future the new Trilogy was or the changes that had happened. Also funny how things have changed with some publications upset the New Order is too diverse now.

'Star Wars: Squadrons' Explores the Changing Face of Fascism

What does it mean when the notoriously oppressive Empire looks ... inclusive? The game raises new questions about tyranny in the galaxy—and at home.

www.wired.com

Less than the time between GoG 2 releasing and GoG 3 starting production.

Because Dave Batista basically said he'd refuse to work without James Gunn being rehired so it was delayed and basically shelved for a while almost indefinately until they brought Gunn back.

Big difference between apologizing for decades old (bad) jokes and getting a sweetheart deal from another major studio and doubling down on "I did nothing wrong" and working for a right wing grifter.

He only apologised caused it was in bad taste now and he made them at a different time lol

 

[ObsidianJones]

*snippage about Alex Rider*

But we get that. Betty White's first tv show was cancelled because she refused to limit a black talent named Arthur Duncan.

Betty White Reunited With Tap Dancer Whose Career She Launched in the ’50s

Betty White stood up to racism when she refused to take African-American tap dancer Arthur Duncan off her show back in the ’50s.

www.yahoo.com

Johnny Rico from Starship Troopers was played by Casper Van Dien. Who is obviously not Filipino as he was detailed to be in the book.

Juan Rico (novel)

Juan "Johnnie" Rico is the main character and protagonist of the novel Starship Troopers. Juan Rico was the privileged (and only) son of a wealthy Filipino family living in the Terran Federation capital, Earth. Near the end of his senior year of high school Johnnie's best friend, Carl, decided...

starshiptroopers.fandom.com

Our Gods are played by White Actors

'Gods of Egypt' director apologizes for 'whitewashed' cast

The film faced backlash for casting mostly white actors as Egyptians.

www.usatoday.com

We have white actors playing minority real life people along with characters.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/26-times-white-actors-played-people-of-color-and-no-one-really-gave-a-sht_n_56cf57e2e4b0bf0dab313ffc

Hell, read the last entry, #25. Irene. The director made the character white because he couldn't find a latina woman he felt like he wanted to protect

You have to understand that it's hard for someone like me to understand these ideas. You know, that it is harmful for the story to change a character for a sake of diversity while we have decades of characters changed to or played by white people because no one can actually stand looking at a minority for too long.

When white actors play minority roles, we get "why does it matter if the writing/movie is good". When minority actors are anywhere to be seen "WHY DO YOU HAVE TO MAKE THIS PC VIA DIVERSITY?!??!?!"

Do you get how vexing it is that people are more willing to see Slug Monsters talk to white people than black people sharing the spot light in a galaxy far, far away?

And if you do want to speak about corporate, limiting minorities because a possible group of white movie goers might not connect to a different race actor is the epitome of Corporate.

And as the links and what I can share from my own life... Minorities and women had to do that a hell of a lot more than certain people who are complaining about this.

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

And people were ok with Lando Calrissian before that. Because he wasn't a lead. If you look at the most racist tweets, it was before the movie was out. That's the reason for #BoycottStarWars

Racists Demand ‘Star Wars’ Boycott

#BoycottStarWarsVII, which trended all day Monday on Twitter, is the brainchild of conservative Trump supporters against the diverse casting of J.J. Abrams’s sequel.

www.thedailybeast.com

Look through it. Star Wars The Force Awakens released December 18th, 2015. The tweets encapsulated in that article were from October of that year.

Also, calling people 'muds' and saying 'stop appropriating white culture'. So I really don't think it's about writing.

Lastly and more importantly... The Prequels happened in 1999. The first really worldwide social media site I'd say is Myspace. And that happened in 2003. If twitter was around, I'm sure there would have been a stink.

Thing is we don't know and some of the Boycott stuff could have been people still just angry about Disney.

I didn't know that about Deadpool 2. I wouldn't have seen or bought it, especially if I had to find out years after the fact. That makes it seem like a cover up.

Oh yeh it was kinda covered up in the press quite a bit and deliberately not reported on.

The BBC did but they were one of the few

'Safety failures' led to death of Deadpool 2 stuntwoman

Investigators say its makers should have ensured motorcyclist Joi Harris was wearing a helmet.

www.bbc.co.uk

And I get you being upset. I get others being upset. I get people wanting to take a stand and wanting to just strike back to things that they think are unfair. I literally had to shift through dozens of racist posts to figure out what I could post here without being offensive to others reading it. But the issue is that we also choose how to respond. I am tired of taking the higher road. I'm tired of being the adult. I want to kick things down, I want to yell and curse people out, because I'm sick of having to deal with willful ignorance, double speak, and outright lies from all sources.

