Funny Events of the "Woke" world

[Hades]

I feel like there's a fun contrast with a couple current events right now, with the World Cup going on and there being story after story and video after video of travelers gushing over American food and hospitality, particularly those visiting the more rural states (not to make it partisan, like the Algerian team being "adopted" by Lawrence Kansas is not a Republican thing, that is a blue area, but it is a small city in the middle of rural America, so not a common travel experience). It's like watching years of liberal Americans whine online about America just wash away.

And then, at the same time, we have this: https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/man-charged-grant-park-cross-burning-first-court-appearance/

First generation American anti-capitalist desperate to tie all bigotry to capitalism finds alarming lack of hate symbols, so he lights up a burning cross for himself in Chicago, and is surprised to find people accusing him of racism and charging him for a hate crime. Remember everyone, if capitalist America doesn't have enough hate symbols to justify overthrowing it and replacing it with communism, you should make the hate symbols yourself, and if people think that's hateful, just tell them it was for the greater good of destroying capitalism! That's already a sort of sad-funny to me, the college-aged leftist that is deliberately trying to make the world look more like the nightmare fantasy that justifies his desired revolution. But that one guy getting charged for making faux hate crimes sitting against the backdrop of millions of international travelers experiencing joy and friendship with equally millions of Americans is quite the image.

Well good to see Americans are good enough host minus the occasional referee kicked out of the country. It certainly can’t be said Americans aren’t friendly. The various expats are nothing but nice. But even the very picture of of the American redneck were very friendly when meeting them in London. Very friendly.

Wouldn’t put too much into it though. Smiles mean little when people hide a dagger behind their back.

If Americans are friendly to Ukrainians it means nothing compared to them voting for a freak who HATES them and conspires with Russia against them. If they are friendly to Africans it means nothing if they cheerfully voted for the doge funded starvations and if they are friendly to Europeans it means nothing if those ingrates vote for complete freaks who hate us and want to do us harm. Friendly or not they still betrayed us.

 

[tstorm823]

Friendly to Europeans it means nothing if those ingrates vote for complete freaks who hate us and want to do us harm. Friendly or not they still betrayed us.

They don't hate you, they are critical of your governments. You are far, far more critical of my government than JD Vance is of yours, do you hate Americans?

 

[Hades]

They don't hate you, they are critical of your governments. You are far, far more critical of my government than JD Vance is of yours, do you hate Americans?

Aspiring to steal Greenland or collude with the Russians is beyond merely being critical. And considering the current freaks in the White House adore the barbaric system of Russia , and seek to empower Europe's far right or even fascistic parties it is not convincing that they genuinely think we are poorly governed. In fact their problem might be that we are too well governed as it cast doubts on some myths they feed their domestic audience , and puts limits on their ghoulish corporate backers.

They do in fact hate us for being rule based democracies rather than aspiring , veiled or open autocracies. Trump is not even shy about it.

If I ever advocate Europe should steal Texas and betray the US to the Chinese you may be free to put me on Vance's level. And should Europe even go that route it would be a response to America's treason rather than the unprovoked hostility from the filth in the White House.

The average citizens might indeed not hate us at all. But considering the Republican half still endorses the people that do hate us and want to harm us that is not going to cut it. Indifference to their leaders promoting harm against us is offensive no matter how understanding it is that they view foreign policy with less interest.

 

[tstorm823]

Aspiring to steal Greenland or collude with the Russians is beyond merely being critical. And considering the current freaks in the White House adore the barbaric system of Russia , and seek to empower Europe's far right or even fascistic parties it is not convincing that they genuinely think we are poorly governed. In fact their problem might be that we are too well governed as it cast doubts on some myths they feed their domestic audience , and puts limits on their ghoulish corporate backers.

They do in fact hate us for being rule based democracies rather than aspiring , veiled or open autocracies. Trump is not even shy about it.

If I ever advocate Europe should steal Texas and betray the US to the Chinese you may be free to put me on Vance's level. And should Europe even go that route it would be a response to America's treason rather than the unprovoked hostility from the filth in the White House.

The average citizens might indeed not hate us at all. But considering the Republican half still endorses the people that do hate us and want to harm us that is not going to cut it. Indifference to their leaders promoting harm against us is offensive no matter how understanding it is that they view foreign policy with less interest.

Oh, sorry, I forgot you live in a nightmare fantasy of your own creation for a moment.

 

[Hades]

Oh, sorry, I forgot you live in a nightmare fantasy of your own creation for a moment.

So you live in a fantasy land where Trump never talked about Greenland or where he does not treat European leaders for contempt while adoring autocrats? Or has official government papers writing about ''resisting europe's course'' and promoting far right parties? Sorry I forgot that you live in such a land.

Or you're just a liar. Trump and his cronies do not even hide it much so why would you?

 

[tstorm823]

So you live in a fantasy land where Trump never talked about Greenland or where he does not treat European leaders for contempt while adoring autocrats? Or has official government papers writing about ''resisting europe's course'' and promoting far right parties? Sorry I forgot that you live in such a land.

Or you're just a liar. Trump and his cronies do not even hide it much so why would you?

Oh, so now it's back to ways they are critical of your governments? I thought they were stealing nations and selling out to Russia in the previous post, but your follow-up is minimal by comparison.

 

[Hades]

Oh, so now it's back to ways they are critical of your governments? I thought they were stealing nations and selling out to Russia in the previous post, but your follow-up is minimal by comparison.

