#131: Light Rounds

John the Gamer

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Why didn't he buy the trigger upgrade for his rifle? It gives a solid +5 damage boost. Doesn't he know there's a weapon upgrade vendor next to the guardsmen cantina?
 

Bindal

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Well, 15 damage can be quite a lot, depending how much health that guy has.

Also, isn't that one of the first cases, where an "in-game" character straight up mentions a game mechanic within their own game? How is he even aware of that?
Of course, he could just use .22 rounds or something that barely do anything and they're classed as "Level One", but somehow I doubt that was the intention behind that line.
(Yes, I love to overthink those things)
 

Gethsemani_v1legacy

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Bindal said:
Of course, he could just use .22 rounds or something that barely do anything and they're classed as "Level One", but somehow I doubt that was the intention behind that line.
You are aware that the NATO-standard is a .223 round, right? 5.56mm is incredibly lethal if it is the standard 5.56x45mm round. =p

I assume you are referring to the .22 Long Rifle though, which is still quite lethal and more than capable of causing serious injury or death if the shooter is proficient or the target unlucky. The simple truth about firearms is that there's no such thing as a "non dangerous" round, a .22 LR has no trouble going through soft tissue and will even pierce bone (such as a person's skull or sternum) and getting hit in a vital organ will cause serious injuries.
 

Kenjitsuka

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So even the *bullets* have levels?! Damn, that's some hardcore RPG-ing going on!
I bet modifiers can even stack tertiary or beyond!
 

Vern

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Gethsemani said:
Bindal said:
Of course, he could just use .22 rounds or something that barely do anything and they're classed as "Level One", but somehow I doubt that was the intention behind that line.
You are aware that the NATO-standard is a .223 round, right? 5.56mm is incredibly lethal if it is the standard 5.56x45mm round. =p

I assume you are referring to the .22 Long Rifle though, which is still quite lethal and more than capable of causing serious injury or death if the shooter is proficient or the target unlucky. The simple truth about firearms is that there's no such thing as a "non dangerous" round, a .22 LR has no trouble going through soft tissue and will even pierce bone (such as a person's skull or sternum) and getting hit in a vital organ will cause serious injuries.
5.56x45 is lethal, but at close range it's rather mediocre. The round was designed at the start of the cold war, and it was made to pierce body armor and steel helmets. Against soft targets under 100 yards it's effectiveness is reduced drastically. It'll still kill you if you're hit in the brain or heart, but a 60 grain bullet doesn't pack much of a punch, and the energy transfer is pretty negligible, and there's almost no chance of hydro-static shock with an 60 grain FMJ round. It can happen, but it's rare. Even rarer with a 40 grain .22LR round, it's deadly if the shot placement is correct, but it's not something you should use for offense or defense. It works fine for small game, but if you're using it for defensive purposes you better be dead on with your aim.

I've always preferred .30 myself, 7.62x39 at 130 grain, 7.62x51 at 150 grain, or 7.62x54 at 180 grain.
 

Gethsemani_v1legacy

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Vern said:
5.56x45 is lethal, but at close range it's rather mediocre.
You and I have a rather different idea of mediocre. Mattias Flink [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mattias_Flink] had no trouble killing seven people at close range using standard Swedish full metal jackets.

Vern said:
It'll still kill you if you're hit in the brain or heart, but a 60 grain bullet doesn't pack much of a punch, and the energy transfer is pretty negligibl
Or the liver, or the spleen, or a lung, or the urinal bladder, or any major blood vessel. Contrary to popular belief, the human body is packed with things that does not react well to getting hit by firearms of any caliber, especially not military-grade calibers. Sure, it might be less lethal at 100 yards then a 7.62x51mm, but that's sort of like saying that having your hand chopped off with a power saw is not as bad as having it sawed of by a hack saw.

My point is that we should never talk about firearms as harmless or suggest that firearms "barely do anything" if they hit a human body. Because they do and even a .22 LR is fully capable of killing a person if they don't receive urgent medical care. And even if they don't kill, they are more than likely to leave long lasting or permanent physical problems or handicaps.
 

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Hay! At least you actually HIT the guy!

Other than that, did he run out of bullets?