Problem is people will do that back. and if it's seen as the system being unfair things escalate.

Hostility is a choice. From people who want things to change, to people who want things to stay the same.

But if you have a cause you believe in, then you have a duty to that cause to reflect it in the best light possible. "Going down to their level" does nothing more than adding to the fringes. These people calling Gina a racist for... whatever reason, again, I'm not up in people's lives like that are wrong if there isn't any reason. People who call for the Boycotting of Star Wars because there are too many 'muds' are wrong just on that fact.

Now we as people who aren't in the fringes need to decide if we say screw it and join their ranks, or we decide on a better path.

The problem is who controls the lights.

You ever hear about #NotmyAerial ?

It started when Disney announced the new Little Mermaid being a black girl.

It was never reported on by any publication that I know of.

No-one covered it because within a day people had tracked it back and archived the very first people to tweet it. They were known paid bots who tweeted about it. The rest of their stuff was pushing other hashtags or sharing certain other media site articles.

I think it was Moviebob or some-one ike that who touched on how Hollywood has seen 30+ companies spring up all of which work to "Manage fan expectation and reaction online". Now Disney could have hired one or Disney might even have their own internal one. Thing is it's very lets say easy to frame stuff and get people talking about it to push films as things people must see because they're some landmark thing or to "Own the baddies" It's basically marketing.

Some publications pushed Black Panther as the first Black Superhero film. Some tried to pretend Captain Marvel was the first female led superhero movie.

People on both sides are in the wrong as you say. But things aren't changing because some people don't want them to change because they think they can win. It's politics spilling over into more areas thinking it can or will win the fight by making the battleground bigger to try and overwhelm their opponents or attack them from more sides.

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

But we get that. Betty White's first tv show was cancelled because she refused to limit a black talent named Arthur Duncan.

.... snipped due to forum being weird......

And as the links and what I can share from my own life... Minorities and women had to do that a hell of a lot more than certain people who are complaining about this.

The issues being other than the white saviour trope often a white actor playing a different race doesn't actually makes things come out as even more offensive as such beyond how annoying / offensive / dumb it is for them to fail to find a person of said race to play the character or whitewashing history.

The best example being Pvt. Vasquez in Aliens where James Cameron said he cast Jenette Goldstein because she was either the only one or one of the only ones who turned up to the audition and no Hispanic actors showed up for the part.

You don't get Black Nazis added or Black hero characters removed or losing their moment to shine or other such crap that Alex Rider ended up delivering if thought is applied rather than just diversifying for the sake of diversity rather than thinking through the themes. I mean the villain in the show is trying to replace everyone with clones that are as racist as he is to push for his new world order which when you remove the black soldier helping take him down because you want a woman Sniper and for some reason decide not to let the Black male solider have his moment for some baffling reason it really does feel like it undermines the point of "Yes the champion of the apartheid regime (the hench woman) is taken down by a black soldier.

Hollywood and a lot of other industries just don't seem to have figure this all out yet. Take making Hermione black in The Cursed Child play. Fine, actors play characters of different skin colours on stage all the time and the comment was she was deemed the best for the job when it started in the UK.

Thing is as it went to other countries and other groups put it on Hermione was made black in all of them, not Ron, Not Harry, Not any other character. It changed from "Well this is the best person for the job in our view" for the roles to "Well now Hermione has to be this skin colour".

I don't know the solution but I do think sometimes Hollywood really doesn't put much thought into it beyond "we need diversity change x character"

As a film example that also worked well (but also brought problematic implications) Wilson Fisk "Kingpin" in the Daredevil film. The guy they got for the role they said was just the best for it. I saw it and they were damn right he was great in the role. Though that comes with the problematic element of the head of crime then being changed from a black guy to a white guy.

 

[Kwak]

Yet basically no-one had an issue with Samuel L Jackson and Mace Windu. What it comes down to more is bad writing from what I can tell.
Well outside of China where Disney shrank Finn's imavge on posters and it's alleged reduced down his film role to appeal to China more. Hell that's allegedly why he and Rose aren't together in Rise of Skywalker.

