152: Identity Of A Decade

ccesarano

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Oh snap, that's already happening!
Anyone that uses weather from a single year to predict the direction of climate and long-term effects happens to be the ignorant one.

Sorry but I'd rather listen to people that know what they're talking about [http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23583376-7583,00.html].

Plus, again, the climate naturally warms and cools, and if we're going to have a climate where the ice caps melt, well, we can only prepare for it as we can't prevent it. Anyone that thinks otherwise needs to read up on what scientists have to say instead of idiotic documentaries.
 

Arbre

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This year, summer is boring, but at least I don't literally get cooked alive in my car.
Ice Age is coming!
 

SamuraiAndPig

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Well said, and a good point about the 2000s, though I think that there is something that this decade will be remembered for: conformity. Every decade has seen its share of break-aways from the social norm: beatnicks in the 50s, hippies in the 60s, disco in the 70s, punks in the 80s, and thugs in the 90s. And these are almost always liked to the media, the popular music, popular fashion, and so on. But the 2000s are interesting because now pop music/fashion/etc. pushes conformity and fitting in over expressing individualsm like the long hair and spiked jackets of yesteryear.

Partly I think it's because nothing shocks us anymore. The kinds of violence and sex that are on prime time television nowadays would have been relegated to NC-17 movies in the 80s, and things like porno and drugs are so commonplace in pop culture (such as Jenna Jameson writing a book) there are few avenues for sixteen year olds to go down when looking for good shock value material. Plus, the fashon trends, at least the ones I see living on a college campus, are less flamobyant and more low-key, modern, and simple.

I think the lesson here is that the social veil of the perfect suburban family has been slowly eroding since the 1950s, and by now it is almost transparent. Now in the 2000s the political veil is coming off, and that is going to be what this decade is remembered for more than its rather pathetic fasion footprint.
 
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ccesarano said:
Sorry but I'd rather listen to people that know what they're talking about [http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23583376-7583,00.html].
That's a good philosophy. So would you reconsider you position if I told you that every reputable association of scientists and climate experts in the world either acknowledges humans are contributing to climate change or, in the case of such vested interests as the American Association of Petroleum Geologists [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change#Statements_by_dissenting_organizations], grudgingly admit that it's a real possibility?

Not everyone agrees, just as not everyone agrees that Neil Armstrong really walked on the moon or that Elvis really died. But the dissenters are a tiny minority, and most of them are geologists (many of whom, although not all, are or have been on oil company payrolls). Virtually all climatologists insist that humans are contributing to climate change.
 
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Fraser.J.A said:
Not everyone agrees, just as not everyone agrees that Neil Armstrong really walked on the moon or that Elvis really died. But the dissenters are a tiny minority, and most of them are geologists (many of whom, although not all, are or have been on oil company payrolls). Virtually all climatologists insist that humans are contributing to climate change.
Whilst I'm assuming all your people think they know what's really happening, I'd have more respect than some scientists that actually understand what's going on and still don't believe in things like Recycling (Almost worthless), Endangered Species (Natural Selection) or Second Hand Smoke (Massively low risk).

Scientists are paid to discover trends, not reality. I can contribute to global warming by turning up my heater, I can also contribute to rising sea levels by spitting into the Ocean.
 
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Being concerned about endangered species isn't about science, it's about compassion. We care for the same reason we care about disease outbreaks: sure if we let the next Plague run unchecked we'll end up with a population of people resistant to it, but a lot of people will die in the process. Sure pandas aren't the most robust creatures, but it makes me sad to think my grandchildren might never be able to meet one.

Recycling is worthless... why? If we don't recycle, where are we going to get plastics once fossil fuels become really scarce? (Whether that's in ten years or three hundred.)

Second hand smoke - well, for my part, I'm less concerned about the health effects than the way other people's cigarettes make my clothes smell bad. Protip: "massively low" is an oxymoron.

Well, since you've now trotted out four fringe-minority scientific views I'm going to stop discussing science with you. Who knows what you'll not believe in next? I wouldn't be surprised if you're a creationist!
 

ralfy

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If what is happening now--global warming leading to more droughts and floods, rising fuel, food, and mineral prices, increasing debts and a financial meltdown, increasing population and demand per capita given increasing numbers becoming part of the middle class worldwide, etc.--continue, then we will probably look back at the decade with nostalgia.
 
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I don't understand the use of "we" in this. Some of us did take the time to have ridiculous photos taken and have fun.

What, am I meant to feel I missed out because my entire generation didn't get to be photographed in impractical flared trousers? So "we" can pat our older wiser selves on the backs when "we" get nostalgic?

No. _I_ had fun. _I_ made memories and friends. By _my_ parameters, I don't even see the need to lump 10 years together into some sort of set for evaluation, but I've had a good time over the last ten years.
 

ENKC

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Erm, I *do* find myself thinking "Oh my god. That's, like, soooo '90s.", albeit worded in a less teenage girl-like manner. The 90s are hugely distinctive. Just take the pop culture associated with grunge, pop punk and Britpop for a start.