Rocket League Has a New 20-Word Language Ban System

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Rocket League Has a New 20-Word Language Ban System

//cdn.themis-media.com/media/global/images/library/deriv/1420/1420848.jpgUsing certain words in Rocket League chat could get you suspended or even permanently banned from the game.

If you've ever thought that the language in Rocket League chat was a bit out of control, Psyonix is releasing a new system that should help clean things up a bit. This new "language ban" system will automatically ban players who get reported for using certain words in chat. It was announced in a news post [https://www.rocketleague.com/news/new-ban-practices-season-4-rewards-update/] on the game's official site.

When the system goes live this week, the list will contain 20 words and variants. Psyonix isn't sharing the words on the list, of course, but the company did say that it includes racial slurs. The list will also grow and evolve over time, and will include words from multiple languages.

What's interesting it some words apparently can trigger faster bans. "Each word has its own threshold, and once a threshold for any word has been reached, that player will be automatically subject to a ban," writes the company. "These bans will typically start at 24 hours, then escalate to 72 hours, one week, and finally, a permanent ban."

The company says that it receives "thousands of reports" daily, and that the majority of them are "tied to in-game abuse and harassment -- typically in the form of abusive language." This new system will look to curb some of that. The new ban system will automate the process somewhat, and will also reassure players that something is being done about the players that are being reported.

Psyonix asks the community, "If you see another player using abusive language during your match, please report them, mute them, and let us take care of the rest."



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[BarkBarker]

I hope none of the words are words people use in humour, jest or just friends. People say nigga and various other words in humour, in casual conversation or even when quoting lyrics. Just a thought.

 

[KissingSunlight]

In the 1970's, George Carlin observed there were only seven words you can't say on TV. Now, we are up to 20 words we can't say playing a video game. I don't like this slippery slope that we are on.

 

[Xorph]

Why not just ban the player from using the chat? Banning them from the game as a whole seems pretty ridiculous.

 

[Bindal]

In the 1970's, George Carlin observed there were only seven words you can't say on TV. Now, we are up to 20 words we can't say playing a video game. I don't like this slippery slope that we are on.

The difference is that those 7 words can be said without being directed at anyone in general - while the 20 words in this case are most likely going to be insults that are always directed at someone.
In other words: Feel free to swear like a sailor, but don't act like a jerk to the other players. Which should be common sense, but apparently it has to be enforced via bans.

Why not just ban the player from using the chat? Banning them from the game as a whole seems pretty ridiculous.

Some people don't learn unless they get the harshest consequences (and even then, some never learn). And if it's temp bans only, it's still not a big deal long-term.
And if they do get a permanent ban, they deserve it, as far as I am concerned given how often they need to actually be affected in the first place.

 

[KissingSunlight]

In the 1970's, George Carlin observed there were only seven words you can't say on TV. Now, we are up to 20 words we can't say playing a video game. I don't like this slippery slope that we are on.

The difference is that those 7 words can be said without being directed at anyone in general - while the 20 words in this case are most likely going to be insults that are always directed at someone.
In other words: Feel free to swear like a sailor, but don't act like a jerk to the other players. Which should be common sense, but apparently it has to be enforced via bans.

Why not just ban the player from using the chat? Banning them from the game as a whole seems pretty ridiculous.

Some people don't learn unless they get the harshest consequences (and even then, some never learn). And if it's temp bans only, it's still not a big deal long-term.

I was being tongue-in-cheek with that post. I am solidly against harassment. If these rules help, then I am all for it.

 

[Xorph]

Why not just ban the player from using the chat? Banning them from the game as a whole seems pretty ridiculous.

Some people don't learn unless they get the harshest consequences (and even then, some never learn). And if it's temp bans only, it's still not a big deal long-term.
And if they do get a permanent ban, they deserve it, as far as I am concerned given how often they need to actually be affected in the first place.

I feel like banning them from chat forever -would- be the harshest logical consequence tbh. Extending the ban to the game itself just seems like an unnecessary overstep. Like, imagine if getting banned from the steam forums for a game because you got in a heated argument and called someone some slur or another in turn led to you getting barred from playing the game, you'd have people up in arms because of how tangential the connection is.