The internet culture that exists now is completely different to the mid nineties.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

Mostly because people were used to the Stormtroopers being clones and no-one was aware quite how far into the future the new Trilogy was or the changes that had happened. Also funny how things have changed with some publications upset the New Order is too diverse now.

'Star Wars: Squadrons' Explores the Changing Face of Fascism

What does it mean when the notoriously oppressive Empire looks ... inclusive? The game raises new questions about tyranny in the galaxy—and at home.

www.wired.com

Man, it's obvious that you're *hoping* that that Wired article is upset, huh?

Because they aren't. Not in the slightest. Kinda torpedoes your whole argument. (Also, might've sold me on Squadrons)

So called "Lifetime Star Wars Nerds" didn't know that Stormtroopers have never been clones and crafted dozens of hours of outrage around it.

Because Dave Batista basically said he'd refuse to work without James Gunn being rehired so it was delayed and basically shelved for a while almost indefinately until they brought Gunn back.


He only apologised caused it was in bad taste now and he made them at a different time lol

Yeah, a decade ago. And...he didn't double down on "I don't see the problem with those jokes, Freaze Peach! Later losers!"
Don't think anybody's sticking their neck out for Gina Carano any more than they already have.

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

The internet culture that exists now is completely different to the mid nineties.

And yet
Falcon = No anger
War Machine = no anger other than at the recasting
Killjoys = No anger
Will Smith as Deadshot = no anger
Into the Spiderverse = no anger
Joe and Iris in the Flash = no anger
Iron Sky = no anger
Iron Sky 2 = no anger
Laser Team = no anger
Laser Team 2 = no anger
American Gods = no anger


So many times there's just no anger and people are fine with it but suddenly when there's a blow up people forget all the rest of the time or conveniently ignore them.

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

Man, it's obvious that you're *hoping* that that Wired article is upset, huh?

Because they aren't. Not in the slightest. Kinda torpedoes your whole argument. (Also, might've sold me on Squadrons)

So called "Lifetime Star Wars Nerds" didn't know that Stormtroopers have never been clones and crafted dozens of hours of outrage around it.

They were clones in the prequels. The working assumption was they were clones in the sequel trilogy too because it's mentioned more batches are being produced to meet need. Also it explains why they're all bad shots lol.

Yeah, a decade ago. And...he didn't double down on "I don't see the problem with those jokes, Freaze Peach! Later losers!"
Don't think anybody's sticking their neck out for Gina Carano any more than they already have.

I dunno you might be surprised to see people do so. Also thing would likely be better if Gunn had said that lol. Jolt things up a bit and make people wake up to the bullshit a bit. But no the modern culture is all about the illusion of civility unfortunately. It's why the likes of Weinstein, Faraci and potentially even Whedon weren't talked about or unmasked sooner.

 

[ObsidianJones]

*snips*

I'm going to respond to one thing and inquire something else of you.

Yes, I've heard about not my ariel. I think we had a thread on it.

Point is, the Ariel that we know of from the Disney Movie isn't the Ariel first illustrated.

The best guess is that Ariel looked like this.

If people said back in the 90's that the mythical creature of the sea shouldn't have redhair... they would be laughed out for being a kook that's too uptight about things.

But that's neither here nor there of it.

There are several times I pointed out and linked you to actual racists attacking John Boyega and Kelly Marie Tran. They were called Muds, they were given racist names, and the posters claimed them just existing is Anti-white. The most you've done to talk about the subject is to skirt around it and talk about how people might get tired of forced diversity.

Getting tired of something doesn't give anyone free reign to be a bigot.

Actual racists endlessly trolled these people. You had sympathy for Gina having to deal with unnecessary shit. And you know very well that if she really dealt with unnecessary shit, I would be against it.

But the fact remains you've used harsh twitters to condemn this SJW agenda you seemingly take exception over. This isn't the first time I've seen you do so. I've linked actual racists being horrible to people. And the most you've directly responded to racists saying they should #BoycottStarwars (which was actually in the title of one of the articles I linked). But then you state that "we don't know" when it comes to my article about how racists were trying to boycott StarWars.

It's with unease that I just quote what's there.

#BoycottStarWarsVII because I am sick of muds being casted in white parts. #StopAppropriatingWhiteCulture

— Lord Humungus (@DarklyEnlighten) October 19, 2015

#BoycottStarWarsVII because you can't market to 13% of the US population and ignore your primary demographic.

— Very Important Dog (@dogheadint) October 19, 2015

#BoycottStarWarsVII because white children deserve wholesome movies, not more PC anti-white diversity crap.

