2000's- the rip off years

[Unmannedperson]

I dunno. I think TF2 was a HUGE improvement over the old, specifically, the omission of grenades, and the easy character identifiability. Plus it's been over a decade since the original. Also, Civ4 I think was a good update to an old series, and StarCraft 2 looks like it will at least be almost like a new game, not just "oh hey we added 2 units and updated the graphics" that pisses me off about other sequels.

As for movies, too many sequels.

And for music, I dunno about you, but it really pisses me off when a modern artist uses the same melody as an artist from, say the 80's and kids think that the new artist is the original creator of the music. Two bright, shining examples that really irks me:
-That crap "Vanilla Ice" song that almost exactly copies the 80's song whose title I can't quite remember...
-And that "If I Were a Rich Girl" that rips off "If I Were a Rich Man" from "Fiddler on the Roof," an interesting play about Jews in 1930's Russia.

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

Technically the 90s are almost as good as all other ages if we are going by music. Nevermind by nirvana sold 17 million albums and its just shy of the beatles which is in Number 1.

 

[CancerDog]

Capitalism and the Lack of Intelligent or even functioning parents pretty much describes why I have no hopes of seeing any positive progress in anything to do with media. Things getting better would require work from an entire generation, but so far all the most recent generations only have intentions of being spoiled/lazy and fucking everyone else over for their own personal whims. Its going to take another World War or catastrophic event before people start to realize that 90% of our Offspring are completely lazy tards and are so materialistic and shallow that they'd sell their own baby/grandmother/sperm/eggs to afford the newest Iphone or the next Halo Title.

Getting all the way off topic, I have a less than optimistic view of the world, so I'm going to start referencing Yahtzee's system of assuming everything is shit until a "Certificate of not Shit" is produced.

/End Rant on why everything to do with Media from now on is going to suck.

 

[Arcticflame]

Songs? Kids today don't even know how much of their music is 'sampled' or remade. Movies? This year alone most everything has been a remake or a sequel. Have we lost our creative sparks? Is our culture becoming stagnant while we wallow in our 'greatness'. We were taught not to plagiarize in school, but aren't we plagiarizing the 80's and 90's?

That's the 90's. I think music has actually -dare I say- got better since the 90's, it's still not as good as it was 20-30 years ago, but the 90's was a bad decade for music if there ever was one.

Not so. 2000s are even worse. You want proof? I give you - Stars Are Blind by Paris Hilton (No, I'm not gonna link it, it would be worse than a goatse).

That doesn't count as music.

 

[Random Argument Man]

Movies have gotten longer, too.

They used to be about 90 minutes, now they're about two hours.

Wow thirty minutes......HUGEEEEEE DIFFERENCE.

I would like to point the constant Superhero movies

Now for the Batman argument, I would actually rename "the Dark Knight" to "the Joker"...Because anything else in the movie was boring.

 

[R4V3N 22]

CIts going to take another World War or catastrophic event before people start to realize that 90% of our Offspring are completely lazy tards and are so materialistic and shallow that they'd sell their own baby/grandmother/sperm/eggs to afford the newest Iphone or the next Halo Title.

I have friends that donate sperm for research. They get paid AU$15 a pop. Which is about 13-14 dollar US dollars depending on the currency rate. And they are not spoiled or lazy, they are normal people. Stop being all post-modern art student and learn not to assume people are stereotypes. /End Counter-Rant


Anyway, I don't mind sequels if they do them right. Such as adding something new to the series or allowing new gamers to get into the series. eg. What Starcraft 2 is capable of.

 

[Gene O]

How to say this... ripping off ideas was done by someone else first.

Broadway is stealing ideas from Hollywood but that's alright since Hollywood's been stealing ideas from Broadway for at least 60 years. Old science fiction movies pillaged 19th century novels for their stories and Charles Dickens complained about the lack of copyright law in the U.S. in the early 1800's since so many people were ripping off his work. If you go back several hundred years, creating completely original ideas wasn't even something people aspired to do; it was considered much more artistic to contribute to an existing idea. At the time, the Renaissance wasn't about new ideas, it was a celebration of the discovery of old ones.

With this in mind, I'd encourage everyone to view the annual summer sequalfest at the movies and the increasing number of games with 'IV' (or higher) in the title not as a sign of stagnating imagination but as a symptom of capitalism (and greed if your a whiny left-wing socialist... like me.)

 

[Furrama]

Songs? Kids today don't even know how much of their music is 'sampled' or remade. Movies? This year alone most everything has been a remake or a sequel. Have we lost our creative sparks? Is our culture becoming stagnant while we wallow in our 'greatness'. We were taught not to plagiarize in school, but aren't we plagiarizing the 80's and 90's?

That's the 90's. I think music has actually -dare I say- got better since the 90's, it's still not as good as it was 20-30 years ago, but the 90's was a bad decade for music if there ever was one.

Not so. 2000s are even worse. You want proof? I give you - Stars Are Blind by Paris Hilton (No, I'm not gonna link it, it would be worse than a goatse).

That doesn't count as music.

