Gina Carano Fired From “The Mandalorian” Over “Abhorrent” Social Media Posts

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[TheMysteriousGX]

1) Because people figured the Empire didn't fully fall due to 1 single victory.
2) Because it seemed somewhat clear he was one of them not an infiltrator as such?

1) Except the Empire clearly and plainly didn't use clones, because if they did, there wouldn't be an imperial academy for Luke to want to join
2) the single shot in that teaser was him popping into frame on a desert planet, taking off his helmet, and breathing heavy. How is that clear?

Humour can be a great way to allow things to be talked about and remove some of the stigma round topics especially dark humour.

You know what came from the jokes in the 90s and Early 00? People looking into this stuff and proper investigations (at least in the UK)

Lol, that's why they waited until Jimmy Savile died to look into him.
When people joke about serious allegations, then people bringing up serious allegations sound like jokes. That's not the culture anymore, largely due to the "SJWs" you decry

 

[Houseman]

Everyone who has even the bare modicum of knowledge about Nazi propaganda knows a recurring theme was how Jewish bankers played with the savings of honest Aryans. You can play stupid all you like, but this is such a well known motif that having to back it up is silly. Just like how I won't bother to find sources when someone disputes that the Earth is a sphere.

That combined with your infamy for never being able to engage with any topic adjacent to this one in even a remotely honest or sincere fashion means it is all a giant waste of time. Whatever you think of me is utterly irrelevant to me, I've got better things to do with my time and I've already wasted too much of it writing this reply.

I'm just asking you to post the original artwork that Freedom for Humanity is based off of. You claimed "everyone who cares knows exactly where it came from and what its original meaning is", like this was some common-knowledge thing that a large number of people should know about.

But you can't do it.

So you have nothing, and your words are empty and useless.

And now you're running away and trying to save face with the sour-grapes routine of "well I have better things to do anyway so nyeah!"

Next time, I would suggest you don't make claims unless you are able and willing to back them up. It would save a whole lot of humiliation.

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

1) Except the Empire clearly and plainly didn't use clones, because if they did, there wouldn't be an imperial academy for Luke to want to join
2) the single shot in that teaser was him popping into frame on a desert planet, taking off his helmet, and breathing heavy. How is that clear?

1) The empire still needs officers and others academies don't only train combat soldiers.
2) Well he didn't seem to be there escaping initially.

Lol, that's why they waited until Jimmy Savile died to look into him.
When people joke about serious allegations, then people bringing up serious allegations sound like jokes. That's not the culture anymore, largely due to the "SJWs" you decry

Also it's largely not the culture due to some of the serious false allegations ruining lives or nearly doing so like the Rolling Stones reporting incident or even people unable to take a joke spreading it as fact.

Hell only a few years wasn't there a comedy show put on by survivors of such incidents in part because the jokes enabled conversations about serious topics to happen in their view?

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

1) The empire still needs officers and others academies don't only train combat soldiers.
2) Well he didn't seem to be there escaping initially.

1)You're right. Luke mentioned his friend being a pilot and decided to try for command staff.
2) He didn't seem to be anything besides out of breath and sweaty initially.

How much more absurd are you gonna try and make this? Like, your average viewer not putting two and two together when the last Star Wars movie they saw was Revenge of the Sith a decade prior is one thing, a self proclaimed lifelong fan is another.

So, to recap...where are you going with this? You're dead set on proving racists weren't mad at there being a black stormtrooper from the jump because? Besides pretending the stuff put in front of your eyeballs doesn't actually exist, you even lied about the content of a Wirked article *you linked to*.

Why?

Also it's largely not the culture due to some of the serious false allegations ruining lives or nearly doing so like the Rolling Stones reporting incident or even people unable to take a joke spreading it as fact.

...like exactly what happened to James Gunn? Who got rehired because people actually like him, saw through the bullshit that went viral due to Mike "I'm a serious conservative pundit who believes that your semen becomes addictive if you don't masturbate" Cernovich, and because Gunn didn't double down on by going to Europe to make movies with Roman Polanski?

