How Cherry City Comic Con Created a Cosplay Crisis Before First Day

Dragonbums

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The only thing that idiot have to do is "Sure thing we can find more male cosplayers and display them on Facebook". Holy Christ.
 

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Dragonbums said:
The only thing that idiot have to do is "Sure thing we can find more male cosplayers and display them on Facebook". Holy Christ.
He could've just ignored her as well.

I guess we can all learn from his mistake and ignore people trying to drag us into stupid public pissing contests.
 
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Doom972 said:
Dragonbums said:
The only thing that idiot have to do is "Sure thing we can find more male cosplayers and display them on Facebook". Holy Christ.
He could've just ignored her as well.

I guess we can all learn from his mistake and ignore people trying to drag us into stupid public pissing contests.
It wasn't a public pissing contest, and he wasn't dragged into it; it was someone raising a concern they had, him reacting poorly, then things spiraling out of control.

She tried to get her refund privately when she decided she didn't like how he was comporting himself, but he posted publicly about it and, as Lincoln put it, shot himself in the foot. Blaming her for trying to escalate things is extremely wrong-headed.
 

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Doom972 said:
Dragonbums said:
The only thing that idiot have to do is "Sure thing we can find more male cosplayers and display them on Facebook". Holy Christ.
He could've just ignored her as well.

I guess we can all learn from his mistake and ignore people trying to drag us into stupid public pissing contests.
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What was the pissing contest though?

The woman basically requested that more men be represented in their cosplay catalog, and another simply inquiries how family friendly it would be given the amount of scantily clad women cosplays were on display on the page. (and scantily clad cosplay is not family friendly)

The first one could of simply been answered with "okay, we will try to see if more male cosplayers are interested and post them on our page" the second one can be responded with a recommended age group for potential con goers or a set of guidelines for what a cosplayer can or cannot wear.
 

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This guys comments were spot on. But bad idea to be that abrasive about it when you're the PR of an organization. And then resorting to sockpuppeting? His handling of this was so bad.

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It's easy to conclude, once you've managed to wrap your head around the confusing and often inexplicable behavior, that this is a textbook case of institutional sexism
Wait, what? It's only easy to conclude such a thing if you're not sure how to form conclusions or how "that logic thing" is supposed to work.

Someone who expresses concerns about their personal safety after having a conversation that could not possibly even remotely lead anyone to conclude that personal safety will be an issue must be batshit crazy, or in clinical terms paranoid. It's not sexism to point out the batshit craziness of these people. Just stupid if you happen to represent an organization with a financial interest in placating these concerns, regardless of how inane they are.

Nor is it sexist to tell someone who appears to be suggesting that they expect mandated gender quotas in everything and anything they lay eyes on to shove off. He said it pretty straight: he was looking for good cosplayers, not trying to maintain gender symmetry and in the process present a lot of poorly done cosplays by men. He just has no idea to communicate his idea effectively.

Oh man, this is why Anita Sarkeesian and the rise of feminism in gaming culture annoys me to no end. You can bet 90% of the people crying "sexism" in this case were her brand of loony feminist. And there's no way to stop the torrent of stupidity these people will unleash. I thought gaming might resist the behemoth that has infected every branch of popular culture and every major institution in America, but I suppose the price to pay for being accepted into the mainstream is to invite the feminist loonies who dominate it to "purify it" and police both thought and rhetoric that goes against the party ideology. Or whatever.
 

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If I had a nickel for every time I heard about a convoluted shitstorm occurring because the wrong person saw somebody's Facebook rant...

Everybody gets pissed, everybody acts stupid when they're angry, and it's just too easy for that to spill over into a social media website that many people are constantly glued to. Check your friends list. Are they actually your friends? Not a good way to find out.
 

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MinionJoe said:
Oh man... If I ever decide to share my porn collection publicly, I better make sure it contains a perfect 50/50 split of men and women. Better yet, a 33/33/33 split of men, women, and hermaphrodite. Or ideally, a 25/25/25/25 split of men, women, hermaphrodites, and asexuals.
Wow. Did you intend to make a straight up comparison between displaying cosplay pictures and porn?

