Funny events in anti-woke world

[Chimpzy]

French prosecutors seek charges against Elon Musk and X over child sexual abuse images

French prosecutors are seeking charges against Elon Musk and X for child sexual images on the platform, deepfakes, disinformation and complicity in denying crimes against humanity by Grok.

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Musk thing about to do a reverse Polanski

 

[Silvanus]

now that the goal has been accomplished and Syria is ruled by israel-friendly Islamists, we can start to talk about how an OPCW investigation-- and the media circus produced about that investigation-- was directed to serve political objectives rather than any genuine desire to discover the truth.

Enormously deceptive rundown of events in that blog there.

The OPCW confirmed it excluded the conversation between two investigators (that later leaked, and on which Mate reported). Yet that conversation itself is hardly a smoking gun: those speaking weren't actually present or involved in the most recent part of the investigation itself. They're not particularly knowledgeable parties, its essentially opinion.

Mate has a track record of obscuring or whitewashing ethnic cleansing, so let's not give him the oxygen.

 

[XsjadoBlaydette]

Am really tempted to try and start a conspiracy theory that Peterson's daughter has been intentionally keeping her father ill for god know what various reasons a wealthy over-priviliged upbringing does to a mind. It's been swimming in my head every since she started saying he was being attacked by demons all while nobody seems able to ever see him lol. I say this only now cos have heard similar musings from other places, organically. Meaning this may have legs hehe! And what harm would it cause really?

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"What harm would it cause really?"

*Foward flash to far future where pro JP daughter clan launches the first planet-shattering mega-nuke against pro Dr JP/anti daughter clan at height of escalating international tensions amidst constant violence for shrinking share of resources*

 

[Chimpzy]

Virginia Supreme Court strikes down Democrats' redrawn US House maps, giving Republicans a win

The Virginia Supreme Court has struck down a Democratic congressional redistricting plan that had won voter approval.

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Voters narrowly approved the amendment April 21, but the court’s ruling renders the results of that vote meaningless.

Phew, bullet dodged

 

[Bedinsis]

The reason Britain pays like the highest price for energy among peers is because of horrible Labour policy. You hate tariffs right? Well Labour self-imposed tariffs on Britain by moving a lot of manufacturing (and jobs) out of Britain to reduce carbon emissions. However, people still want/need these things so now those things are being made in other countries with dirtier energy than Britain so the green Labour policies are causing more carbon to be emitted, not less. And Labour policy made it so stuff made with dirty energy is taxed so it's essentially a self-imposed tariff. This is why people don't like stupid ass left policies, it's because they don't fucking work.

I actually found out where the point was brought up on my own by watching the full video. Even before watching it though I still thought your reasoning was flawed, and while I think you made some mischaracterizations it was close enough that my counter-reasoning still held.
First of all they didn't mention that it was Labour policy. It might have been but the picture I've gotten is that all parties are trend chasers so pursuing a greener future could've come from any party at some point.
Second of all, they didn't self-impose tariff by moving manufatcturing abroad. They enacted higher taxes on carbon-emitting electricity which made local manufacturing be outcompeted by imported manufacturing.
Finally, and here's we get to my actual reasoning: this is politics in action, where policies are adjusted as loopholes are discovered.
Politician: "We want to reduce carbon emission! Let's tax carbon.emitting electricity. ...oh, people are importing carbon-emitting foreign manfacture. Let's enact tariffs against those products."
Meaning the UK can start up manufacturing anew, since the financial benefit from using imports using fossil fuel has been accounted for. They say that it increases inflation which I thought was a given: putting higher demands on products tend to do that. It probably was expensive to stop using asbestos as fire retardant and freons for refrigerators but it was worth it for the benefits provided.

Regarding the rest of the video: I am uncertain if you primarily posted it to answer Agema's claim on the economics of electricity (who also claimed that the policies were proposed, not enacted, so maybe my reasoning above is based on nothing) but I found the first part interesting. About how solar power being unsafe causing the blackout in Iberia and 11 dead people and a conventional source being required for a stable alternate current. I however file that under the headline of "there are hiccups when adapting new technologies", i.e. these are problems that can be solved. Though those 11 dead are unfortunate.