— End Cultural Marxism (@genophilia) October 19, 2015

You were certain when you saw those tweets against Carano. You're uncertain here. You don't know. Can you see why people can have trouble that? It feels inconsistent.

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

I'm going to respond to one thing and inquire something else of you.

-Snipped because forum being weird-

You were certain when you saw those tweets against Carano. You're uncertain here. You don't know. Can you see why people can have trouble that? It feels inconsistent.

No I think the people saying that to said actors are crap.
Thing worthy of unfortunate note though twitter is international and while I don't know said accounts could just be Chinese posters or other nationalities. Doesn't make them less crap but with Gina Carano I can point out it's very much more rooted in US centric politics at present.

Actual racists trolled them but the media and likely people at Disney had their back also as lets say more established actors I doubt they handled their own accounts much other than maybe Kellie Marie Tran on Instagram.

I also don't know how widespred the push was against Boyega and Tran .

#FireGinaCarano was trending #1 on twitter worldwide at one point last week (Twitter's trending ins manually curated it must be said). That's not the first time people have pushed it or it's get into trending either. In terms of size Dataracer on twitter showed a hundred or so examples and cancel Gina Carano was tending with 3,000 people calling for it. 3,000 in 24 hours and that was lower than previous times they've tried. I think some of the other attempts were 5K to 10K tweets.

There's also the further line that with Trans and Boyega it was insults. With Carano as you can see in the screenshot I linked to from dataracer it was people making up entire false stories about things she's supposed to have done, was Boyega being having people claiming that he encouraged their suicide?

 

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[Dwarvenhobble]

Yeah, there's nothing anti-semitic about using a variation on a picture first popularized by the Nazis, who used it to show how global economy was a game the Jews played to oppress Aryans. Once again we are back to the fact that while this picture is whitewashed, everyone who cares knows exactly where it came from and what its original meaning is. That means it is no mistake when people who are anti-semites today repost, even if they change it to remove the most obvious caricature identifiers of Jews. I believe the term is "Dog whistle".

Actually it seems more based on artist "Mear One"'s work. Though a number of elements have been changed and people switched out.

 

[Houseman]

Yeah, there's nothing anti-semitic about using a variation on a picture first popularized by the Nazis, who used it to show how global economy was a game the Jews played to oppress Aryans. Once again we are back to the fact that while this picture is whitewashed, everyone who cares knows exactly where it came from and what its original meaning is. That means it is no mistake when people who are anti-semites today repost, even if they change it to remove the most obvious caricature identifiers of Jews. I believe the term is "Dog whistle".

Actually it seems more based on artist "Mear One"'s work. Though a number of elements have been changed and people switched out.

From Wikipedia:

In September 2012, Mear One painted a temporary street mural in Hanbury Street, London, entitled Freedom for Humanity. It depicted suited men seated around a table, under an Eye of Providence, playing a Monopoly-like board game that rested on the backs of bent over naked figures, with a background of industry and protest.

A local councillor likened it to antisemitic propaganda in pre-war Germany, referencing what he saw as its stereotypical depictions of Jews, together with its reference to finance and the monetary and Masonic associations of the Eye of Providence. The Labour Mayor, Lutfur Rahman, said: “The images of the bankers perpetuate anti-Semitic propaganda about conspiratorial Jewish domination of financial and political institutions.”[7][8] Mear One said that those portrayed comprised both Jews and non-Jews and denied any antisemitic intent, and that his work raised questions of class.[9]

"I came to paint a mural that depicted the elite banker cartel known as the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Morgans, the ruling class elite few, the Wizards of Oz. They would be playing a board game of monopoly on the backs of the working class. The symbol of the Free Mason [sic] Pyramid rises behind this group and behind that is a polluted world of coal burning and nuclear reactors. I was creating this piece to inspire critical thought and spark conversation. A group of conservatives do not like my mural and are playing a race card with me. My mural is about class and privilege. The banker group is made up of Jewish and white Anglos. For some reason they are saying I am anti-semitic. This I am most definitely not... What I am against is class."[4]

Gethsemani, what is the original picture that this work is based on? You claim to know "exactly where it came from and what its original meaning is", so please, enlighten us.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

They were clones in the prequels. The working assumption was they were clones in the sequel trilogy too because it's mentioned more batches are being produced to meet need. Also it explains why they're all bad shots lol.

