13-Year Old Girl, Strip Searched ; For what ?
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Yeah, like using torture and then lying about it afterwards despite international conventions banning such actions.SyphonX said:
Democracy is no better.
In regards to the case, it's obviously wrong. Unless she was posing a threat to anyone, schools shouldn't even be allowed to search her let alone strip search her!
If i was the girls father i would have beat her vice principle within an inch of his life. Overreaction my ass, clearly the man was a sick pervert to order a 13 year old (who had a clean school record btw) to be stripped down to her underwear.
It's going to the supreme court because someone will likely go to jail or get heavily sued over this. Strip searching a minor is (very) illegal even for school staff.Good morning blues said:
The federal court's already declared it illegal so I imagine the education board is desperately looking for a way to save face, which is why they're fighting it so hard.
Even if they had heard about or seen such pills on her person, then the reasonable thing to do is to bring her into an office. This puts her under supervised "custody", clearly if it is on her person she can't get rid of the pills under supervision. They then search her locker and backpack etc ;That is fairly acceptable. (Locker is school property, backpack meets reasonable search)the_hessian said:
Now, if for whatever reason they deem it necessary to further search her person, i.e. her body. Then they have to at first notify authorities and her parental guardians in which case the guardian can deny the search requiring the authorities to obtain a warrant in order to do so. Which they obviously wouldn't do for a couple of ibuprofen pills. An immediate search isn't necessary because the pills on her person have no way of doing harm to herself or other persons. Get my drift? Common sense policy. Searching her immediately because she supposedly distributed the so-called pills to others does not rip a hole in the time/space continuum and remove the other pills from other people. Total nonsense.
Again, if the student is brought into an office under 'custody' and supervision, there is no need for a "search" because the pills go nowhere. The student is isolated from discarding the evidence or further distributing.
The jokes on you yanks.
Fact is that the fascist/Commie states actually won the cold war. They packed up and left because they realised your government was and is doing worse things to your own people and subjecting you to more ridiculously restrictive legislation that their cause became redundant. So they gave you a bit of a golfclap around 1991 as the Berlin Wall was coming down then narfed off for a couple of vodkas to celebrate.
This is just an additional sprinkle of icing sugar on an already over-decorated cake..
Fact is that the fascist/Commie states actually won the cold war. They packed up and left because they realised your government was and is doing worse things to your own people and subjecting you to more ridiculously restrictive legislation that their cause became redundant. So they gave you a bit of a golfclap around 1991 as the Berlin Wall was coming down then narfed off for a couple of vodkas to celebrate.
This is just an additional sprinkle of icing sugar on an already over-decorated cake..
the vice principal is a creep.
Enforcing zero tolerace over Ibuprofen?, get a grip, the man needs to be taught some manners.
It's headed/has gone to the Supreme Court within recent memory. Honestly, you're missing the current party.Ph0t0n1c Ph34r said:
Schools absolutely need greater tools to safeguard children under their care. Zero tolerance in regards to drugs is absolutely necessary since you never know which drugs are going to have an adverse reaction with which child when they start sharing, and you can not trust children to think medically. Suing schools ultimately robs said schools of needed funds and is a horrible idea.
Having said all this, the girls family should have sued, and vigorously. They have a clear-cut case of over-reaction, unwarranted sexual humiliation (doesn't matter your intent, it matters how it affects the victim), abuse of authority, disregard for privacy, disregard for proper notification of the parents, etc. etc. etc.
If the Supreme Court rules in the schools favor I suggest we all move. To wherever Dr. Manhattan went.
You can thank those bullshit zero-tolerance policies for this. God forbid there be a gray area - instead, anyone suspected of possession is treated as a criminal. Guilty until proven innocent. It's absurd.
I'm GLAD this is going to the supreme court. The entire philosophical methodologies dictating how all American schools handle drugs NEEDS to change. Completely. Not just in that highschool or in that state but in the whole country. It's unconstitutional and, worst of all, doesn't work.
I'm GLAD this is going to the supreme court. The entire philosophical methodologies dictating how all American schools handle drugs NEEDS to change. Completely. Not just in that highschool or in that state but in the whole country. It's unconstitutional and, worst of all, doesn't work.
I'm not disagreeing... I completely agree that it's a totally f***ed up state of affairs, and utterly shambolic that it is required to even be discussed by the supreme court, it is nothing short of a travisty of justice.SyphonX said:
The world is a totally f***ed place at times...
Yeah, we just talked about this case in my Government class today. I was fucking pissed at the absurdity of it. Over Ibuprofen!? I think not. If I was anywhere near there, that VP would've had a bullet between the eyes. I take abuse of power very, very seriously.
Well, I gotta say: This almost brought me down to the level of posting a random facepalm picture.
But at least it sends a clear message: don't come to school if you have a headache or the sniffles, as you'll soon find yourself with no clothes.
Is this headed to THE Supreme Court? Really? I gotta say: this borders the McDonald's coffee case for sheer idiocy.
But at least it sends a clear message: don't come to school if you have a headache or the sniffles, as you'll soon find yourself with no clothes.
Is this headed to THE Supreme Court? Really? I gotta say: this borders the McDonald's coffee case for sheer idiocy.
Yeah yeah, I can only assume you're British. Last time I checked, the U.K. had a security cam on every street corner and in nearly every building in the country. Something like a camera for every 5 people?kitsuna said:
Not to mention I heard a case involving a school in the U.K. where a student found a camera in the bathroom wall, pulled it out and brought it to the office only to find out he ripped out school property.