Then they talked far too much about prices and politics which I didn't much give a toss about.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

I actually found out where the point was brought up on my own by watching the full video. Even before watching it though I still thought your reasoning was flawed, and while I think you made some mischaracterizations it was close enough that my counter-reasoning still held.
First of all they didn't mention that it was Labour policy. It might have been but the picture I've gotten is that all parties are trend chasers so pursuing a greener future could've come from any party at some point.
Second of all, they didn't self-impose tariff by moving manufatcturing abroad. They enacted higher taxes on carbon-emitting electricity which made local manufacturing be outcompeted by imported manufacturing.
Finally, and here's we get to my actual reasoning: this is politics in action, where policies are adjusted as loopholes are discovered.
Politician: "We want to reduce carbon emission! Let's tax carbon.emitting electricity. ...oh, people are importing carbon-emitting foreign manfacture. Let's enact tariffs against those products."
Meaning the UK can start up manufacturing anew, since the financial benefit from using imports using fossil fuel has been accounted for. They say that it increases inflation which I thought was a given: putting higher demands on products tend to do that. It probably was expensive to stop using asbestos as fire retardant and freons for refrigerators but it was worth it for the benefits provided.

Regarding the rest of the video: I am uncertain if you primarily posted it to answer Agema's claim on the economics of electricity (who also claimed that the policies were proposed, not enacted, so maybe my reasoning above is based on nothing) but I found the first part interesting. About how solar power being unsafe causing the blackout in Iberia and 11 dead people and a conventional source being required for a stable alternate current. I however file that under the headline of "there are hiccups when adapting new technologies", i.e. these are problems that can be solved. Though those 11 dead are unfortunate.

Then they talked far too much about prices and politics which I didn't much give a toss about.

-At 46:23, she mentions Labour polices.
-My analysis was that it's essentially a self-imposed tariff (because it essentially is), not her. If they up the price of local manufacturing (which you said they did), which causes imported manufacturing to out-compete local (which you said), then they tax imported manufacturing (which they are planning on doing), how is that not essentially a self-imposed tariff on yourself?
-UK policies aren't really helping the world because even if the UK becomes 100% green, it really doesn't matter to climate change.

The problem with the newer energy sources like solar and wind is that they don't mesh well with the current power grid (I believe that was in this video IIRC, I did listen to it months ago). The thing is you can use nuclear energy that is even greener than solar and meshes perfectly with the current electric system. There's a super obvious easy answer to green electricity and that is nuclear power, but the discussion is always about stuff like wind/solar/etc vs fossil fuels.

 

[Silvanus]

The problem with the newer energy sources like solar and wind is that they don't mesh well with the current power grid

What the hell does that mean, "don't mesh well"? That's the kind of woolly, meaningless non-statement people make when they want their objection to sound pragmatic and sensible but its just insubstantial waffle.

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The earth has access to several near-inexhaustible, essentially harmless methods of energy generation: solar, wind, tidal. Meanwhile, some corporations (and some petrostates) make hundreds of millions from burning gas and coal and oil and selling that energy instead. This method relies on a limited supply; leaves most of the country dependent on a handful of brutal dictatorships that control that supply; and poisons the fucking planet, the water and the air we breath, kills our children and shortens our lives. But its lucrative for those corps. So they manufacture bullshit propaganda to smear the clear, clean, obviously preferable alternatives.

 

[Chimpzy]

@Silvanus, @Agema, @XsjadoBlaydette, so it appears the local elections in your neck of the wood have gone rather swimmingly. Any thoughts?

 

[Bedinsis]

-At 46:23, she mentions Labour polices.

My bad, I missed that.

-My analysis was that it's essentially a self-imposed tariff (because it essentially is), not her. If they up the price of local manufacturing (which you said they did), which causes imported manufacturing to out-compete local (which you said), then they tax imported manufacturing (which they are planning on doing), how is that not essentially a self-imposed tariff on yourself?

Honestly, I got hung up on you stating that they "moved manufacturing abroad" as if that was the policy and not the outcome of the policy.

-UK policies aren't really helping the world because even if the UK becomes 100% green, it really doesn't matter to climate change.

If they manage a lot of other countries have a roadmap to reach net zero.

