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Ummm I'm more of an D&D guy, what kind of "angelic"? spell in FF-verse has the effect/side-effect of disintegrate/sublimate crystals?
 

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enginieri said:
Ummm I'm more of an D&D guy, what kind of "angelic"? spell in FF-verse has the effect/side-effect of disintegrate/sublimate crystals?
I am guessing they are going for the Great Gospel from FFVII. I do not remember if it healed status effects though if it did I guess crystal possession is just a status effect?

 

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enginieri said:
Ummm I'm more of an D&D guy, what kind of "angelic"? spell in FF-verse has the effect/side-effect of disintegrate/sublimate crystals?
It could be Esuna.
 

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I'm going to bet it's meant to be a healing spell, but she messes up so everyone gets sick and throws up instead.
 

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ChaplainOrion said:
I'm going to bet it's meant to be a healing spell, but she messes up so everyone gets sick and throws up instead.
So long as the end result is the same I don't think it will matter too much if she buggers it up.
 

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Prime_Hunter_H01 said:
enginieri said:
Ummm I'm more of an D&D guy, what kind of "angelic"? spell in FF-verse has the effect/side-effect of disintegrate/sublimate crystals?
I am guessing they are going for the Great Gospel from FFVII. I do not remember if it healed status effects though if it did I guess crystal possession is just a status effect?
Well, the comic already riffs on FFVII a lot anyway, so I'm pretty sure that is indeed a Great Gospel expy, minus the rain.

And yeah, IIRC, Great Gospel fully heals HP and MP, removes all bad status effects, revives all KO'd party members and gives temporary invincibility.
 

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What happens to Bad Guy and Gunny if the crystal elements are burned out of them - they've both got pretty serious, nay life threatening injuries that seem to be sustained by the crystal power...
 

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Heartless Angel maybe? As a healer she's messed up enough to be casting Boss Nukes
 

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Chimpzy said:
Prime_Hunter_H01 said:
enginieri said:
Ummm I'm more of an D&D guy, what kind of "angelic"? spell in FF-verse has the effect/side-effect of disintegrate/sublimate crystals?
I am guessing they are going for the Great Gospel from FFVII. I do not remember if it healed status effects though if it did I guess crystal possession is just a status effect?
Well, the comic already riffs on FFVII a lot anyway, so I'm pretty sure that is indeed a Great Gospel expy, minus the rain.

And yeah, IIRC, Great Gospel fully heals HP and MP, removes all bad status effects, revives all KO'd party members and gives temporary invincibility.
Also, to clarify to enginieri, Great Gospel is a type of attack called a Limit Break. It just means that it's a special type of attack that usually takes multiple battles to charge a single use. Just wanted to clear it up, in case it sounded too overpowered to make any sort of sense.
 

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Prime_Hunter_H01 said:
enginieri said:
Ummm I'm more of an D&D guy, what kind of "angelic"? spell in FF-verse has the effect/side-effect of disintegrate/sublimate crystals?
I am guessing they are going for the Great Gospel from FFVII. I do not remember if it healed status effects though if it did I guess crystal possession is just a status effect?

That's a bit of a paradox. Gods in FF are traditionally villains, yet angels, servants of the abrahamic god, are good. Where is the logic in that?
 

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Based on the blue bits floating off Rad and the soldier heads, it looks like she's already pulling all the crystal out of the people, possibly with some sort of restoration spell? That seems rather direct and anti-climactic. Based on the title, I thought they were going to try something like using her fire magic to create a strobe effect that made everyone nauseous and vomit as well.
 

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CyanCat47 said:
That's a bit of a paradox. Gods in FF are traditionally villains, yet angels, servants of the abrahamic god, are good. Where is the logic in that?
Because it looks cool.

Christianity is not that common in Japan so a lot of times it's symbolism is just used to have a striking visual effect. An image of angels bathing someone in light may be striking but not have as much immediate meaning to them as to us. Similar to how you could show someone from the West some art of events in Buddhism and it may look amazing and inspire a want to recreate that image, though if you are not familiar with that culture most of its meaning will be lost on you.
 

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Prime_Hunter_H01 said:
CyanCat47 said:
That's a bit of a paradox. Gods in FF are traditionally villains, yet angels, servants of the abrahamic god, are good. Where is the logic in that?
Because it looks cool.

Christianity is not that common in Japan so a lot of times it's symbolism is just used to have a striking visual effect. An image of angels bathing someone in light may be striking but not have as much immediate meaning to them as to us. Similar to how you could show someone from the West some art of events in Buddhism and it may look amazing and inspire a want to recreate that image, though if you are not familiar with that culture most of its meaning will be lost on you.
To Quote Terry Pratchett 'Wisdom is one of the few things that looks bigger the further away it is.'

As the great philosopher Mrs. Cosmopolite says, "There's a lot goes on we don't know about, in my opinion."
 

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This looks like a mythological reference that I've never heard of. Flying people with wings in white clothing and Roman sandals playing a harp and emanating light looks like Western-Christian angels. Angel light pulling evil crystal entities from people? Never heard of anything like that and I'm a Westerner.
 