Why would the working assumption for Stormtroopers be that they went back to being clones after the Empire fell? And how would the automatic assumption of a black guy be "goddamned SJWs ruining everything" and not "guess a guy stole stormtrooper armor"?

You know, like what happens constantly. And would be a reasonable assumption for a long time fan to make even if they thought Stormtroopers were clones for some reason.

I dunno you might be surprised to see people do so. Also thing would likely be better if Gunn had said that lol. Jolt things up a bit and make people wake up to the bullshit a bit. But no the modern culture is all about the illusion of civility unfortunately. It's why the likes of Weinstein, Faraci and potentially even Whedon weren't talked about or unmasked sooner.

Just because you haven't matured in the last decade doesn't mean other people haven't. Do you really thing the house of mouse is gonna keep somebody on the payroll for their very popular family friendly superhero movies who's vocally defending making pedophilia jokes?
Are you honestly saying, with a straight face, that defending people making jokes about fucking kids makes it *more* likely that sexual predators and brought to justice?

Because I was Catholic in the 90s and early 00s. There were *lots* of jokes based on fucking kids. Guess what *didn't* happen.

 

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[Casual Shinji]

Johnny Rico from Starship Troopers was played by Casper Van Dien. Who is obviously not Filipino as he was detailed to be in the book.

Juan Rico (novel)

Juan "Johnnie" Rico is the main character and protagonist of the novel Starship Troopers. Juan Rico was the privileged (and only) son of a wealthy Filipino family living in the Terran Federation capital, Earth. Near the end of his senior year of high school Johnnie's best friend, Carl, decided...

starshiptroopers.fandom.com

Not to say that van Diem being a white boy wasn't very convenient, or that his features surely brought in an audience that might otherwise have not bothered (seriously, the guy looks like the most aryan wet dream), but I feel that's kinda part of the joke this movie pulls. Just as everyone else, certainly at the start, looks like the most 90's, American, white person plucked from whatever sitcom or soap opera, eventhough this takes place in South America. The movie is a big faux propaganda joke like that. One that tries to have its cake and eat it - it wants you to laugh and shake your head at it, but also to be invested in it as a hero's journey - but the satire of seeing Dougie Howser dressed as an SS officer was not an accident.

 

[Houseman]

I mean, it is almost as if you posted a Wikipedia link that said exactly what I said:

You said " while this picture is whitewashed, everyone who cares knows exactly where it came from and what its original meaning is. "

From that, I gathered that this picture was based off some other picture that was originally created to be Nazi propaganda.
Am I wrong? Was this picture based off Nazi propaganda or wasn't it?

Wikipedia just says that the picture was criticized for being anti-semitic. That's not the same as being A) Actuall anti-semitic or B) actually based off of Nazi propaganda.

Those are two very different claims.

I thank you for reinforcing my case for me. I'm not even going to bother trying to improve it since I know you won't engage in good faith any way.

That just looks like you're running away because you know you made a claim that you can't back up. You claimed it was based of Nazi propaganda, and that "everyone who cares knows exactly where it came from", but you can't even show us "exactly where it came from", so now you're using any excuse to leave.

Maybe don't brag next time and you won't paint yourself into a corner.

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

Why would the working assumption for Stormtroopers be that they went back to being clones after the Empire fell? And how would the automatic assumption of a black guy be "goddamned SJWs ruining everything" and not "guess a guy stole stormtrooper armor"?

1) Because people figured the Empire didn't fully fall due to 1 single victory.
2) Because it seemed somewhat clear he was one of them not an infiltrator as such?

Just because you haven't matured in the last decade doesn't mean other people haven't.

Yeh I have to disagree. I'm no longer quite the angry ball of rage disillusioned with the world I once was taking shots at whomever for just disagreeing with me. Now I only tend to really take those shots at smegheads who takes shots at me or others for no reason or petty reason.

Do you really thing the house of mouse is gonna keep somebody on the payroll for their very popular family friendly superhero movies who's vocally defending making pedophilia jokes?
Are you honestly saying, with a straight face, that defending people making jokes about fucking kids makes it *more* likely that sexual predators and brought to justice?

Because I was Catholic in the 90s and early 00s. There were *lots* of jokes based on fucking kids. Guess what *didn't* happen.

Humour can be a great way to allow things to be talked about and remove some of the stigma round topics especially dark humour.

You know what came from the jokes in the 90s and Early 00? People looking into this stuff and proper investigations (at least in the UK)