14 year old shoots himself in the head during school
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Bravo to you good sir. I'm going through a bit of depression right now and I can see the side of humanity that would make a person think that this is the only way out. People like that are truly hurting, they aren't just "pussys who can't handle life". I hate this mentality that some people have. Its so goddam insensitive.Mortai Gravesend said:
I'm not being unsympathetic. I'm saying that one life, now ended, is not as important as potential mental and emotional trauma on 70 lives.
While I can certainly see why people would consider killing themselves, having worked with suicidal people, and experiencing suicidal thoughts at some points during my life, I can not understand why anyone that is not sociopathic (yeah, yeah, ASPD, bugger off) would consider doing it in public.
While I can certainly see why people would consider killing themselves, having worked with suicidal people, and experiencing suicidal thoughts at some points during my life, I can not understand why anyone that is not sociopathic (yeah, yeah, ASPD, bugger off) would consider doing it in public.
Many people have survived taking a 9mm bullet straight through the brain case. The path of destruction from the bullet itself doesn't kill, the subsequent swelling however does. Though the bullet does cause major brain damage, so does a lobotomy.ravenshrike said:
I'm sure that bullying was the underlying reason, but why are people so receptive to it? I mean, in high school I wasn't the skinniest kid in school, and not tall at all. And yes, some of the kids in grades higher than me tried to bully me. But I was one of those guys who looked them square in the face and pulled a whole "come at me bro" scene and that was that.
Case in point, I made friends with some of the seniors my freshman year (no I didn't play sports or join a club, I was just that kid who made friends everywhere he went) When a group of preps tried to toss me into a dumpster it was broken up by a few of them that were like "no this guy's cool" and the guy who wanted to toss me into the trash got himself tossed because he wouldn't cut it out.
Not once did I ever consider "hey, I'm going to shoot myself because you picked on me boo hoo" And I sadly cannot show any sympathy for those who do. I know he deserves it, and needs it, but I can't.
Case in point, I made friends with some of the seniors my freshman year (no I didn't play sports or join a club, I was just that kid who made friends everywhere he went) When a group of preps tried to toss me into a dumpster it was broken up by a few of them that were like "no this guy's cool" and the guy who wanted to toss me into the trash got himself tossed because he wouldn't cut it out.
Not once did I ever consider "hey, I'm going to shoot myself because you picked on me boo hoo" And I sadly cannot show any sympathy for those who do. I know he deserves it, and needs it, but I can't.
I realy don't think you guys should guess why he killed himself. He probobly had his reasons, though I disagree with his course of action the least YOU could do is honor him and don't make his death a joke or an entertainment source.
I'm sickened.
I'm sickened by the deep psychological torture this poor sod must have gone through. I'm sickened by the fact that, faced with such impenetrable obstacles, he made a conscious decision to kill himself. I'm sickened by the act. It's not something that any 14 year-old should even SEE, let alone do to themselves. If this is an elementary school then there'll be little kids who saw that...how is that sight going to impact on them in their future?
Finally, I'm sickened by the responses within this thread. I don't mean the folks who are giving legitimate suggestions and condolences...you guys are awesome, keep it up. I speak of the trolls, the imbeciles and the downright SCUM that are posting flame bait responses and commentary to the tone of "I don't even care" and/or "Stupid Americans with their stupid gun laws."
Yes, the laws are silly (and I'm not just saying that because I'm British and might be planning to bring the US back into the Empire
). Ease of access is a contributing factor, no doubt, but you're looking at it all wrong. It's not a matter of what weapon was used to attempt the act, it's a matter of the psychological damage that led up to that boy's decision to end his young life. Do you seriously think he'd stop in his tracks if guns weren't available? There are many ways to kill yourself, and he would have gone along with one or more of them in the end.
My heart goes out to him, really. I hope he can get some help and go on to live a happy and fulfilling life. No one should have to kill themselves, especially not the young.
I'm sickened by the deep psychological torture this poor sod must have gone through. I'm sickened by the fact that, faced with such impenetrable obstacles, he made a conscious decision to kill himself. I'm sickened by the act. It's not something that any 14 year-old should even SEE, let alone do to themselves. If this is an elementary school then there'll be little kids who saw that...how is that sight going to impact on them in their future?
Finally, I'm sickened by the responses within this thread. I don't mean the folks who are giving legitimate suggestions and condolences...you guys are awesome, keep it up. I speak of the trolls, the imbeciles and the downright SCUM that are posting flame bait responses and commentary to the tone of "I don't even care" and/or "Stupid Americans with their stupid gun laws."
