10 Years After Antitrust Suit, Microsoft Up to Old Tricks
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Some of us like to actually, y'know, play games on our PCs, and Windows is the only stable option for that as far as I know.MisterColeman said:
Well Windows 8 looks retarded so I won't be getting it anyway. I assume switching it off is some kind of fail-safe, in case some massive idiot manages to break something so badly that he needs to use a browser to fix it but all of the browsers are gone or something. Internet Explorer is a pretty shady program though, so I'm not convinced by that excuse.
Although a problem with the Antitrust law was that Microsoft couldn't bundle it's free and extremely useful Anti-Virus software with their Operating Systems. So loads of idiots either got viruses or paid for some shit like Norton.
The pretentiousness of all of the Linux users when news like this appears is always amusing in it's arrogance. There are reasons people use a popular company-run Operating System over a less popular Open Source one. Microsoft have put a hell of a lot of money into making sure programs that are built shoddily or around a bug that is no longer there, so that they will work properly. Open Source doesn't do that, and because it never had the bugs in the first place even less programs will work. Windows controls as much of your computer as you want it to, switching to an almost unknown system with a smaller user-base essentially just serves the purpose of making them feel like they're special in some way.
Next they'll be saying they should ditch the controlling OS' all together and just go back to typing in the commands themselves.
Although a problem with the Antitrust law was that Microsoft couldn't bundle it's free and extremely useful Anti-Virus software with their Operating Systems. So loads of idiots either got viruses or paid for some shit like Norton.
The pretentiousness of all of the Linux users when news like this appears is always amusing in it's arrogance. There are reasons people use a popular company-run Operating System over a less popular Open Source one. Microsoft have put a hell of a lot of money into making sure programs that are built shoddily or around a bug that is no longer there, so that they will work properly. Open Source doesn't do that, and because it never had the bugs in the first place even less programs will work. Windows controls as much of your computer as you want it to, switching to an almost unknown system with a smaller user-base essentially just serves the purpose of making them feel like they're special in some way.
Next they'll be saying they should ditch the controlling OS' all together and just go back to typing in the commands themselves.
Don't see the issue. If you were actually paying attention to what MS were trying to do with Win8 you might understand why having so much of a web-browser included in the OS was important.
I just see the same old arguments from the same old "cool to hate" crowd. If IE9 is anything like IE10 it'll still be my preferred browser because it is blinding fast and not run by a company who makes money by selling information for advertising.
Maybe people would be happier if it was still the 90s and you had to go out to buy a magazine stuffed full of browser CDs to get a hold of one. Quit the whining. Use Metro if you have a tablet, ignore it if you use a PC or laptop and don't cry whenever anyone changes something.
I just see the same old arguments from the same old "cool to hate" crowd. If IE9 is anything like IE10 it'll still be my preferred browser because it is blinding fast and not run by a company who makes money by selling information for advertising.
Maybe people would be happier if it was still the 90s and you had to go out to buy a magazine stuffed full of browser CDs to get a hold of one. Quit the whining. Use Metro if you have a tablet, ignore it if you use a PC or laptop and don't cry whenever anyone changes something.
i thought this was already the case, i dont use it for surfing but isn't IE what handles all your folder windows?
Yeah, this is the first thing I can think of. It's like saying you had a pencil on you when you murdered a guy, so it MUST have been the pencil's fault! I also don't get the argument that Microsoft can't bundle IE with their systems. For one, you don't have to use it and two - how the hell are you meant to use the internet without a default explorer?Sober Thal said:
[sup]And three, I'm pretty sure Safari comes pre-installed with all Apple systems too.[/sup]
Why do lawyers and legislators allow themselves to be surprised by this stuff? Capitalism inevitably leads to monopolies. Competition leads to "winners," and "winners" become "tyrants."Greg Tito said:
The "free market" doesn't exist in the form of capitalism, nor does it exist in the form of socialism. The truly free market exists somewhere between the two. Part of that balancing process is going to be breaking up some of this crap.
So as of Windows 8 IE is effectively a strain of digital herpes. It doesn't truly ever go away, it just goes into remission.
Lovely.
Lovely.
I'm glad the Escapist write-up noted how closed off Apple's products are. I have no problem being unable to remove IE as long as I can disable it - most of Apple's front line products aren't nearly this accommodating.
I've used Firefox for years but I've never uninstalled or even disabled IE on this computer (currently running WinXP). It's rare, but occasionally having a second browser is useful.
I've used Firefox for years but I've never uninstalled or even disabled IE on this computer (currently running WinXP). It's rare, but occasionally having a second browser is useful.
To all the people asking why it was a problem back then...because other companies were trying to get in as well. But nobody really knew any better then the big blue e on their desktop. Netscape and all that bullshit was most likely handed out on cd's too with AoL 4.0 and up. I don't really remember, but that's my beat guess. In today's society, it doesn't even matter anymore.
Eh...sad to say, I do have use for Internet Explorer.
The company I work for has a website that one can access from home to do things like set up Direct Deposit, check your pay statement before the checks are in, file complaints against the store you're working in, yadda yadda yadda.
For whatever oddball reason, the company's tech department has not gotten with the times and it is ONLY IE compatible. It's frustrating as hell, but a reasonable example of how IE's still gonna be around. I can promise ya, this isn't the only company that pulls that BS.
The company I work for has a website that one can access from home to do things like set up Direct Deposit, check your pay statement before the checks are in, file complaints against the store you're working in, yadda yadda yadda.
For whatever oddball reason, the company's tech department has not gotten with the times and it is ONLY IE compatible. It's frustrating as hell, but a reasonable example of how IE's still gonna be around. I can promise ya, this isn't the only company that pulls that BS.
I'd agree with that sentiment, but I keep an installer for Firefox on my external hard drive for if I need to reinstall it, and my flash drive has a copy of Chromium just in case I need a browser that doesn't suck on someone else's computer if I'm working on it and they get pissy about me installing shit.baconsarnie said:
OT: I'd be willing to bet that not long after 8 is released someone comes up with some method to remove IE10 with or without Microsoft's blessing, so I couldn't care less. That said I have no inclination to even look Windows 8 over unless programs I want/need decide that their new versions only work with the OS, I'm quite happy with 7 right now.
Actually, Windows 8 DOES have some really neat improvements, like greatly reduced base memory usage (about 50%), much quicker startup, and lots of convenient additions like native ISO mounting, File history (basically real-time backup, like shadow copies, but on any location you choose. Very similar to Apple's Time Machine, but, as usual, with far greater compatibility).Keava said:
There are enough sites around that list all known changes to Win8, actually.
I might even get used to Metro, although this will apparently be optional in the final release.
I'll definitely get Windows 8 once it's published, especially since I'll get it for free
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