 

[Saelune]

Why not just ban the player from using the chat? Banning them from the game as a whole seems pretty ridiculous.

Some people don't learn unless they get the harshest consequences (and even then, some never learn). And if it's temp bans only, it's still not a big deal long-term.
And if they do get a permanent ban, they deserve it, as far as I am concerned given how often they need to actually be affected in the first place.

I feel like banning them from chat forever -would- be the harshest logical consequence tbh. Extending the ban to the game itself just seems like an unnecessary overstep. Like, imagine if getting banned from the steam forums for a game because you got in a heated argument and called someone some slur or another in turn led to you getting barred from playing the game, you'd have people up in arms because of how tangential the connection is.

To get perma-banned, you have to get 24 hour banned, THEN 72 hour banned, THEN week banned. If you havent learned your lession after 10 days and 3 bans, then its your own damn fault.

 

[Xorph]

To get perma-banned, you have to get 24 hour banned, THEN 72 hour banned, THEN week banned. If you havent learned your lession after 10 days and 3 bans, then its your own damn fault.

I'm not disputing that, I'm just saying that the bans in general being full-on game bans as opposed to just chat bans makes very little sense.

 

[Saelune]

To get perma-banned, you have to get 24 hour banned, THEN 72 hour banned, THEN week banned. If you havent learned your lession after 10 days and 3 bans, then its your own damn fault.

I'm not disputing that, I'm just saying that the bans in general being full-on game bans as opposed to just chat bans makes very little sense.

Its about removing people who only seek to be a problem and ruin the game for everyone else.

 

[RaikuFA]

Ps4 player, I just use the d-pad chat.

 

[Neurotic Void Melody]

Didn't realize this even had voice chat. Always stuck to those prewritten responses. Does the job just fine.

 

[Bindal]

To get perma-banned, you have to get 24 hour banned, THEN 72 hour banned, THEN week banned. If you havent learned your lession after 10 days and 3 bans, then its your own damn fault.

I'm not disputing that, I'm just saying that the bans in general being full-on game bans as opposed to just chat bans makes very little sense.

Given that these people need to do it quite often for FOUR times (not just once four times so, but several reports per ban), no, it makes perfect sense to get rid of these people that just refuse to treat fellow players properly. Those don't belong in any community and they were given three chances already. If they didn't learn by then, get rid of them. Because just a chat-ban will cause these people to find alternative methods.

 

[Xorph]

To get perma-banned, you have to get 24 hour banned, THEN 72 hour banned, THEN week banned. If you havent learned your lession after 10 days and 3 bans, then its your own damn fault.

I'm not disputing that, I'm just saying that the bans in general being full-on game bans as opposed to just chat bans makes very little sense.

Its about removing people who only seek to be a problem and ruin the game for everyone else.

Seems like a big assumption to decide that someone who uses slurs is automatically seeking to "ruin the game for everyone else", especially when both ProfMcStevie's post and the in-game mute button exist.

 

[Xorph]

To get perma-banned, you have to get 24 hour banned, THEN 72 hour banned, THEN week banned. If you havent learned your lession after 10 days and 3 bans, then its your own damn fault.

I'm not disputing that, I'm just saying that the bans in general being full-on game bans as opposed to just chat bans makes very little sense.

Given that these people need to do it quite often for FOUR times (not just once four times so, but several reports per ban), no, it makes perfect sense to get rid of these people that just refuse to treat fellow players properly. Those don't belong in any community and they were given three chances already. If they didn't learn by then, get rid of them. Because just a chat-ban will cause these people to find alternative methods.

Alternative methods to what, call people "nigga", "kike", and etc? Because someone insulting people =/= someone griefing people. If someone is disrupting the chat but not the game itself, there's no reason to ban them from the game itself. If they -do- decide to start griefing for whatever reason, then that's an entirely different can of worms and they should be banned accordingly, but banning someone from the game, regardless of whether it's for a day or forever, just because they were swearing in chat, is ridiculous.

You guys seem to be missing that I'm saying -all- of the bans, not just the permanent one, are ridiculous punishments as compared to the crime.

 

[Saelune]

To get perma-banned, you have to get 24 hour banned, THEN 72 hour banned, THEN week banned. If you havent learned your lession after 10 days and 3 bans, then its your own damn fault.

