Oldboy Remake Trailer Sure Looks Familiar

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Oldboy Remake Trailer Sure Looks Familiar

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We've finally got a solid look at Spike Lee's Americanized remake of Chan-wook Park's brilliant Oldboy, and the only thing we can say for sure is that it certainly is a remake of Oldboy.

Oldboy, the original, is one of the finest films released over the past few decades. It's a Korean thriller that seamlessly blends Shakespearean tragedy, Oedipal horror, slick modern production values, and brutal fight choreography into a film that affects viewers in ways they won't forget for days after watching the flick.

Don't believe me? You can stream it on Netflix [http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Oldboy/70024111?locale=en-us] right this very minute. See for yourself.

When it was announced that Spike Lee (a director known as well for films like Do The Right Thing and Inside Man as he is for his incendiary racial politics) would be remaking Oldboy for American audiences the reaction was swift and immediate. "There's no way this can turn out well," the Internet masses cried. "Oldboy is too great, and Spike Lee could never hope to ape Chan-wook Park's masterful storytelling."

Yet here we have the first trailer for the film. A red band trailer, at that. And what do we see? A film that, while American, looks a whole lot like the classic Oldboy we know and love. Actually, it looks almost too similar to its inspiration. None of that films especially dark moments are reenacted in this trailer, but we do get a brief glimpse at Lee's attempt to replicate the iconic hammer fight scene [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK_I-oIE7zI]. It doesn't look bad per se, but from what we see in the trailer there's very little sense of claustrophobia in the fight, which may serve traditional action film shooting techniques, but removes a crucial element of what made that scene so tense in the first place.

Plus, as much as we like Josh Brolin as an actor, he doesn't quite pull off that "bedraggled, insane, emotionally traumatized" look required of Oldboy's protagonist quite as well as Min-sik Choi, lead actor in the original. Brolin does add an element of sex appeal to the role that Choi lacks, but that's completely unnecessary for this particular acting gig, and could arguably serve to distract audiences from the important, dark themes of the film.

We won't judge Lee's take on Oldboy until we've seen the thing, but if this trailer is any indicator, the translation from Korean to American didn't do much to affect the film's broad strokes, but it may have removed all of the teeth that made the original Oldboy such a bloody fan favorite.

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DTWolfwood

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Now i want to see the original SOO BAD right now...

edit::: ITS STREAMABLE ON NETFLIX! So gonna watch the sh** out this when i get home from work lol
 

wooty

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They're remaking Oldboy? and Americanizing it?

Thats it. THATS IT!! Someone fetch my torch and pitchfork!
 

Wil213

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Oldboy is one of my favourite films [Park is one of my most favourite directors] and seems like this Americanized version is going to be a very good film. But it has lost the original's subtlety. The violence and the 'gore' is still there but the original was much more. But being compared to the original was going to be the main problem. It seems like its going to be a good film at least by its own merit.
 

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wooty said:
They're remaking Oldboy? and Americanizing it?

Thats it. THATS IT!! Someone fetch my torch and pitchfork!
They've been talking about it for a long time now and I am pretty sure most of the mob madness has died down recently. I mean, there's no way it will top the original, but it may still turn out well.
 

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About halfway through the trailer they showed something that basically proves the climactic moment won't be the same as the original.

They showed the daughter on TV. If that's her, there's no way the person he's working with and becomes the lover of is her. He knows what she looks like in the first 20 minutes of the movie. Unless that footage is edited heavily and shown to him at the end instead of the beginning, it can't work out the same.

All in all, Josh Brolin is brilliant, Sam Jackson is awesome, and it looks to try its best to pay homage to the original. I am fairly confident in giving this movie a shot.
 

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Quiotu said:
About halfway through the trailer they showed something that basically proves the climactic moment won't be the same as the original.

They showed the daughter on TV. If that's her, there's no way the person he's working with and becomes the lover of is her. He knows what she looks like in the first 20 minutes of the movie. Unless that footage is edited heavily and shown to him at the end instead of the beginning, it can't work out the same.

All in all, Josh Brolin is brilliant, Sam Jackson is awesome, and it looks to try its best to pay homage to the original. I am fairly confident in giving this movie a shot.
As some people have said in the other thread:

There's no guarantee that the woman on the TV is actual his daughter beyond what the guy who kidnapped him is saying, which could easily be total bullshit.

And as I said on the other thread, if thats the case, it feels like a deliberate attempt at Americanizing the plot twist.
 

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Eh I'm not too excited I like all the people individually that are taking part in the film. Buuuut Brolin looks sort of miscast, he goes from buff and grizzled when he gets taken, to when he's released where he's more buff and more grizzled. I think they should gone for an actor that NO one would of expected for the role. my personal choice would of been Forest Whitaker make him lose some of the pudge between scenes and I bet he would nail it.
 