What the hell does that mean, "don't mesh well"? That's the kind of woolly, meaningless non-statement people make when they want their objection to sound pragmatic and sensible but its just insubstantial waffle.

It was discussed extenisvely in the video. Solar and Wind produces direct current and the infrastructure is built for alternating current, and the intermittence of the energy leads to instability in the system, which caused a blackout in Spain.

 

[XsjadoBlaydette]

A message to the comet playing hard to get behind the sun: - Look, we didn't get off on the right foot, I understand that. I said things I regret, you probably said things you regret in the stifled vacuum of space too. That's all old shit, under bridge and out to sea. Living is about growth, learning and overcoming our mistakes to be better for those around us, and I just want you to know it's a full clean slate moving on, there will always be a place for you here if you change your mind, ok? The best of luck on your travels, I know you will make a very lucky planet so proud and happy whenever you discover them. Keep on keeping on.

 

[Seanchaidh]

Enormously deceptive rundown of events in that blog there.

The OPCW confirmed it excluded the conversation between two investigators (that later leaked, and on which Mate reported). Yet that conversation itself is hardly a smoking gun: those speaking weren't actually present or involved in the most recent part of the investigation itself. They're not particularly knowledgeable parties, its essentially opinion.

Mate has a track record of obscuring or whitewashing ethnic cleansing, so let's not give him the oxygen.

according to your favorite US regime propaganda laundry or..?

 

[Gergar12]

Virginia Supreme Court rejects Democrats' redistricting plan, throws out election

The state’s highest court has overruled the will of Virginia’s voters after the election had already taken place.

www.democracydocket.com

Abortion in Romania - Wikipedia

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Romania: Dangerous Rollback of Reproductive Rights

The sexual and reproductive health and rights of women and girls, including the right to abortion and family planning methods, have been significantly eroded in Romania, Human Rights Watch said in a report released today.

www.hrw.org

These idiotic judges are going to give us 50 years of Party of Socialism and Liberation or similar rule thanks to the blowback from crap like this. For every conservative gen-z that's the future your conservative reps are giving the rest of America. Mamdani is going to be a moderate compared to who we will get in the future.

 

[Agema]

About how solar power being unsafe causing the blackout in Iberia and 11 dead people and a conventional source being required for a stable alternate current.

28 April 2025 Blackout

www.entsoe.eu

There's a whole investigation carried out into the Iberian blackout, and we can read the preliminary conclusions. It identified a range of problems with energy management in the Iberian grid. One might well argue that renewables make it harder to control the grid, but that's very different from "unsafe". This demands we ask the question why this podcast is pursuing that line, especially well before the investigation was completed. Renewables provide a very substantial proportion of energy generation in many places, and we really do not hear stories about constant network failures. This appears to have been an exceptional event.

We've seen this playbook before, for instance in Texas, 2021. This blackout also was a complex series of failures in the system, the biggest in natural gas energy generation. The right leapt out of its seat to blame renewables there as well. The general conclusion seems to be that their power generation systems weren't sufficiently weather-proofed across the board, leading to multiple failures.

Next, 11 deaths is bad: but that's far from the only angle we need to consider. For instance, cold weather kills, with 10% in the UK due to fuel poverty, or ~6,000 deaths every year. Affordable energy matters.

 

[Agema]

@Silvanus, @Agema, @XsjadoBlaydette, so it appears the local elections in your neck of the wood have gone rather swimmingly. Any thoughts?

My take is that it is bad, but not as bad as it may appear.

What's really happened is that Reform is mostly cannibalising and replacing the Conservative Party. The Conservative vote had collapsed a few years ago, and this is mostly those homeless right-wing voters coalescing back together, but under Reform instead. Much is made of Labour collapsing in one-time strongholds, but it already was collapsing: much of the "Red Wall" was demolished by the Tories in 2019. It's just now the right-wing baton has passed to Reform who are, at least for the moment, more attractive to poorer voters than the Tories. So this is just long-term trends playing out as expected, with the right-wing in transition from old party to new.