Oh? Well if you insist I shall elaborate then. You live in a fantasy land where Trump never spoke of stealing Greenland, didn’t collude with our enemies or write vile strategy papers about boosting the far right and “resisting” Europe’s course. Which is weird because again Trump himself and his cronies do not even hide this. Why would you?

All things going beyond being critical, and given the aforementioned adoration of Russia and the far right it cannot be maintained Trump has legitimate criticism.

 

[Satinavian]

Trump and his guys always wanted to kill the EU. Because he wants to dominate small European nation in bilateral negotiations. That has always been a constant

 

[Hades]

Trump and his guys always wanted to kill the EU. Because he wants to dominate small European nation in bilateral negotiations. That has always been a constant

Which indeed would be doing us harm because without the EU we will be less able to protect ourselves from Russia....or the US.

The Epstein class was also cought conspiring to help bring Brexit about, so our enemies are well represented in the American elite.

 

[tstorm823]

Oh? Well if you insist I shall elaborate then. You live in a fantasy land where Trump never spoke of stealing Greenland, didn’t collude with our enemies or write vile strategy papers about boosting the far right and “resisting” Europe’s course. Which is weird because again Trump himself and his cronies do not even hide this. Why would you?

All things going beyond being critical, and given the aforementioned adoration of Russia and the far right it cannot be maintained Trump has legitimate criticism.

You've taken rather simple disagreements about policy positions and turned it into conspiracy to destroy you. You can't even imagine someone supporting parties you dislike for honest reasons.

 

[Hades]

You've taken rather simple disagreements about policy positions and turned it into conspiracy to destroy you. You can't even imagine someone supporting parties you dislike for honest reasons.

Whether America should be allowed to steal European land or not is not a “simple disagreement on policies” and never will be.

And considering the parties are all far right or even actively treasonous on Russia’s behalf and want to destroy the EU there is no reason to assume there even are honest reasons to supporting them. We are not talking about Trump liking Christian democrats or even just conservatives.

If Trump empowers parties that want to tear down the EU then the result is a crippled Europe vulnerably to foreign vultures like himself. It would also result is European countries being led by pro Russian traitors. None of that is honest nor are they legitimate end goals an ally should want for us

 

[tstorm823]

there is no reason to assume there even are honest reasons to supporting them.

In your fantasy nightmare of your own creation, I am sure this is true.

 

[Hades]

In your fantasy nightmare of your own creation, I am sure this is true.

Shows how you are kinda silly because in the real world there are already no honest reasons why an American president would want to force far right traitors on their allies, cripple them or try to steal their land.

Honest legitimate reasons for that to not exist in any land, not even the bizaro land you live in.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

Shows how you are kinda silly because in the real world there are already no honest reasons why an American president would want to force far right traitors on their allies, cripple them or try to steal their land.

Honest legitimate reasons for that to not exist in any land, not even the bizaro land you live in.

Europe is already far right according to people here. Whenever the US wants to implement a policy that's commonplace in Europe, people act like it's something far right here.

 

[Hades]

Europe is already far right according to people here. Whenever the US wants to implement a policy that's commonplace in Europe, people act like it's something far right here.

Funny. Whenever people want to implement policies in America that are commonplace in Europe the American far right, right and even part of the center insists its socialism. But when far right demagogues come in power here we do not consider them overtly different from Trump. Only their own supporters do and naively believe that people the same as Trump in every aspect will somehow be different.

The difference is that our electorates, however silly about the far right at times do not bumble their way into surrendering to the far right at the literal first hurdle. Twice. Wilders had to actually work to win, and lost when he stopped working at it. Same with Le Pen should she win. She actually had to work to deceive the French rather than being awarded power for acting like the largest freak imaginable.

 

[Schadrach]

I have friends who work in schools and hear his name come up among boys semi-frequently.

I mean that happens when the main options available are either asshats like Tate or people whose position is generally of the form that they are by nature of being male inherently broken and need to be fixed lest they be a danger to the people we actually care about, specifically women.

Better literal green slime than metaphorical orange slime?

 

[Phoenixmgs]

Funny. Whenever people want to implement policies in America that are commonplace in Europe the American far right, right and even part of the center insists its socialism. But when far right demagogues come in power here we do not consider them overtly different from Trump. Only their own supporters do and naively believe that people the same as Trump in every aspect will somehow be different.

The difference is that our electorates, however silly about the far right at times do not bumble their way into surrendering to the far right at the literal first hurdle. Twice. Wilders had to actually work to win, and lost when he stopped working at it. Same with Le Pen should she win. She actually had to work to deceive the French rather than being awarded power for acting like the largest freak imaginable.

The abortion state law that caused SCOTUS to overturn Roe was basically a copy/pasta of what the abortion laws of like 3/4s of European nations is but was framed as something far right. Numerous covid things like opening schools that literally every European country did was far right when Trump wanted schools open. Health policy for trans minors in basically every European country is considered far right/bigoted/discriminatory policy.

 

[Silvanus]

people whose position is generally of the form that they are by nature of being male inherently broken and need to be fixed lest they be a danger to the people we actually care about, specifically women.

Gonna need an example of that.

 

[tstorm823]

Shows how you are kinda silly because in the real world there are already no honest reasons why an American president would want to force far right traitors on their allies, cripple them or try to steal their land.

Honest legitimate reasons for that to not exist in any land, not even the bizaro land you live in.

So, when you cheer for communists to run America, it is a lie, and you really are hoping to destroy the country and hand it to China...

That's what you sound like.

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

Gonna need an example of that.

Steve Shives?

Literally the whole "Teach man not to rape" argument because it works on the assumption and position that men don't know any better.