Hell only a few years wasn't there a comedy show put on by survivors of such incidents in part because the jokes enabled conversations about serious topics to happen in their view?

I have no idea. That level of vagueness is impressive.

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

1)You're right. Luke mentioned his friend being a pilot and decided to try for command staff.
2) He didn't seem to be anything besides out of breath and sweaty initially.

How much more absurd are you gonna try and make this? Like, your average viewer not putting two and two together when the last Star Wars movie they saw was Revenge of the Sith a decade prior is one thing, a self proclaimed lifelong fan is another.

So, to recap...where are you going with this? You're dead set on proving racists weren't mad at there being a black stormtrooper from the jump because? Besides pretending the stuff put in front of your eyeballs doesn't actually exist, you even lied about the content of a Wirked article *you linked to*.

I dunno how much longer do we have to go on this tangent until you realise I already pointed out the actual abuse sent was bad and dropt this tangent as it's not the gotcha you thought it would be and instead try and explain how any of this is meant to justify the abuse Gina Carano received again? Because so far it's looking like "Some assholes were racist to other actors so it justifies people being abusive and making up lies about Gina Carano." Is that really the argument here?

Why?
...like exactly what happened to James Gunn? Who got rehired because people actually like him, saw through the bullshit that went viral due to Mike "I'm a serious conservative pundit who believes that your semen becomes addictive if you don't masturbate" Cernovich, and because Gunn didn't double down on by going to Europe to make movies with Roman Polanski?

I have no idea. That level of vagueness is impressive.

So you're arguing Gina Carano isn't liked?
Also are you trying to say Ben Shapiro is an Anti-Semite in by that comparison?

 

[Thaluikhain]

Random thing, when I start typing in giantitp to check out order of the stick, google naturally also gives me suggested searches beginning with "gi". Used to have Gigi Hadid there, but now she's been replaced by Gina Carano.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

I dunno how much longer do we have to go on this tangent until you realise I already pointed out the actual abuse sent was bad and dropt this tangent as it's not the gotcha you thought it would be and instead try and explain how any of this is meant to justify the abuse Gina Carano received again? Because so far it's looking like "Some assholes were racist to other actors so it justifies people being abusive and making up lies about Gina Carano." Is that really the argument here?

So if it didn't matter, why'd you start lying about it?

So you're arguing Gina Carano isn't liked?
Also are you trying to say Ben Shapiro is an Anti-Semite in by that comparison?

I'm saying he's a shameless rightwing grifter who'll back up anti-semites as long as they put up a thin veneer of obliviousness when they share his politics. Carano saying "screw you guys, I'm making movies with him" basically guarantees she's not coming back to Disney for the foreseeable future.
Don't get me wrong, she can make a decent living playing the "actually, it's the Christians who're oppressed" crowd like Cameron and Sorbo. That's her choice at this point.

 

[Cicada 5]

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[Dwarvenhobble]

So if it didn't matter, why'd you start lying about it?

I didn't.
So we moved on from ad hominem to making false claims about what people did now?

I'm saying he's a shameless rightwing grifter who'll back up anti-semites as long as they put up a thin veneer of obliviousness when they share his politics. Carano saying "screw you guys, I'm making movies with him" basically guarantees she's not coming back to Disney for the foreseeable future.
Don't get me wrong, she can make a decent living playing the "actually, it's the Christians who're oppressed" crowd like Cameron and Sorbo. That's her choice at this point.

yet James Gunn going to Disney's biggest rival wasn't a screw you?

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

 

[Hawki]

I’ve never watched the series or even care about Star Wars.

Oh you poor lost child.

Is it any good?

Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

Whatever you do, start with the OT, and then work your way from there.

Anyways, it’s getting really predictable with social media spelling the death knell for celebrities. When will they learn they can only whisper controversial statements to themselves? Maybe she really didn’t care.

I don't think social media spells the death knell for celebrities. But it's easier to be a celebrity if you stick to only vague, broadly approved comments.

