Google Continues To Take Heat For Street View

Logan Westbrook

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Google Continues To Take Heat For Street View


Controversy continues to follow Google's Street View application, as UK residents continue to worry about privacy.

In the Milton Keynes suburb of Broughton, residents blocked the driver of Google Street View car as he started to take pictures of their homes, accusing him of invading their privacy and 'facilitating crime'.

Police were called to the scene, and a spokesperson for Thames Valley Police said: "A squad car was sent to Broughton at 1020 BST on Wednesday to reports of a dispute between a crowd of people and a Google Street View contractor."

"A member of the public had called us to report that he, along with a number of others, were standing in the middle of the road preventing the car from moving forwards and taking photographs. They felt his presence was an intrusion of their privacy. When police arrived at the scene, the car had moved on," he continued.

Councillor John Bint said that the camera was intrusive and people should have been consulted. "When a scene is viewed from street level it is acceptable but this camera is intrusive because it can peer into gardens and into the windows of homes. That is a step too far and Google should stop taking pictures in this way. They should consult with residents about what exactly they are going to do and provide a right of appeal."

Broughton resident Paul Jacobs, who, along with neighbour John Holmes, was the first to confront the Google driver, told the BBC, "I don't have a problem with Google wanting to promote villages. What I have a problem with is the invasion of privacy, taking pictures directly into the home," he said, "Google have taken a tremendous liberty in the way they've gone about it. If they were simply going to view the street as a street scene rather than drive almost into people's drives and take pictures of the houses - I think that's a different issue.".

Mr Holmes is even less enamoured with Google's new service, wanting Street View out of his area entirely. "An Englishman's home is his castle," he said.

This isn't the first time that Google has had to defend itself [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/90357] from this sort of accusation. Google spokesperson Peter Barron said the system contained "simple tools" which allowed people to remove images of their house. "Many, many millions of people have used the service very happily, and it's proved very useful... but we do recognise that a small minority of people won't feel comfortable about it."

Source: BBC [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/7980737.stm]

Image [http://www.flickr.com/photos/byrion/2666901841/]



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Nimbus

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I'm going to have to side with Google on this one. If you don't want people to see into your home, close the curtains and leave them closed.
 

Cadarn_N7

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That is a ridiculous statement. People walking past on the street is completely different from the world being able to view your house via google earth. Obviously hardly anyone will do so and it's not a penetrating all-revealing view but I completely understand their viewpoint. It's their home after all. Close their curtains? Why should they have to?
 

Skrapt

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OK I'm getting a little pissed off at these people now, you're only JUST NOW complaining? About a service that takes pictures of a street and allows you to look at them and have them removed if you feel they breach your privacy. You're only just now complaining about privacy after the government has spent billions putting CCTV cameras absolutely everywhere and anywhere and proposing about a thousand different schemes/laws so they would be able to store all calls/texts/emails/web visits from everyone in the UK in one place.

Seriously can't these people go make a fuss over a real problem?
 

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Apparently a woman has filed divorce proceedings after spotting her husband's car outsid a friend's house on Street View, despite the fact he claimed to be on a 'business trip' at the time.

I'm not sure if she knows that the photos aren't updated daily.
 

llewgriff

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It's another thing for people to moan about, they don't really care or understand, I've used street veiw and I couldn't see inside anyone's house, the worst thing I saw was a guy mooning the camera. On a side note John Holmes should change his first name to Sherlock,how badass would that be?
 

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I agree with my fellow Englishmen to an extent, imagine someone wishes to burgle your house, they don't even need to go to the building to scope the place out, they just have a look at Google. The extra level of convenience makes it even easier for criminals to plot and scheme to their diabolical ends.

Also, this isn't the same as CCTV, it isn't a bunch of indifferent government personnel who may be miffed if you do something actively illegal if they see or care, this is every single person in the world with an internet connection, anyone, with any agenda, can view the exterior of your home, pretty much the only realm of personal space you're left with, in this day and age.
 

Nimbus

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Social Pariah said:
I agree with my fellow Englishmen to an extent, imagine someone wishes to burgle your house, they don't even need to go to the building to scope the place out, they just have a look at Google, in many pictures you can even see through their windows. The extra level of convenience makes it even easier for criminals.

Also, this isn't the same as CCTV, it isn't a bunch of indifferent government personal who may be miffed if you do something actively illegal if they see or care, this is every single person in the world, anyone with any agenda can view the outside and peep in to your house, pretty much the only personal space you're left with, in this day and age.
Anyone with a pair of legs could just walk by your house. Anyone with a cameraphone can take pictures. "Convienience" for criminals should never, ever be a factor when considering whether something shouold be allowed or not.

