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XsjadoBlayde

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anyone not aware of current day relationships between the American reactionary RW admin/punditry and white south Africa would perhaps find some alarming, yet unsurprising info summarised in a bit of audio;


At the end of this miniseries about white supremacist terrorism in the final years of apartheid in South Africa, this episode returns to the present day as white South Africans are lining up outside the embassy in Pretoria to claim refugee status under Trump's executive order.

Sources:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us-fo...-south-africans-seek-resettlement-2025-04-24/

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ikaner-donald-trump-america-us-administration

https://www.dw.com/en/us-diplomat-ejected-from-new-zealand-after-mysterious-incident/a-38016563

https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parlia...earch/FlagPost/2022/May/diplomatic-expulsions

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/may/24/australia-expels-israeli-diplomat

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59023465

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/06/world/americas/06ecuador.html

https://foreignpolicy.com/2012/05/29/so-how-do-you-expel-an-ambassador-anyway/

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presiden...ious-actions-of-the-republic-of-south-africa/

https://rollcall.com/factbase/trump/topic/social/

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/pool-reports-february-2-2025

https://rollcall.com/factbase/trump...ter-air-force-one-arrival-february-2-2025/#15

https://rollcall.com/factbase/trump/topic/calendar/

https://www.reuters.com/world/afric...e-group-treason-over-trump-attack-2025-02-10/

https://www.enca.com/news-top-stories/ramaphosa-slams-afriforum-solidarity

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2025-02-13-apartheid-stratcom-agents-trump-edwin-feulner/

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/...uth-africa-whites-only-town-orania-is-booming

https://www.reuters.com/world/afric...sts-want-trumps-help-become-state-2025-04-03/

https://laist.com/news/food/milky-way-kosher-restaurant-reopens-steven-spielbergs-mom-la-legendary

https://iol.co.za/news/politics/202...-vows-to-block-white-supremacist-appointment/

https://www.biznews.com/interviews/2025/02/27/us-ramaphosa-financial-sanction-anc-joel-pollak

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/art...e-even-more-conservative-than-me-joel-pollak/

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/23/africa/south-african-ambassador-ebrahim-rasool-intl/index.html

https://mistra.org.za/wp-content/up...dministration-for-South-Africa-and-Africa.pdf

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2025-03-18-rasool-diplomacy-and-global-power/

https://www.sajr.co.za/rasools-expulsion-a-crisis-not-a-hiccup/

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/...frica-actively-opposed-fight-to-end-apartheid

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1987/07/14/Foundation-unveils-Contra-commercials/1746553233600/

https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/so...-solidarity-movement-to-live-out-his-calling/

https://za.usembassy.gov/u-s-refugee-admissions-program-faqs/

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/30/us/politics/trump-south-africa-white-afrikaners-refugee.html
if there was any doubt Jordan Peterson is an all out racist fascist propaganda laundering kunt before, then would like to think seeing his choice of who he excitedly agrees with and encourages in his interviews lately should make it it crystal fucking clear


those are all features, not bugs
 
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What you are talking about at the top is also a problem, don't get me wrong. It's also not the same

Spoils is were you basically buy people out so they never disagree with your decision. In particular, no one can be seen as smarter than the leader. Thats why Trump attacks experts and anyone who disagrees with him. As stated, the US got rid of it over a hundred years ago. Some other examples is Saddam, Putin and Gaddifi. They call it the Oligarchy under Putin

You're example is like networking. There is a possibility of merit based hirings but it's not definite. I would agree that DEI has a similar problem. But merit under Spoils/Oligarchy is seen as a bad thing.

I think you picked the wrong president as your example. Obama definitely picked a lot of conservatives. He didn't picked reactionaries (those that would end up being called MAGA) or many left wing people
Hiring is done about the same everywhere, it's has percentages of all those aspects (good and bad). I'm sure it is worse in politics than a normal company because it's politics and as Frank Reynolds puts it "That's politics, b!tch!" To think Trump is completely different than the last guy is ridiculous and hyperbole. There was a story run about how Trump fired a bunch of executive government employees but the story failed to mention that Biden did the same thing when he became president. It's both bad and good because it can be seen as stuffing the offices with all your people but at the same time if you have the rest of the executive branch purposefully working against you, you can't get anything done either (hence why every president does it). It's like when a sports team hires a new head coach/manager and that guy fires all the other coaches and hires his guys, that's just something that has to be done for the team to be on the same page and run effectively.