Indeed.... But hey, it's better than... no wait. Never mind.

 

[Arntor]

I've always lived by the idea that for every single great thing, there will always be a steaming pile of turd surrounding it and you'll need a gas mask and a shovel to find it. The truly amazing and mind-blowing will always be difficult to discover, maybe even more so in our modern era.

Here's a problem I've encountered:
Some "critics" are too busy constantly restating what a pile of crap something was even though there is no need to restate it, because we have heard it restated a million times and all it seems to become is a bunch of critics trying to give off the impression that they're vitriolic and "edgy" (Well, Yahtzee does this, but that's his job and he doesn't have a choice in whatever he's reviewing most of the time). For example, I used to lurk on this terrible poetry forum/community/group thingy on Xanga a few years ago and every time a decent writer would ask for some critique, they hardly got any. If they did, the post count is dwarfed by the amount of replies to anything posted by someone who is obviously incompetent. In come the grammar Nazis ready to lay down the law...repeatedly...for a whole hour. It wasn't even critique, it was just a plain circle jerk of insults. All while that one decent writer who at least has a grasp of sentence structure is left in the dark.

Yes, I was one of such. I never got any replies and I am left very bitter by that whole experience. It may be just that one community, but still, this behavior disturbs me. My solution is to wade through all the mediocrity and let it die. I've experienced it, I don't like it, I'll move on, give me the next dish.

Nowadays, it's very rare to see something good get the recognition it deserves outside of the film industry and even then there's a bunch of copycats ready to leech off the innovation. Right now, I think it's logical if we follow what should be called "Yahtzee's Law" by now and wait for something to impress us. Heck, I've been following that line of thought since 1999.

 

[Furrama]

I've always lived by the idea that for every single great thing, there will always be a steaming pile of turd surrounding it and you'll need a gas mask and a shovel to find it. The truly amazing and mind-blowing will always be difficult to discover, maybe even more so in our modern era.

Here's a problem I've encountered:
Some "critics" are too busy constantly restating what a pile of crap something was even though there is no need to restate it, because we have heard it restated a million times and all it seems to become is a bunch of critics trying to give off the impression that they're vitriolic and "edgy" (Well, Yahtzee does this, but that's his job and he doesn't have a choice in whatever he's reviewing most of the time). For example, I used to lurk on this terrible poetry forum/community/group thingy on Xanga a few years ago and every time a decent writer would ask for some critique, they hardly got any. If they did, the post count is dwarfed by the amount of replies to anything posted by someone who is obviously incompetent. In come the grammar Nazis ready to lay down the law...repeatedly...for a whole hour. It wasn't even critique, it was just a plain circle jerk of insults. All while that one decent writer who at least has a grasp of sentence structure is left in the dark.

Yes, I was one of such. I never got any replies and I am left very bitter by that whole experience. It may be just that one community, but still, this behavior disturbs me. My solution is to wade through all the mediocrity and let it die. I've experienced it, I don't like it, I'll move on, give me the next dish.

Nowadays, it's very rare to see something good get the recognition it deserves outside of the film industry and even then there's a bunch of copycats ready to leech off the innovation. Right now, I think it's logical if we follow what should be called "Yahtzee's Law" by now and wait for something to impress us. Heck, I've been following that line of thought since 1999.

I'm not terribly familiar with the Xanga Poetry thing... but wherever you post your creative works someone will be there to rain on your parade. Or completely ignore you. It takes a lot of work and dedication to get people to notice you and give you helpful feedback. It's like growing a plant, you have to water it and care for it... weed it every once in a while. Deviant Art has a pretty good poetry community, try posting there. People there tend to have a better mindset about critiquing than the MySpace. I mean Xanga >_> But you gotta get on the forums, critique other's works, and try not to laugh at some of the preteens that have snuck onto the site

 

[CyberAkuma]

If you think that the videogame industry is running out of fresh ideas just look at the movie industry...

The fake Pac Man Movie Trailer [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWL6j0SvqV0] and the Mine Sweeper Trailer [http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1770138] are self-explanitory enough to amplify the mockery of making movies of old videogames.

The rip-offs and remakes that have been done by the videogame industy doesn't hold a candle to the total lack of imagination among script-writers and producers in the Hollywood movie industry.

 

[Aginor27]

I know that an established fan base and story will bring in the core fans for the pocket rape, but is that any excuse for the amount of sequels? We're up to Fallout what now

This statement confuses me. 3 games in a series isn't really that many.

 

[Erana]

Songs? Kids today don't even know how much of their music is 'sampled' or remade.

Europe makes everything sound better. *listens to Royksopp and the Knife*
You can't exactly compare music to games or movies, though. The thing about more visual media is that if you have something that really touches the audience, its really hard to change things without making the delicate equation come out wrong.
Its like algebra.
Sometimes, its like adding two to the equation of 4=4, but other times its like adding a "-" to the equation of 1^2=1^2. -1^2 is the same as 1^2. Then you have a timeless story on your hands.

Music is a lot less universal. Some people love the banjo. Others despise it.