Which is arguably true of society as a whole.

I posted a few examples of things one should not post for one's own safety. But, you cannot mention Jews in a post?

Well, TBH, I'm about to write about "the Jews," and just saying those two words together makes me uneasy, because I know where talking about "the Jews" has led some societies. I'm not just talking about the Holocaust, I'm talking about anti-semitism throughout history. Part of why criticism of Israel is so fraught, because on one hand, there's legitimate criticism, and on the other, many people who desire the country and its people to be destroyed.

I don't support a climate of fear, and I've noticed that over the last five years, anti-semitism has reared in the left as much as the right (via CRT, Jews are "invited into whiteness" and therefore fall into the 'oppressor' caste), but, yeah.

 

[Cicada 5]

Thing is we don't know and some of the Boycott stuff could have been people still just angry about Disney.

We absolutely do know because they said it as such. This boycott Star Wars crap was going on before anyone had even seen the movie and there are direct quotes from people calling Boyega's casting "white genocide".

 

[Cicada 5]

And yet
Falcon = No anger
War Machine = no anger other than at the recasting
Killjoys = No anger
Will Smith as Deadshot = no anger
Into the Spiderverse = no anger
Joe and Iris in the Flash = no anger
Iron Sky = no anger
Iron Sky 2 = no anger
Laser Team = no anger
Laser Team 2 = no anger
American Gods = no anger


So many times there's just no anger and people are fine with it but suddenly when there's a blow up people forget all the rest of the time or conveniently ignore them.

There absolutely was anger over Iris and Joe's casting. Anger which spilled over to harassing the actress who played Iris. She's been called racial slurs, been compared to a primate, accused of sleeping her way into getting her role etc. Also look up how ballistic fans got towards Anna Diop on Titans and Zendaya in the recent Spider-Man movies. Or just look at how often people ***** about "redhead erasure" when a black actor plays a character who was originally a white redhead yet say nothing about the times a white actor with brown, black or blonde hair played a redhead and didn't even bother to dye their hair. Anna Diop took more heat over her outfit than Charlie Cox did for refusing to dye his hair red because he felt it made him look silly. Almost none of the actors who played Jimmy Olsen were redheads but it was the black guy that drew the most outrage.

Citing the times when fans chose to behave themselves doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist. It may not happen every single time but it sure happens enough for it to be considered a problem.

 

[Agema]

There absolutely was anger over Iris and Joe's casting. Anger which spilled over to harassing the actress who played Iris. She's been called racial slurs, been compared to a primate, accused of sleeping her way into getting her role etc. Also look up how ballistic fans got towards Anna Diop on Titans and Zendaya in the recent Spider-Man movies. Or just look at how often people ***** about "redhead erasure" when a black actor plays a character who was originally a white redhead yet say nothing about the times a white actor with brown, black or blonde hair played a redhead and didn't even bother to dye their hair. Anna Diop took more heat over her outfit than Charlie Cox did for refusing to dye his hair red because he felt it made him look silly. Almost none of the actors who played Jimmy Olsen were redheads but it was the black guy that drew the most outrage.

Citing the times when fans chose to behave themselves doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist. It may not happen every single time but it sure happens enough for it to be considered a problem.

It very much seems to me that the real problem right-wingers have is not that creators aren't free to do as they please, it's that creators won't listen enough to right-wingers when the right wing wants to control what they create.

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

We absolutely do know because they said it as such. This boycott Star Wars crap was going on before anyone had even seen the movie and there are direct quotes from people calling Boyega's casting "white genocide".

Except you seem to be using those comments to represent the entire boycott.

Was the audience of Frozen II all violent thugs?

 

[Cicada 5]

Except you seem to be using those comments to represent the entire boycott.

Was the audience of Frozen II all violent thugs?

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The difference is that far more people who saw Frozen 2 did not engage in violence. Furthermore, the brawl that erupted actually had nothing to do with the movie itself as the article you screenshotted shows.

