Lionhead's #1 Revolutionary is Joan of Arc

John Funk

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Lionhead's #1 Revolutionary is Joan of Arc



Finishing up Lionhead Studio's teaser countdown to Wednesday's press event is famous French warrior Joan of Arc.

I can honestly say I Joan of Arc [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/93942-Lionheads-Revolutionaries-Abe-Lincoln-Aristotle-Emma-Goldman]. Her quote: "I am not afraid... I was born to do this."

So, that makes the list (in order): Che Guevara, Maximilien Robespierre, Abraham Lincoln, Aristotle, Emma Goldman, and Joan of Arc. I have to admit, it looks like my initial thoughts - that more than just acknowledging revolutions in history, the list was giving the nod to famous revolutionaries - weren't entirely on the money. Guevara, Robespierre, Goldman and d'Arc would fit that bill, but the other two, not so much.

The presence of Aristotle (founder of Western philosophy) and Joan d'Arc (first prominent female warrior as well as a rebel against the English rule of France) would seem to suggest that beyond mere revolutionaries, the list is meant to celebrate world-shakers, the people who change paradigms. But the odd one out here would then be Honest Abe. While considered by many to have been a great President in his own right, Lincoln suppressed a revolution instead of inciting one.

In fact, historical badass or no, the more I think about it the more Lincoln seems out of place on this list. How does he fit with the others, the "world-shakers"? Lincoln did precisely the opposite - he (mostly) preserved the status quo.

Either way, we'll find out tomorrow what Peter Molyneux has in store, and how exactly it ties into the list we've seen over the past few days.

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PedroSteckecilo

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Ah, so then all of this "Revolutionary" stuff is just BS rhetoric... as expected I suppose.

But with Quotes like that I'd put money on Fable 3.
 

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Well, I wouldn't say 'English occupation of France' as the English king claimed the throne of France, but the fools rejected him, heh.

Anywho, not a clue what this is about, but given its Lionhead with Peter Molyneux, I suspect it'll be a good game, just WAY too overhyped.
 

John Funk

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Doug said:
Well, I wouldn't say 'English occupation of France' as the English king claimed the throne of France, but the fools rejected him, heh.

Anywho, not a clue what this is about, but given its Lionhead with Peter Molyneux, I suspect it'll be a good game, just WAY too overhyped.
Good point. Changed to something a bit more historically accurate. :)
 
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CantFaketheFunk said:
Doug said:
Well, I wouldn't say 'English occupation of France' as the English king claimed the throne of France, but the fools rejected him, heh.

Anywho, not a clue what this is about, but given its Lionhead with Peter Molyneux, I suspect it'll be a good game, just WAY too overhyped.
Good point. Changed to something a bit more historically accurate. :)
Or perhaps they will be cameos in his new game
 

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I thought that William Willberforce, would have been on their instead of Lincoln after all he started taking action against slavery (some time in the late 1700's) before Lincoln was even born. still a lot of people worth remembering in that list.
 

El Poncho

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Maybe we should look at the quotes instead of the people that might indicate the game.
 
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For all we know it's going to be a fighting game between revolutionaries. That would be awesome. Che vs Washington vs Castro vs Lenin in a Texas Death-match!
 
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KAPTAINmORGANnWo4life said:
For all we know it's going to be a fighting game between revolutionaries. That would be awesome. Che vs Washington vs Castro vs Lenin in a Texas Death-match!
Sunday night: Churchill vs FDR in a cage match


The Infamous Scamola said:
He abolished slavery in all of the U.S.A., how is that "preserving the status quo"?
Well, he did reuinite the U.S., which is what everyone wanted. And he was "the man", putting down a revolution.

Thats all I can think of.
 

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Damn, if it wasn't for Emma Goldman, I would have had this figured out... take her out of the pictures, and all of them were either assassinated or executed.

EDIT: Wait, overlooked Aristotle. Was he either of those? Either way, moot point.
 
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Irridium said:
The Infamous Scamola said:
He abolished slavery in all of the U.S.A., how is that "preserving the status quo"?
Well, he did reuinite the U.S., which is what everyone wanted. And he was "the man", putting down a revolution.

Thats all I can think of.
But he freed the slaves. Although, at that point, pretty much every other country on the face of the earth had done it, so maybe... eh.
 

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I'm starting to think this might be some sort of spiritual sequel to Black & White and Populous, except your a revolutionary rather than a god.

Just a theory. I loved the first B&W, I hope it is. Could protentially be the first great game made by Lionhead since the original Fable.

Most lightly it's Fable 3, but I'm keeping fingers crossed for a new IP. It's too soon for one thing.
 

Archemetis

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Finally! It's been explained what was going on with the Lionhead Website!

I asked the question when it was still Che on the front page...
But no one had any insightful (or even relevant) contribution to what it was supposed to mean.

Now that I've looked at this article, I'm inclined to think it's gonna be Fable 3.
I mean, These people are "ground shakers" what is your character in Fable if not a ground shaker?

Or it could be that "Secret project" they've been working on for a while now...
(The one you can only hear about if you've applied for pay-free games testing at the actual studio, which I was so tempted to do).
 

John Funk

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The Infamous Scamola said:
Irridium said:
The Infamous Scamola said:
He abolished slavery in all of the U.S.A., how is that "preserving the status quo"?
Well, he did reuinite the U.S., which is what everyone wanted. And he was "the man", putting down a revolution.

Thats all I can think of.
But he freed the slaves. Although, at that point, pretty much every other country on the face of the earth had done it, so maybe... eh.
That's the part that I get hung up on. Yes, he freed the slaves - revolutionary for the US, but not for the rest of the world - but he also was involved in suppressing the South's attempt at their own revolution, keeping the nation together (which would be preserving the status quo).
 
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CantFaketheFunk said:
That's the part that I get hung up on. Yes, he freed the slaves - revolutionary for the US, but not for the rest of the world - but he also was involved in suppressing the South's attempt at their own revolution, keeping the nation together (which would be preserving the status quo).
Eh, he wore a top hat, and could've been a wrestler if he wanted to. He deserves a mention for being revolutionarily badass.
 

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CantFaketheFunk said:
But the odd one out here would then be Honest Abe.
Well, he was the greatest sorcerer of all time, so who knows what he got up to before and after he was President.
 

John Funk

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ZeroMachine said:
Damn, if it wasn't for Emma Goldman, I would have had this figured out... take her out of the pictures, and all of them were either assassinated or executed.

EDIT: Wait, overlooked Aristotle. Was he either of those? Either way, moot point.
Aristotle died of natural causes, I believe. You might be thinking of Socrates.