154: What Makes a Superhero?

Kovash86

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Plenty of comic writers I like out there, but usually on a comic to comic basis. Adam Warren would be the exception to this, Dirty Pair was funny, I liked Gen 13 and Livewires, and I still like Empowered. The Empowered universe is dark and creepy as hell but it has some of the best pitch-black humor I've ever experienced. Emp herself would be a horrifyingly powerful creature were it not for her psychological disadvantages, imagine a hot girl version of Hal Jordan placed into a universe where the most powerful guy is physically inferior to Spiderman, admittedly being inferior to Spidey is no big deal it is a big deal when you are the strongest dude on the planet, which is heavy on supers.
 

brazuca

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I'm the opposite of you Pedro, I prefer characters like Punisher. The more dark and gritty the more the character is interesting. Not like realism-naturalism, more like modernism.
 

PedroSteckecilo

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brazuca said:
I'm the opposite of you Pedro, I prefer characters like Punisher. The more dark and gritty the more the character is interesting. Not like realism-naturalism, more like modernism.
I disagree, I find the Punisher, especially at his best/worst is darker than he needs to be, and is a litte too much a focus for Garth Ennis's love of gore-porn and his heavy handed commentary on American culture rather than being a 'deep character'. I really enjoyed his Marvel Knights take on the Punisher, but it still suffers from these same flaws.

Though The Punisher is still better than anything produced by Mark Millar, since that tone fits The Punisher well and he would be odd without it.
 

Kovash86

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Mark Millar is responsible for what I consider the worst travesty every inflicted on the Marvel universe, he ruined Marvel for me with Civil War. I personally would probably try to cause him and Joe Q physical harm were I to see them in person, it would be a knee-jerk response too, I dropped all of my Marvel titles except Ultimate Spider-man and Spider Girl (because Ultimate Spidey is written incredible well despite it being Bendis behind the wheel, and Speder-girl is fairly well written as well, although some of the recent stories I'm finding hard to read) mostly because they murdered my characters, Spidey would never reveal his identity to the world, nor would he make a deal with Mephisto, I mean he has spoken directly to god before why would he bother? Rhetorical question. They crapped all over him.
 

brazuca

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After Civil War (who just finished this month here, published by Panini) I stopped with Knights. Only Max Editions, right now I'm read Born and some books and mangas.

Yes you are right about the Punisher, still for whoever wants to start reading about darker "heroes" need to get at least one punisher issue.
 

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Boondock Saints was an exception. they certainly didn't think they were damning themselves. that exception to the formula made the movie exceptional.