Reform are a deeply unstable party. The leadership are grotesque, corrupt, right-wing, small-medium businessman grifters out to feather their own nests, bankrolled by corrupt and grotesque billionaires. In the long run, they are doomed to lose their support in the poorer, working class heartlands because they will never deliver social and economic benefits to them. They can string the poor along with crass nationalism, social conservatism and play-acting the common man, but that will be seen through eventually. (Of course, this instability may ultimately kill the party, allowing the Tories to come back.)

Reform will also become victims of their own success. Local government is fucked: it has no money and no power - that's all been centralised in Westminster. These guys are inexperienced and clueless. They're going to spend ages trying to work out how to even do anything. And when they finally get their house in order, they'll find out that loads of stuff they want to get rid of is a legal obligation they can't get rid of. Or that the public will go beserk if they try to scrap it. There are no cuts, no savings, no reductions in local taxes, and if they do want to spend on anything new, no money for that either. The public will realise "Shit, these dudes are just like the last dudes, except more racist". Admittedly, for some voters, more racist is a plus, but overall, enthusiasm will wane (and in fact, this is already playing out in councils Reform took control of last time). The downside is that once they in power, it helps them gain insider knowledge and develop systems which makes it easier for them to maintain their position longer-term.

 

[Silvanus]

It was discussed extenisvely in the video. Solar and Wind produces direct current and the infrastructure is built for alternating current, and the intermittence of the energy leads to instability in the system, which caused a blackout in Spain.

DC can be converted to AC.

The intermittance can be compensated for with even small reserves. Issues caused by the intermittance of renewables are dwarfed by blackouts and supply issues derived from fossil fuel supply chains.

 

[Silvanus]

according to your favorite US regime propaganda laundry or..?

Oh, I've checked the words coming straight from the horse's mouth.

He's a whitewasher for ethnic violence.

 

[Bedinsis]

Next, 11 deaths is bad: but that's far from the only angle we need to consider. For instance, cold weather kills, with 10% in the UK due to fuel poverty, or ~6,000 deaths every year. Affordable energy matters.

They did cover that very angle, of how bad a similar blackout would be in the UK if happening in December. And they most certainly talked about making electricity affordable for Britons.

They also talked a fair bit about "following the science" with them claiming that renewables are neither safe nor cheap, which I don't know if it has been claimed by British politicians but if so they are at least making an argument against it, whether it holds water or not. Personally I found the lack of focus on the need to limit carbon emissions in the first half to be a severe miss, but they did mention it in the section about offshoring.

I'm uncertain what your point was... unless your basic point is that renewables is the most affordable alternative ergo those 11 lives should stand against the affordability that renewables offer. Which I don't know if it is true but the podcast argued that it wasn't.

 

[Silvanus]

@Silvanus, @Agema, @XsjadoBlaydette, so it appears the local elections in your neck of the wood have gone rather swimmingly. Any thoughts?

Pretty bad, but local elections are often not representative of how a general election will play out.

Labour lost more votes to the Greens than to Reform. Hopefully that will be a wakeup call that tacking right is self-defeating. They can no longer assume left-wing voters have nowhere else to go, and take them for granted.

With how pluralistic the election has been, its probably the clearest indicator yet that FPTP is obviously deeply unfit for purpose.

I'm at least happy to see Plaid has beaten Reform handily in Wales. Not only does that blunt Reform's momentum, it also delivers Labour a message that it progressivism can do so.

My hopes are that Reform-run councils will receive a reality check. Just like the couple of 'flagship' councils they had before: they can't just cut taxes and services and everything be fine. They'll fail, and their failure will paint the national party. And meanwhile Labour learns that it cannot take its progressive base for granted anymore.

 

[Chimpzy]

These idiotic judges are going to give us 50 years of Party of Socialism and Liberation or similar rule thanks to the blowback from crap like this. For every conservative gen-z that's the future your conservative reps are giving the rest of America. Mamdani is going to be a moderate compared to who we will get in the future.

I wouldn't worry. In the infinitesimal chance your ludicrous scenario comes to pass, and the US populace somehow choose to go those political paths, the ones who matter and the party that represents them will end democracy to save you from yourselves.

 

[Seanchaidh]

Oh, I've checked the words coming straight from the horse's mouth.

He's a whitewasher for ethnic violence.

That's not an argument against his analysis, and also-- if true-- not a particular distinction among the sources you get your information from.