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Am I the only person who's lost their interest in TLoU2? That trailer just felt like another revenge movie where the bad guys kill (daughter, girlfriend, wife, mother, etc etc) and the hero goes on a murder spree.

It's become a huge MEH for me. I mean the gameplay will probably still be really great. But I dunno I just feel removed from the story now.
 

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CritialGaming said:
That trailer just felt like another revenge movie where the bad guys kill (daughter, girlfriend, wife, mother, etc etc) and the hero goes on a murder spree.
In this case it looks like Ellie's Lesbian Partner that got raped and killed by the bad guys.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
CritialGaming said:
That trailer just felt like another revenge movie where the bad guys kill (daughter, girlfriend, wife, mother, etc etc) and the hero goes on a murder spree.
In this case it looks like Ellie's Lesbian Partner that got raped and killed by the bad guys.
Why did you spoiler tag something that is in the trailer for the game? Can you spoil a trailer? Are we worried about trailer spoiling now?
 

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CritialGaming said:
Samtemdo8 said:
CritialGaming said:
That trailer just felt like another revenge movie where the bad guys kill (daughter, girlfriend, wife, mother, etc etc) and the hero goes on a murder spree.
In this case it looks like Ellie's Lesbian Partner that got raped and killed by the bad guys.
Why did you spoiler tag something that is in the trailer for the game? Can you spoil a trailer? Are we worried about trailer spoiling now?
Just for the people who refuses to watch the trailer to avoid any sort of spoilers.
 

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CritialGaming said:
Am I the only person who's lost their interest in TLoU2? That trailer just felt like another revenge movie where the bad guys kill (daughter, girlfriend, wife, mother, etc etc) and the hero goes on a murder spree.

It's become a huge MEH for me. I mean the gameplay will probably still be really great. But I dunno I just feel removed from the story now.
I haven't lost interest, but yeah, it feels incredibly typical. My hope is that what we're seeing is either a red herring, or a lead-in to something more interesting. I also try to remind myself that the first game was pretty typical too, what with old man who lost his daughter but learns to love again due to precocious youth. With Naughty Dog it's usually not what they say, it's how they say it.

This needs to follow up on the ending of the first game and what Joel did, and I'll be horribly disappointed if they just ignore that in favour of 'Ellie wants revenge, Ellie gets revenge, the end'. I also feel it would've been really pointless for Naughty Dog to have put so much emphasis on this Dina character and the actress who plays her if she just functions as a character who gets fridged, so to speak, in the first hour.

Maybe this whole revenge plot is meant to get Ellie out of the compound, at which point Tommy finds out exactly what transpired between Joel and the fireflies/Marlene, Joel flees or is run out of town, prompting him to track down Ellie to keep her away from Tommy or anyone else who knows the truth. And then the drama can just flow from there. And not that Naughty Dog are totally original writers or anything, but if the plot of this game is simply 'Dina dies, Ellie goes on revenge quest' then that would be the most generic plot of any of their games. And it's not like this game will be the movie Mandy or anything.

In summation: I hope there's more than meets the eye here.
 

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CritialGaming said:
Am I the only person who's lost their interest in TLoU2? That trailer just felt like another revenge movie where the bad guys kill (daughter, girlfriend, wife, mother, etc etc) and the hero goes on a murder spree.

It's become a huge MEH for me. I mean the gameplay will probably still be really great. But I dunno I just feel removed from the story now.
Yeah, I watched the trailer in the hope that it sparked any sort of interest in the game and it looks like another joyless misery-fest like the first game so my enthusiasm for this game is at zero. Mind you, after I replayed the first game last year, it wasn't very high to begin with. Though, I did do a little yay for Joel when he turned up. And at this point there has been so much discussion as to whether he is now her imaginary friend, I think it would be more surprising if he is actually alive now.

So yeah, meh. I'm sure curiosity will get the best of me at some point and I'll borrow a copy from my friend who is sure to buy it and I might even enjoy it. But I'm not rushing to get it at launch.
 

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Catfood220 said:
Though, I did do a little yay for Joel when he turned up. And at this point there has been so much discussion as to whether he is now her imaginary friend, I think it would be more surprising if he is actually alive now.
That's because the fanbase seems addicted to shallow speculation, like tripping over themselves arguing that buff lady from the second trailer is Ellie's mom. All if it along with Joel being dead simply coming down to 'Wouldn't it be cool if...'
 