I'm not disputing that, I'm just saying that the bans in general being full-on game bans as opposed to just chat bans makes very little sense.

Its about removing people who only seek to be a problem and ruin the game for everyone else.

Seems like a big assumption to decide that someone who uses slurs is automatically seeking to "ruin the game for everyone else", especially when both ProfMcStevie's post and the in-game mute button exist.

Theres party chat for consoles, discord for PC. If your fun with friends requires you ruining other people's enjoyment, then maybe you and your friends have shitty fun.

Maybe dont need offensive slurs to have fun with friends.

 

[Saelune]

To get perma-banned, you have to get 24 hour banned, THEN 72 hour banned, THEN week banned. If you havent learned your lession after 10 days and 3 bans, then its your own damn fault.

I'm not disputing that, I'm just saying that the bans in general being full-on game bans as opposed to just chat bans makes very little sense.

Given that these people need to do it quite often for FOUR times (not just once four times so, but several reports per ban), no, it makes perfect sense to get rid of these people that just refuse to treat fellow players properly. Those don't belong in any community and they were given three chances already. If they didn't learn by then, get rid of them. Because just a chat-ban will cause these people to find alternative methods.

Alternative methods to what, call people "nigga", "kike", and etc? Because someone insulting people =/= someone griefing people. If someone is disrupting the chat but not the game itself, there's no reason to ban them from the game itself. If they -do- decide to start griefing for whatever reason, then that's an entirely different can of worms and they should be banned accordingly, but banning someone from the game, regardless of whether it's for a day or forever, just because they were swearing in chat, is ridiculous.

You guys seem to be missing that I'm saying -all- of the bans, not just the permanent one, are ridiculous punishments as compared to the crime.

We arent missing what you are saying. We are disagreeing with what you are saying.

I think this system is rather well thought-out. Now Blizzard on the other hand, yeah, I wonder if they are getting carried away, but 4 bans = perma ban seems more than reasonable.

 

[Bindal]

To get perma-banned, you have to get 24 hour banned, THEN 72 hour banned, THEN week banned. If you havent learned your lession after 10 days and 3 bans, then its your own damn fault.

I'm not disputing that, I'm just saying that the bans in general being full-on game bans as opposed to just chat bans makes very little sense.

Given that these people need to do it quite often for FOUR times (not just once four times so, but several reports per ban), no, it makes perfect sense to get rid of these people that just refuse to treat fellow players properly. Those don't belong in any community and they were given three chances already. If they didn't learn by then, get rid of them. Because just a chat-ban will cause these people to find alternative methods.

Alternative methods to what, call people "nigga", "kike", and etc? Because someone insulting people =/= someone griefing people. If someone is disrupting the chat but not the game itself, there's no reason to ban them from the game itself. If they -do- decide to start griefing for whatever reason, then that's an entirely different can of worms and they should be banned accordingly, but banning someone from the game, regardless of whether it's for a day or forever, just because they were swearing in chat, is ridiculous.

You guys seem to be missing that I'm saying -all- of the bans, not just the permanent one, are ridiculous punishments as compared to the crime.

Alternative methods as in "using Steam Profiles or the various console insta-massages to throw out their insults" because a chatban doesn't prevent those.
If you read the article, then those "variant words" are also covered by this new system so that will cause them to be just as banned as before.
And yes, being disruptive in the chat is to be treated the same as other forms - just because you act like a different asshole means you're still an asshole.

Plus, no, we're not missing what you're saying, we flatout disagree with it. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Xorph]

We arent missing what you are saying. We are disagreeing with what you are saying.

I think this system is rather well thought-out. Now Blizzard on the other hand, yeah, I wonder if they are getting carried away, but 4 bans = perma ban seems more than reasonable.

Well, you both seem pretty stuck on the whole "it's okay for the 4th ban to be permanent", which really has nothing to do with what I'm saying.

Again, I'm not arguing that a 4th ban in a row being a permanent one is bad, I'm just saying that all four of these bans should be chat-exclusive, as opposed to the full game. If someone is exclusively abusing the chat system but not actually griefing/hacking/etc, what reason is there to ban them from playing when you can just glue their mouth shut?