Those involved in the fight had just come out of a screening of Blue Story, a gang-themed film about two friends who turn against each other.

By contrast, nothing about the boycott TFA movement showed it as being motivated by anything other than racism. There are quotes from people involved in it calling Boyega's casting white genocide and absolutely nothing about being angry with Disney over anything else. There is no other explanation offered for why they had such a visceral reaction to one black guy's presence in the movie and confusion about him not being a clone does not explain any of this. This is all well documented.

 

[Eacaraxe]

Yet basically no-one had an issue with Samuel L Jackson and Mace Windu. What it comes down to more is bad writing from what I can tell.
Well outside of China where Disney shrank Finn's image on posters and it's alleged reduced down his film role to appeal to China more. Hell that's allegedly why he and Rose aren't together in Rise of Skywalker.

Rather funny Ahmed Best, and the backlash against and Jar-Jar, isn't entering the conversation here. I wonder why that might be.

CNN -- Jar Jar jars viewers, spawns criticism -- June 9, 1999

Besides being annoying, other aspects of Jar Jar's character proved particularly bothersome for some people.

"There was something about his demeanor that suggested blackness and that suggested, more specifically, stereotypical blackness," says Michael Dyson, professor of African-American studies at Columbia University.

The notion that Jar Jar Binks is an offensive stereotype has spread quickly on the Internet. Deja.com has seen over 80,000 messages posted about Jar Jar, some from outraged viewers deriding him as a "classic coon stereotype," "a combination pimp and Barney" or "the star of 'Sambo Wars.'"

The issue has even been raised in newspaper reviews. From The Globe And Mail: "Jar Jar has a loose-jointed amble of a black drag queen." The Wall Street Journal called the character, "a Rastafarian Stepin Fetchit." (Fetchit was the actor who critics say personified negative black stereotypes in the 1920s and '30s.)

The stereotype was obvious to Dyson.

"I think that I immediately knew that there were some stereotypical elements to this character that suggested black culture -- the way he spoke, the way he walked," Dyson recalls. "Even when he said 'meesa'... taken very quickly, it could be like "massa, massa."

Everybody loves talking about harassment, fan backlashes, and "fandom toxicity", until the rubber hits the road and it was people upset over perceived racial stereotyping that nearly drove Best to suicide way back in the day.

Meanwhile you got Boyega and Finn over here, same motherfuckers defending how Disney reduced his character and character arc into an actual "Uncle Tomfoolery" trope over the course of the trilogy.

 

[Cicada 5]

Rather funny Ahmed Best, and the backlash against and Jar-Jar, isn't entering the conversation here. I wonder why that might be.

CNN -- Jar Jar jars viewers, spawns criticism -- June 9, 1999

Everybody loves talking about harassment, fan backlashes, and "fandom toxicity", until the rubber hits the road and it was people upset over perceived racial stereotyping that nearly drove Best to suicide way back in the day.

Meanwhile you got Boyega and Finn over here, same motherfuckers defending how Disney reduced his character and character arc into an actual "Uncle Tomfoolery" trope over the course of the trilogy.

The treatment Best was subjected to has been covered and condemned in recent years. In fact, it's cited as one of the earliest examples of how vicious fans can be.

Also, no one is defending what was done to Finn in Rise of Skywalker.

 

[ObsidianJones]

*snippage*

I can't defend or speak about Disney reaction to the tweet because I do not know what is offensive about it. I've asked because I read the tweet in a way that she's saying that Nazis encouraged tribalism to help people betray the Jews. Which they did. I'll look at it again, maybe I missed something.

But I can support Disney's reaction when they backed Kelly Marie Tran, Daisy Ridley, and John Boyega because what was said about them was NOT defensible. We're talking about how the responded to the racists. That's all we're talking about. You can make it about people who didn't like the movies. That's a defense of a topic we're not discussing. We are discussing despicable comments made by toxic fringes. I mean, I can point out all the people who probably supported Gina's claims.

And there are a lot.