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CritialGaming said:
Am I the only person who's lost their interest in TLoU2? That trailer just felt like another revenge movie where the bad guys kill (daughter, girlfriend, wife, mother, etc etc) and the hero goes on a murder spree.

It's become a huge MEH for me. I mean the gameplay will probably still be really great. But I dunno I just feel removed from the story now.
Don't know about you, but I picked up on the revenge bit from the first trailer back in 2016, so I'm not now suddenly not interested in the game 🤷‍♂️

Even with knowing that Ellie is out for revenge in the game, I still want to know why, and how her journey will change along the way.
 

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bluegate said:
CritialGaming said:
Am I the only person who's lost their interest in TLoU2? That trailer just felt like another revenge movie where the bad guys kill (daughter, girlfriend, wife, mother, etc etc) and the hero goes on a murder spree.

It's become a huge MEH for me. I mean the gameplay will probably still be really great. But I dunno I just feel removed from the story now.
Don't know about you, but I picked up on the revenge bit from the first trailer back in 2016, so I'm not now suddenly not interested in the game 🤷‍♂️

Even with knowing that Ellie is out for revenge in the game, I still want to know why, and how her journey will change along the way.
I didn't watch the first trailer. This game was only very very passingly on my radar. I knew it was coming and this state of play was the first time i actually sat through a trailer, mostly because I was hoping for more FF7 news.
 

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A hands on impression of TLoU2 [https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/26/20884749/the-last-of-us-part-2-hands-on-impressions-naughty-dog-ellie-interview]

So basically it?s the other side of the coin of the original (hate fueled instead of love). I wonder if they?ll end it with you beating the main antagonist to within an inch of life and then leaving you to decide whether to show mercy or complete your vengeance. In any case, I?m sure the journey there will be full of insane production values and contain more open ended gameplay areas like UC4.

Also it?s been confirmed it won?t have MP, so that might help their focus.
 

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Is Ghost of Tsushima ever gonna come out or what? If it got delayed for the PS5, okay. I really don't think it should be the PS4's swan song though.

The Last of Us 2 looks alright. It's not a full-dollar purchase from me, but I'll pick it up at some point. Just like the first one.
 

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Elfgore said:
Is Ghost of Tsushima ever gonna come out or what? If it got delayed for the PS5, okay. I really don't think it should be the PS4's swan song though.

The Last of Us 2 looks alright. It's not a full-dollar purchase from me, but I'll pick it up at some point. Just like the first one.
Damn straight. Where is Ghost of Tsushima? LoUS II looks great, but I have interests.

These are only games I'm interested in for now:

Doom Eternal
River City Girls
Streets of Rage 4
Gungrave GORE
Onechanbara Origins
 

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Elfgore said:
Is Ghost of Tsushima ever gonna come out or what? If it got delayed for the PS5, okay. I really don't think it should be the PS4's swan song though.
I'm expecting that to be one of those September releases like Uncharted: Lost Legacy and Spider-Man. Sony tends to release their games in that time frame: Their super big dogs at around March/April, and their slightly lesser big dogs at around September.
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Also it?s been confirmed it won?t have MP, so that might help their focus.
What a difference from last generation, when nearly every Sony exclussive had a pointless multiplayer forced in, even freaking God of War. Now, I think only the Uncharted games have had one.
 

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Casual Shinji said:
Elfgore said:
Is Ghost of Tsushima ever gonna come out or what? If it got delayed for the PS5, okay. I really don't think it should be the PS4's swan song though.
I'm expecting that to be one of those September releases like Uncharted: Lost Legacy and Spider-Man. Sony tends to release their games in that time frame: Their super big dogs at around March/April, and their slightly lesser big dogs at around September.
hanselthecaretaker said:
Also it?s been confirmed it won?t have MP, so that might help their focus.
What a difference from last generation, when nearly every Sony exclussive had a pointless multiplayer forced in, even freaking God of War. Now, I think only the Uncharted games have had one.
When most of the games' multiplayer were mediocre, it's better to spend resources on making sure the single-player is great. Instead of another thrown in mp for the sake of it. The only ps3 exclusives that had good mps or had a long staying power were Uncharted 2, and Killzone 2 to my knowledge. KZ3 I don't know, and UC3's mp was not as good as 2's. After Ascension, Sony finally realized shoe-horned multiplayer is not the answer to everything. A major problem from many a publisher and developer from last generation.