I mean, maps make it easier for criminals to find their targets. Should maps be outlawed?
 

MarsProbe

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I also have to side with google on this one. They're hardly coming into your house and filming you in your sleep, are they?

Also, it's not like they're streaming live footage of your street or anything. This is the UK, so it really wouldn't surprise me if these people are naive enough to think there will be a live feed of their street up on google that would be criminals will use to check when their not at home so they can rob their house.

It is quite telling that this happened at 1020 on a weekday, so I'm making an educated guess that the people causing the commotion didn't have any work or studies to go to. When you don't have anything to do with your time, you as may well find something trivial to moan about.
 

Social Pariah

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Nimbus said:
Social Pariah said:
I agree with my fellow Englishmen to an extent, imagine someone wishes to burgle your house, they don't even need to go to the building to scope the place out, they just have a look at Google, in many pictures you can even see through their windows. The extra level of convenience makes it even easier for criminals.

Also, this isn't the same as CCTV, it isn't a bunch of indifferent government personal who may be miffed if you do something actively illegal if they see or care, this is every single person in the world, anyone with any agenda can view the outside and peep in to your house, pretty much the only personal space you're left with, in this day and age.
Anyone with a pair of legs could just walk by your house. Anyone with a camera phone can take pictures. "Convenience" for criminals should never, ever be a factor when considering whether something should be allowed or not.

I mean, maps make it easier for criminals to find their targets. Should maps be outlawed?
Maps don't show the fine details of the exterior of your house, that's simply a stupid comparison, maps actually provide a useful means of navigation, what does this provide exactly? Besides the ability to gawk at peoples houses? Exactly what situation do you need to be in to require the street level views in the first place?

Yes, they could go to your house and take pictures, but with this they don't have to expend any effort at all, at least some bloke running around your house taking pictures may arouse some suspicion. As it is, they already have all the necessary resources.
 

Cadarn_N7

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Nimbus: Only people living locally are likely to and a person taking pictures of random houses is likely to get noticed. Pretty conspicuous. Are you also saying weapon licenses shouldn't be considered as they're largely meant to prevent criminals easily gaining firearms?

I just think that as it's their home they have a right to privacy.
 

Tony Harrison

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Some people need to have something to be ignorant and angry about. They also have an inflated opinion of themselves. They don't seem to realise that while their house may be visible, to everyone else in the world it doesn't even have an identity.
 

Nimbus

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Cadarn_N7 said:
Nimbus: Only people living locally are likely to and a person taking pictures of random houses is likely to get noticed. Pretty conspicuous. Are you also saying weapon licenses shouldn't be considered as they're largely meant to prevent criminals easily gaining firearms?

I just think that as it's their home they have a right to privacy.
Streetview only takes pictures of things that are in plain sight. You're correct in saying that everyone has the right to privacy, but if you are doing something in plain sight, then you are not really taking advantage of that right, are you?

Also, in responce to Social Pariah, as I can't be bothered quoting, I would find it very useful for navagation. There have been a few times when I was looking at a shop on a map, but couldn't (a) find where I was on said map and (b) had trouble getting to the shop because I had no point of reference. I would have loved to have something like streetview in those situations. Not everyone has map-reading skills.

And also, does it really matter? If there really are no practical uses to this then people won't use it and Google will give up on it. Simple as.
 

Cadarn_N7

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Cousin IT: Brilliant contribution.

Harrison: It's more of the fact that it has great identity to them that motivates them.

Nimbus: I just think if you got some person taking photos of your home and possibly what you are doing in that home you'd go out and confront them. Especially if you somehow knew they were going on the internet. But a big corporation doing it from a car is fine? I'm not trying to be confrontational or anything just putting forward my view, it's more the principal of the matter that annoys me.
 

Insomniaku

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Google is 100% right on this one... for one there is that option to delete the pictures of your house... and asides from that it is (and has been for some time now) easier for a psychopath to walk down the street and target a specific house... rather than go online find someone's house half way across the country, travel to said house and then commit whatever deeds it is they were going to do in the first place.
 

nova18

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Actually yeah Im with the people complaining.

Whilst there is a way to remove the images of your house, not everyone has access to the internet. Just as not everyone will know if one of these googlecars are going to be taking photos of their house, so they wont be able to shut their curtains.

As a country, we have a ridiculous amount of CCTV and surveillance tools watching us as it is, this is one additional invasion into our privacy.