Is there no better example you could come up with to prove your point? Because I'm not sure this is the strongest argument you could make...
 

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MinionJoe said:
Oh man... If I ever decide to share my porn collection publicly, I better make sure it contains a perfect 50/50 split of men and women. Better yet, a 33/33/33 split of men, women, and hermaphrodite. Or ideally, a 25/25/25/25 split of men, women, hermaphrodites, and asexuals.
Just going to put this out here.

If people are equating cosplay with porn this easily, it's pretty reasonable to question the con's claim of being a family friendly environment all things considered.
 

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How Cherry City Comic Con Created a Cosplay Crisis Before First Day

We examine the public relations nightmare surrounding the launch of the new fan convention in Salem, Oregon.

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MinionJoe said:
Oh man... If I ever decide to share my porn collection publicly, I better make sure it contains a perfect 50/50 split of men and women. Better yet, a 33/33/33 split of men, women, and hermaphrodite. Or ideally, a 25/25/25/25 split of men, women, hermaphrodites, and asexuals.
Oh man all that hot hot asexual porn... all those clothed people doing things that don't involve other people...
 

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CelestDaer said:
MinionJoe said:
Oh man... If I ever decide to share my porn collection publicly, I better make sure it contains a perfect 50/50 split of men and women. Better yet, a 33/33/33 split of men, women, and hermaphrodite. Or ideally, a 25/25/25/25 split of men, women, hermaphrodites, and asexuals.
Oh man all that hot hot asexual porn... all those clothed people doing things that don't involve other people...
Silly goose, that's "asocial". Asexual just means they're doing stuff that doesn't involve sex, like reading to one another, or playing games, or having a romantic candle-lit dinner under the stars. At least that's what I would do.
 

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Wow, dude has no customer service skill. Even if someone is a complete asshole, you don't turn around and be a complete asshole yourself. It never ends in your favor.
 

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Kalezian said:
He knew it was wrong, he even admitted it, so why did he even say it in the first place?
to put it bluntly, bullshit. you can't tell me you've never said or did something you knew was wrong because of an elevated emotional state? if you say no, you are a lying lying liar. we all have. unfortunately, in this day and age, this happens in a lasting public atmosphere more and more often. i'm not being an apologist for the guy really, but to be so blindly black and white is just arrogant and implied hypocrisy. implied because i can't prove you've ever done this, but you're a human being so... you've done this.

i've read the guy's words, and read other apologies as well, where you can tell it was bullshit. this guy though, his apology comes off as sincere, and as the article said, sometimes it takes a real shock to the system to wake up your mind. don't let this lesson be passed as just another regret in his life, let it galvanize as a moment of change, we'll all be better off for it.
 

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shirkbot said:
CelestDaer said:
MinionJoe said:
Oh man... If I ever decide to share my porn collection publicly, I better make sure it contains a perfect 50/50 split of men and women. Better yet, a 33/33/33 split of men, women, and hermaphrodite. Or ideally, a 25/25/25/25 split of men, women, hermaphrodites, and asexuals.
Oh man all that hot hot asexual porn... all those clothed people doing things that don't involve other people...
Silly goose, that's "asocial". Asexual just means they're doing stuff that doesn't involve sex, like reading to one another, or playing games, or having a romantic candle-lit dinner under the stars. At least that's what I would do.
that's what i would do too... right before a raging sweaty fuck session haha. Asexuality is one thing i just cannot understand. I don't condemn them at all, don't view them as odd or deviants, i just don't get it. I can see certain arguments for it i guess, but in practice, it just doesn't work. i've spent the last 4 years on and off sleeping with a girl i practically hate because of the power of sex. Is it biological, that they don't have the drive? is it a matter of Gandhi-esque self control? Or did they just do it wrong the first time and hated it and figured that's all it was and never went back and re-examine? (too many "and"s in that sentence.)

i remember, when i was 17, i was so annoyed by my brother and my friends doing anything and everything it took to get laid. then i had sex. then i understood. of course, i didn't pursue it quite as feverishly. i could have been a real manwhore in highschool, but i'm more of a relationship kinda guy.