PS3 Cluster Solves Black Hole Mystery

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PS3 Cluster Solves Black Hole Mystery



Researchers at the University of Alabama and University of Massachusetts have answered a question about the nature of black holes - not with the use of a supercomputer, but with the processing power of a cluster of 16 PS3s.

When the two research teams (in Huntsville, AL and Dartmouth, MA respectively) set out to run simulations testing theories about the speed at which black holes stopped vibrating after creation, they could have rented processor time from a supercomputer specifically designed for that sort of scientific calculations.

Instead, they used the Sony PlayStation 3 - 16 of them, to be precise [http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/547653/].

The primary force behind the decision was financial, explained members of the teams - with research budgets tightening before the financial crash, scientists are frequently being asked to do more with less money. Dr. Lior Burko, a physicist and professor at UA Huntsville, said that the cost to rent a supercomputer for the time needed to run these simulations would have been about $5,000 - and that would just be a one-time use. While the PS3 cluster cost the team around $6,000 to put together, it can be reused for future research on this project and others to come.

Not every job would work well on the PS3 cluster, said Burko; these particular calculations were very processor-heavy but relatively light on RAM usage, which happened to suit the PS3 hardware nicely.

This comes as a bright spot in an otherwise gloomy sea of news for Sony amidst flagging hardware sales and lower-than-expected numbers for the holiday season: at least it'll have scientific research to fall back on if the gaming division ever goes under.




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Nimbus

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Oh, God, I can see the commercials now...

"Sony: Solving the mysteries of the Universe since 2008."
 

Jursa

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*Buy our new supercomputer PS3 clusters* Damn that would increase their sales by a lot...
 

runtheplacered

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PedroSteckecilo said:
The PS3, it doesn't have many good games, but damn can it compute.
As long as that computation requires a relatively low amount of memory. (fine print)
 

BurnoutPriest

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There is going to be a single man in Hawaii who here's of this news and begins a crusade against PS3's because their computing of black hole data, in his mind, will create quantum black holes that will devour the Earth. Several lawsuits later the PS3 will be banned. Society will then come to the realization of it's own ineptitude and weep for the future...

History channel show about how right my predictions are please.
 

51gunner

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Nifty. It shows that some scientist was playing with his PS3 one night while mulling over the problem, wondering where he could get affordable yet very powerful processors.

Also, it reminds me of the stories from a while back where you couldn't import the 'next-gen consoles' in the era of the PS2 and the original Xbox because the computers were too powerful or some such.
 

mokes310

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That's pretty interesting, although I really shouldn't be surprised that people are starting to use gaming consoles for other purposes. I'd like to see the technical specs of the cluster...
 

xitel

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Wasn't there a big hubbub about the PS2 letting terrorists launch nukes or something a while back?
 

Xpwn3ntial

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PS3's pretty cool. In case it's a total flop on games (admit it, it kind of is), it can be the next supercomputer.
 

Danny Ocean

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Aiden Rebirth said:
dear god. i have nothing to say.
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On another note. God, $5000 for one run? There are dashed my dreams of simulating realistic sex.

Woe is me.
 

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Congratulations. Now it can add "Science experiment" to its resume right under "movie...downloading machine"
 

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AceDiamond said:
Congratulations. Now it can add "Science experiment" to its resume right under "movie...downloading machine"
^Very nice.

Before we know it they'll actually make a black hole using all of these PS3s. Then how can I play MGS4? Haha
 

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xitel said:
Wasn't there a big hubbub about the PS2 letting terrorists launch nukes or something a while back?
Yeah, the speculation rose when Sadam Huessin bought 12 PS2s.

Edit: I like to see a picture of the PS3s to see if the stacked them cooly.
 

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Ha another thing my PS3 can do that you Xbox cant.
Seriously though who thought "hmm maybe PS3s would work fine instead."
4thegreatergood said:
In case it's a total flop on games (admit it, it kind of is).
No its not.
 

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Of course, since those PS3s aren't going to play any games, Sony lost money on the sales.

The other unfortunate thing is that IBM has plans to roll out actual supercomputers using the Cell processors. If it's cheap enough to throw together some PS3s and get reasonably similar performance, this is bad news for them too.

runtheplacered said:
As long as that computation requires a relatively low amount of memory. (fine print)
The sad thing is that it's only a conspiracy theory away from saying Sony deliberately crippled the memory to make sure PS3s couldn't be more useful as non-gaming machines :p
 

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xitel said:
Wasn't there a big hubbub about the PS2 letting terrorists launch nukes or something a while back?
The PS2, like most computer chips, is not allowed to be exported to the majority of middle-eastern regions, to limit technology outflow which is easily re-purposeable. The PS2's open architecture (like the PS3) makes it easy to re-purpose. The line given by the gov't was something like "preventing foreign national threats from acquiring and re-purposing...", the research papers gave that as an extreme edge case example, and the media picked and up and ran with it like morons running with scissors.

RE: the topic, good to see someone's getting a real use out of the Cell processor. It's powerful, but the memory is too poor for heavy (non-gaming) computing; sticking a whole bunch of them in parallel results in low-end supercomputer architecture, just what university research teams are desperate for.