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CyanCat47 said:
That's a bit of a paradox. Gods in FF are traditionally villains, yet angels, servants of the abrahamic god, are good. Where is the logic in that?
I mean this is the series where the majority of games have you taking directions from crystals, I think they are way past logic here

In reality though I think its more of a design choice then anything, FF7's world doesn't even have gods, just a living aether that flows though the planet. Also I don't think FF7 sees all angels as good, especially the one winged ones
 

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Hey!!! It was the baddies turn, and they barely move (in a not so large room) and nothing else, are you sure Grey that all of them used all their actions before our lovely pyrohealer started casting "mass exorcism"?
 

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enginieri said:
Ummm I'm more of an D&D guy, what kind of "angelic"? spell in FF-verse has the effect/side-effect of disintegrate/sublimate crystals?
Presumably one that makes everyone vomit...

...Or shit themselves.
 

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enginieri said:
Ummm I'm more of an D&D guy, what kind of "angelic"? spell in FF-verse has the effect/side-effect of disintegrate/sublimate crystals?
if I had to guess this is a limit break or summon heal which tend to work a lot like wish does when you use it to heal in 2.5.
 

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Fijiman said:
ChaplainOrion said:
I'm going to bet it's meant to be a healing spell, but she messes up so everyone gets sick and throws up instead.
So long as the end result is the same I don't think it will matter too much if she buggers it up.
You saw Rad whisper in her ear, so that will be the intended effect.
 

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Chimpzy said:
Prime_Hunter_H01 said:
enginieri said:
Ummm I'm more of an D&D guy, what kind of "angelic"? spell in FF-verse has the effect/side-effect of disintegrate/sublimate crystals?
I am guessing they are going for the Great Gospel from FFVII. I do not remember if it healed status effects though if it did I guess crystal possession is just a status effect?
Well, the comic already riffs on FFVII a lot anyway, so I'm pretty sure that is indeed a Great Gospel expy, minus the rain.

And yeah, IIRC, Great Gospel fully heals HP and MP, removes all bad status effects, revives all KO'd party members and gives temporary invincibility.
Makes sence, since vomiting is a Nature's "Poisona".
 

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That is the most optimistic person I've ever seen wearing a puke hat.
 

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Looks like I'll be bookmarking a new site for this series. I wonder if this is the last one or if one more will be released on Monday.
 

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Anyone know where to follow Grey now?

His website hasn't been updated since 2014
His twitter hasn't been updated since January
His Patreon hasn't been updated since February
And Dyingalone.net is actually behind the escapist for updates
 

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Quellist said:
Anyone know where to follow Grey now?

His twitter hasn't been updated since January
I think you're thinking of his pinned tweet (from January), which shows up first on the feed. Look under. Guy is on Twitter all day, every day. And he mentioned dyingalone.net a few days ago.
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:
Quellist said:
Anyone know where to follow Grey now?

His twitter hasn't been updated since January
I think you're thinking of his pinned tweet (from January), which shows up first on the feed. Loook under. Guy is on Twitter all day, every day. And he mentioned dyingalone.net a few days ago.
Ahh thanks, I missed that!
 

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The next comic is up over at: http://dyingalone.net/archives/comic/172-healing
How crappy would it be to discuss it here on The Escapist? Probably pretty crappy.
 

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Clankenbeard said:
The next comic is up over at: http://dyingalone.net/archives/comic/172-healing
How crappy would it be to discuss it here on The Escapist? Probably pretty crappy.
Too bad there is no forums or comments on dyingalone.net or else we would have discussed it there.

So, my question is, why is Rad puking crystals when he never drank them in the first place?
 

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youngstormlord said:
Clankenbeard said:
The next comic is up over at: http://dyingalone.net/archives/comic/172-healing
How crappy would it be to discuss it here on The Escapist? Probably pretty crappy.
Too bad there is no forums or comments on dyingalone.net or else we would have discussed it there.

So, my question is, why is Rad puking crystals when he never drank them in the first place?
Good question. Same question applied to the Crystal Corp President who is also about to toss his cookies. Perhaps Rad accidentally swallowed some of Erin's vomit. That's a pretty gross thought.
 

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Clankenbeard said:
The next comic is up over at: http://dyingalone.net/archives/comic/172-healing
How crappy would it be to discuss it here on The Escapist? Probably pretty crappy.
Let's do that, then. =D

Since there isn't a forum or Disquis on the site, let's use THIS page to comment, shall we? =)

Well done, Althea. Clever girl. Not sure how Sarge is going to be..."purified" of his crystals. Helmet.
 

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ArcaneGamer said:
http://dyingalone.net/archives/comic/174-secret-weapon

Weaponized stupid for the win! =D
Finally, a solution to a problem that I feel I could have realistically contributed to.
 

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Metalrocks said:
i was wondering what has happened. thanks for the link.
No problem.

Holy crap, final form. I wonder if Sarge will be ok after this. Also, why DIDN'T you do something then?
 

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Mikeybb said:
ArcaneGamer said:
http://dyingalone.net/archives/comic/174-secret-weapon

Weaponized stupid for the win! =D
Finally, a solution to a problem that I feel I could have realistically contributed to.
http://dyingalone.net/archives/comic/180-surprise-attack



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