Yes, the laws are silly (and I'm not just saying that because I'm British and might be planning to bring the US back into the Empire
). Ease of access is a contributing factor, no doubt, but you're looking at it all wrong. It's not a matter of what weapon was used to attempt the act, it's a matter of the psychological damage that led up to that boy's decision to end his young life. Do you seriously think he'd stop in his tracks if guns weren't available? There are many ways to kill yourself, and he would have gone along with one or more of them in the end.My heart goes out to him, really. I hope he can get some help and go on to live a happy and fulfilling life. No one should have to kill themselves, especially not the young.
Yeah...no. No kid brings a gun to school to show off to his friends. Knives? Possible, if they're dumb enough or in a gang. But the only reason anyone would bring a gun to school for is shooting themselves, someone around them, or both. And honestly, have you handled a gun? Pretty much the first thing people learn about them is to not have anything looking down the barrel that is not safe to shoot at.SmegInThePants said:
The first thing I thought while reading this. Which is probably bad on my part.RUINER ACTUAL said:
This issue would have inspired a poem from me but Pearl Jam already did it.
Jeremy spoke in, classsssss todayyyyy
Jeremy spoke in, classsssss todayyyyy
i might as well have thought of doing this, as i'm sure others in whatever other work or school environment that can inspire depression might have.
from the perspective of this kid, i must have to conclude that he actually thought this decision true, however saddening it might be. suicide will happen, and there is very little you can do to stop someone from doing it who has truly made up their decision about their own life, unless they are cruelly misinformed.
all the "GUNS IN AMERICA" and "14 YR. OLD IN ELEMENTARY?" stuff is almost equally irrelevant.
and once again, 14 is far into the age of reason. it wasn't an accident, it was a decision he made to end his life there.
from the perspective of this kid, i must have to conclude that he actually thought this decision true, however saddening it might be. suicide will happen, and there is very little you can do to stop someone from doing it who has truly made up their decision about their own life, unless they are cruelly misinformed.
all the "GUNS IN AMERICA" and "14 YR. OLD IN ELEMENTARY?" stuff is almost equally irrelevant.
and once again, 14 is far into the age of reason. it wasn't an accident, it was a decision he made to end his life there.
I don't know man, where I live (Australia) shit like this doesnt happen on a daily basis, the gun crime - suicide thing, and I seem to hear an awful lot about this stuff happening in America all the time.-Samurai- said:
But what do I know, I'm just an ignorant foreigner right?
Because it happens here every day, right? Every single day, a teen takes a firearm to school and blows their brains out. It's amazing that there are even children in the US, what with them all killing themselves.Darth_Dude said:
And you hear about that shit all the time because it gets whatever media source you hear it from some attention. Not because we're all too busy shooting ourselves and each other to do some good.
But, hey, at least you understand your place. At the end of the day, you're just another uninformed person that doesn't know what their talking about. Another person basing their opinion of an entire country on the things they hear about in the news. People like you make me love my country, because it isn't full of people like you.
Perhaps, but a quick google search on gun crimes in America reveals that '83 Average number of Americans killed by guns EVERYDAY' and '34,000 Average number of Americans killed by guns EVERY YEAR'. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-rosenthal/us-gun-violence-by-the-nu_b_139879.html-Samurai- said:
You can chalk that up to the large population meaning a larger number of deaths, or you can blame the massive proliferation of guns. But I can assure you, these statistics are nowhere near Australia's. Again, it could be the population, or just the fact that there are more guns.
Another point I'd like to mention, when in Australia the Port Arthur Massacre happened, when 35 or so people where killed by a crazy guy with guns, new gun control laws were introduced very quickly, and there hasnt been something like that since.
But in America, stuff like the Columbine shootings and the Virginia Tech shootings just keeps happening! Jesus, shit keeps happening, people keep dieing and the laws don't change!
But hey, I'm just an ignorant foreigner right?
Your source hasn't been relevant, or correct, for four years now.Darth_Dude said:
We've also got about 290,000,000 more people than Australia, so yeah, statistically, we're going to have things like that happen more often. It isn't like massive shootings occur all the time. Only once every few years. And this particular case is one stupid teen.
And you are aware that after the stricter gun laws in Australia, gun crime increased, right? The buyback program did nothing to stop people with unregistered guns from committing crimes. Suicide rates using a firearm went down, while suicide rates using means such as hanging and drug poisoning went up.
But it's cool. Keep listening to the media reports that only report on the negative because it gets them higher ratings. Just keep ignoring facts to try to prove....whatever it is you're trying to prove....What was it again? You don't seem to really have a point.
I thought it was fairly clear that my point was that Americans are borderline moronic about their gun laws.-Samurai- said:
