2022 Brazilian Election

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The second round of voting for the Brazilian election is now underway, with ~60% of returns in.

The Guardian has a live tracker here:


It looks to be a great deal closer than pollsters predicted.

For those unfamiliar, the candidates are:

Jair Bolsonaro, of the Liberal Party. Far-right by pretty much any metric. Has massively expanded the deforestation of the rainforest and rescinded protections for indigenous groups. He's also an open admirer of the military junta. Authoritarian in the extreme. Also a vocal opponent of measures to tackle covid, he oversaw one of the worst death tolls worldwide during the pandemic.

Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, of the Workers' Party. Previously ruled as President 2003 to 2010. Slowed deforestation significantly during his tenure. Invested tens of billions into housing modernisation and poverty alleviation programs. He was imprisoned by a Federal Judge on corruption charges, which prevented him from running in the last Brazilian election... after which Bolsonaro appointed that Federal Judge as Minister for Justice. The charge was later annulled and is widely seen as a political quid-pro-quo.
 

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The second round of voting for the Brazilian election is now underway, with ~60% of returns in.

The Guardian has a live tracker here:


It looks to be a great deal closer than pollsters predicted.

For those unfamiliar, the candidates are:

Jair Bolsonaro, of the Liberal Party. Far-right by pretty much any metric. Has massively expanded the deforestation of the rainforest and rescinded protections for indigenous groups. He's also an open admirer of the military junta. Authoritarian in the extreme. Also a vocal opponent of measures to tackle covid, he oversaw one of the worst death tolls worldwide during the pandemic.

Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, of the Workers' Party. Previously ruled as President 2003 to 2010. Slowed deforestation significantly during his tenure. Invested tens of billions into housing modernisation and poverty alleviation programs. He was imprisoned by a Federal Judge on corruption charges, which prevented him from running in the last Brazilian election... after which Bolsonaro appointed that Federal Judge as Minister for Justice. The charge was later annulled and is widely seen as a political quid-pro-quo.
I absolutely despise Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva's foreign policy and hated his siding with Russia and China like Argentina's idiotic left-wing establishment. That said it's either the angry socialist or the fascist Amazon forest killer. So if you are in Brazil, have kids, and want to have a planet to live on after 50 years, pick Lula then primary him later with someone who will protect the Amazon Rainforest at least until we could do advanced terraforming than afterward destroy the rainforest to grow the economy(while taking a sample of every organism).

Edit: grammar.
 
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With 99.3% now counted, Lula leads 50.9 to 49.1. Its safe to say Lula has won.

Thank fucking god. This is, I'd say, one of the most vital steps for the climate crisis. This was a decision over whether to halt the catastrophic deforestation of one of the world's most important carbon sinks.
 

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That's just the first step, now we'll see if Bolsonaro will leave. It was also scarily close, I think Lula and his party are incredibly rotten, but there's absolutly no question that he's better than Bolsonaro (who's a piece of shit that's also rotten to the core). It's incredibly scary that it was this close.
 

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Well it's about time, Lula shouldn't have been out of office in the first place apart from a legitimate election loss. The whole crisis with Bolsonaro came from a manufactured problem.
 
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Lula won, amazing. Here's hoping he sticks to his gun.
 

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Cool. Now all that needs to happen is for Bolsonaro to not be a petty **** and concede.
 

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So far he's being petty. Complete radio silence.
He's checking the temperature. Seeing whether others are recognising Lula's victory, before he decides whether or not to accept the legitimacy of the election.

If sufficient numbers of his key allies, at home (like Sergio Moro, or right-wing regional governors) or abroad (like Putin or Salvini) were to deny it, then he'd follow suit. But it doesn't look like that's happening. There has been broad acceptance even from the right so far.
 
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He's checking the temperature. Seeing whether others are recognising Lula's victory, before he decides whether or not to accept the legitimacy of the election.

If sufficient numbers of his key allies, at home (like Sergio Moro, or right-wing regional governors) or abroad (like Putin or Salvini) were to deny it, then he'd follow suit. But it doesn't look like that's happening. There has been broad acceptance even from the right so far.
Arch authoritarian Xi already gave Lula his congratulations so as far as big powers go Bolsonaro's just left with an isolated and impotent Putin as a potential ally. So that's rather good news.
 

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Lula was only the second best leader in Brazil in recent memory. The first was a man by the name of FHC or Fernando Henrique Cardoso who was a social democratic academic who knew his shit. Guy grow Brazil's economy, lifted millions out of poverty, and was a legend. I was hoping Dilma would be similar back then, but nope.