Of the 13 appeals courts, nine now have a majority of Democratic appointees, compared with one when Obama took office, according to research carried out by Russell Wheeler, a scholar at the Brookings Institution, a Washington think tank.

If your position was "prices won't go up for this TV", then why did you state it as "there won't be blanket tariffs"?

Because the claim you actually made about tariffs has completely fallen apart, but you seem to be trying to rebut that by reasserting some irrelevant waffle about a television price.
And my first post was about prices because that's what I care about. Why'd you'd claim that butter is less healthy than seed oils?
 

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And my first post was about prices because that's what I care about.
And then you made lots of other claims, such as that there won't be any blanket tariffs.

And you asked us to tell you when they happened.

Then they happened, and we told you, as you had requested. And now you're whining that we did what you asked.
 
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And then you made lots of other claims, such as that there won't be any blanket tariffs.

And you asked us to tell you when they happened.

Then they happened, and we told you, as you had requested. And now you're whining that we did what you asked.
Because that's all he ever does. It's goal hosting within goal posting within gold posting within goal posting. Because he don't have shit nor knows shit. Phoenixmgs knows this, but rather bite his tongue than admit. Just like almost any other Trump supporter, an addict, or those claiming to be "neutral/center to the right" (but not really!).

It shouldn't have took you this long to figure it out./sarcasm
 

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If you think that there is a potential danger down the line that could arise naturally from a sense of uncaring lawlessness, and pushing back on this particular case will help prevent future misdeeds, that's reasonable.
Any erosion of privacy rights and those of the accused is inevitably abused by law enforcement. That is how this works.

So far we have the Trump admin arguing:

1. People accused of being illegal immigrants can be deported with essentially no process. Likewise for being associated with a group the Trump admin declares it should be applied to, with membership decided by basically law enforcement fiat (since there is essentially no due process there is no opportunity for defense).
2. If the government ships you off to a foreign prison fast enough (read as if the plane is outside US airspace by the time it's made it through the court), you are no longer in their jurisdiction and thus are not subject to due process and cannot be returned.
3. 2 should be applied to "homegrown" alleged criminals.
4. ICE should be allowed to enter private residences without warrant if they believe an illegal immigrant is present.
5. The power described in 4 can be granted to local, state and federal law enforcement if essentially deputized by ICE to assist with immigration enforcement.

What is the result of all these things being put together and abused in the single most straightforward form possible? Do you think that the Trump admin isn't thinking that far ahead? Is this incompetence or slowly assembling the machinery for malevolence in order to justify each brick in a vacuum?

The alt-right section of the Last of Us fandom's obsession with Bella Ramsey is almost as ludicrous as the hate for Rachel Zegler.
Eh, I think the actress they got for Abby looks the part for Ellie much more than the actress they got for Ellie, FWIW. I also find it funny that they're toning way back on how buff Abby is compared to the game.

I don't know why anyone is surprised, the short version is anything bad is Biden's fault (or Obama's) and anything good is Trump's fault. The specific line I've been using with MAGA folks has been "Whether it's good or bad, however it is and what direction it appears to be moving in 2026 and 2028 is entirely the fault of Trump and MAGA, for good or ill. They controll all three branches of government - there's no one else to blame it on. Vote accordingly." This of course assumes there will be a free and fair election in '26 and '28.

and no more screwing around from the Trump administration
This part, right here, seems painfully unlikely.
 
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Well, I maintain that various nations could harm the US directly, it's just fear of reprisal (or being tied to the US economy) that prevents them. But yeah, the easy solution is for the US to be making friends, not enemies. Though, better than having skilled diplomats et al to try and improve attitudes towards the US would be getting rid of the angry monkeys currently in charge that others find off putting. I can't remember the exact quote, but in the North Africa campaign in WW2, it was stressed that a stupid soldier could cause more ill-will in their allies than a clever soldier could fix.
It may be too far gone for that.