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I'm curious to see if it can be nearly as dark and twisted as the Korean original considering that it's an American film and they tend to get squeamish about some of these things.

All in all I actually do hope they change a decent amount, I don't really want to just watch "Oldboy in America", I'd rather it have its own take on the premise.
 

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Soooooo not interested in seeing an Americanized remake of a film that is only a decade old. This looks like a pretty, sanitized retread of the original material. The trailer is boring, the action looks boring, and it lacks that dense claustrophobic feels that you get from Asian urban centers. Nope, not wasting my time/money. I also don't see it keeping the original ending, American audiences aren't so keen on Korean squick.

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VonKlaw said:
Quiotu said:
About halfway through the trailer they showed something that basically proves the climactic moment won't be the same as the original.

They showed the daughter on TV. If that's her, there's no way the person he's working with and becomes the lover of is her. He knows what she looks like in the first 20 minutes of the movie. Unless that footage is edited heavily and shown to him at the end instead of the beginning, it can't work out the same.

All in all, Josh Brolin is brilliant, Sam Jackson is awesome, and it looks to try its best to pay homage to the original. I am fairly confident in giving this movie a shot.
As some people have said in the other thread:

There's no guarantee that the woman on the TV is actual his daughter beyond what the guy who kidnapped him is saying, which could easily be total bullshit.

And as I said on the other thread, if thats the case, it feels like a deliberate attempt at Americanizing the plot twist.
Either way, this film gives the character a motive, a reason to be "the good guy". In Park Chan Wook's version, Oh Dae Su is just after revenge and to quench his curiosity. He's not a nice person, and we don't feel sorry for him (for various reasons, ain't gonna spoil them here). That's what made it so strong - there were no good guys, and it has an incredibly conflicting ending. Who, in this wretched film, can you relate to? I don't know anyone who really relates to Oh Dae Su, even if they sympathise for him.

This remake looks Hollywood standard "Do this or I'll do this, mwahahaha". Boring.
 

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I am not one to criticize a Hollywood remake as I really don't care, but that looked awful.
 

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wooty said:
They're remaking Oldboy? and Americanizing it?

Thats it. THATS IT!! Someone fetch my torch and pitchfork!
As to Koreanizing it and have you READ the original.. it ... let me say the korean movie took good liberties.
 

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As some people above have said they've already messed up a few aspects which makes me quite upset.
Another thing they messed up was the two questions. It isn't "Answer me Why did I lock you up and Why did I let you go" Its just "Who and Why" Which is important for the twist because he thinks that the Who is Woo-Jin and the Why is Why did you lock me up when its not.
I have a feeling that this movie isn't going to be that good, especially not as good as the original was but I'll still probably see it just to give it a chance.
 

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Ok so the core plot is somewhat the same but everything else is different (I doubt they will have him take a bite of a lived octopus, they change that angel wing gift for something else and having milk and noodle instead of dumpling)!

I highly doubt the remake can even top this iconic scene from the original!
 

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Quiotu said:
About halfway through the trailer they showed something that basically proves the climactic moment won't be the same as the original.

They showed the daughter on TV. If that's her, there's no way the person he's working with and becomes the lover of is her. He knows what she looks like in the first 20 minutes of the movie. Unless that footage is edited heavily and shown to him at the end instead of the beginning, it can't work out the same.

All in all, Josh Brolin is brilliant, Sam Jackson is awesome, and it looks to try its best to pay homage to the original. I am fairly confident in giving this movie a shot.
That actually didn't happen in the original Manga and was added to the movie. So you could argue that it's actually more faithful to the source material in this instance.
 

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Scorpid said:
Eh I'm not too excited I like all the people individually that are taking part in the film. Buuuut Brolin looks sort of miscast, he goes from buff and grizzled when he gets taken, to when he's released where he's more buff and more grizzled. I think they should gone for an actor that NO one would of expected for the role. my personal choice would of been Forest Whitaker make him lose some of the pudge between scenes and I bet he would nail it.
I second this notion. That could have been amazing as hell. Forest Whitaker doesn't get enough opportunity to go badass on the world. And he deserves it.
 

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Well there was Repomen where he didn't need to go more badass and.. well he seems more everday guy and common. Not badass. Though admittedly would fit the role.. ten years ago. Yeah I think he's just a little too old to play a guy with a young daughter put away for 13 years.

Really the original story is more yakuza standard potboiler with a twist and the thrust is tour of the weird underground of then contemporary Japan. Park took that baseline story (that ends TERRIBLY) and fit it in with his Vengeance trilogy weaved in more classic elements and made it a comment in part on Korean society but mainly a specific part the type interacted with and the genre of vengeance movies. That doesn't make the movie less. It means an american take on the story is as valid. My apprehension is they are *doing it right* as to taking it and giving it some strong vibes and visuals and themes of its own hanging on the same or similar skeleton.