Conservatives Outraged by Gina Carano Firing, Urge People to Cancel Disney+

The firing of Gina Carano from "The Mandalorian" has caused outrage among conservatives who are condemning cancel culture and calling on people to cancel their Disney+ subscriptions.

www.newsweek.com

But if I addressed their outage that this is happening to Gina, how they are saying they should cancel Disney Plus... I can easily turn it as "Hey, it can't be that bad. Look at all these people who are for Gina. So I don't know how widespread the push was against Carano".

Hell, here's the BoycottStarWars in favor for Gina.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/boycottstarwars?lang=en

Many them, seemingly so bothered by the Intolerant Left that they can't tolerate an action so they boycott... but then want the Left to tolerate things that they find outrageous... seems a bit uneven.

Anyway, the point being that I'm now officially seeing more support for Gina than I did against Gina. So, do I get to question the movement now?

I wouldn't. If it was truly unfair against Gina (which I still don't know because I haven't see what was offensive yet), and even if it was just a minority, I would not stand for it. Nor would I think anyone here would stand for Gina being dogpiled on if they thought what she said was innocent. Again, I can't speak for them given that I'm still confused about the tweet, but it seems like the tweet actually was offensive to them. So I think they are within their right if it's offensive to them. As offensiveness is subjective.

Oh, and the actor who played Jar Jar Brinks was told to kill himself for a better part of a couple of years.

Actor Who Played Jar Jar Binks Reveals Backlash Caused Him to Consider Taking His Own Life

20 years later, Ahmed Best admitted that the backlash he felt after portraying Jar Jar Binks in the Star Wars prequels led him to consider taking his life

people.com

Last July, Best spoke out about how he found his way through the public’s adverse reaction to Jar Jar.
Many had criticized the character for being too cartoony, slamming Star Wars creator George Lucas for inserting him in the story just to sell toys. Sites like JarJarMustDie.com were launched, while fan forums spent years mocking the character.
At the time, Best was just 25. “I had death threats through the internet,” he told Wired. “I had people come to me and say, ‘You destroyed my childhood.’ That’s difficult for a 25-year-old to hear.”
“There were a lot of tears, there was a lot of pain, there was a lot of s— I had to deal with,” Best added. “Everybody else went on. Everybody else worked. Everybody else was accepted by the zeitgeist.”

And let's not forget Jake Lloyd, the actor who played kid Anakin.

Jake Lloyd on how Star Wars: The Phantom Menace ended his acting career

Jake Lloyd, the actor who played Anakin Skywalker in Star Wars: The Phantom Menace, reveals why he no longer acts.

www.denofgeek.com

He was eight years old when he played Anakin in the film, but in an interview with Blackbook, he revealed that the role pretty much ruined his childhood. “Other children were really mean to me,” he said. “They would make the sound of the lightsaber every time they saw me. It was totally mad.” Furthermore, the article reports that Lloyd “was so upset by the filming process and the subsequent blowback that he decided he would never act again.”

And, with the exception of one role over a decade ago, he hasn’t. At most, he attends the odd sci-fi convention, the article reports, but that’s as far as he goes.
He’s rarely talked about his experiences on The Phantom Menace and, now in his 20s, it’s only recently he’s opened up about how tough the aftermath of the film was. “I’ve learned to hate it when the cameras are pointed at me,” he revealed.
It’s hard not to have some sympathy with Lloyd. He was the centerpoint of a massively criticized film, and took a lot of flack as a consequence of that. But can you blame him? Not really. He wasn’t even in his teens, and to hear him talk about how his school life became a “living hell” as a result of the film seems really quite sad.

People in any group suck. They'll suck to a conservative (if she is even that) MMA fighter, a black guy who's just lending his voice to a character and following direction, or a simple kid. To pretend it has to do because of whatever affiliation they choose to follow is folly. Because I'm sure if I found those racists from the first BoycottStarWars due to Finn being black, you would consider it a consequence if they were all Republican or conservatives. So to act like the fact that many of those people who bashed and trashed Gina were Lefties actually means something more insidious is simply disingenuous.