Buffy and the After-School Special
Tonight, on a very special Buffy the Vampire Slayer...
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Plus it had the musical episode, which was so funny it literally hurt to watch because I was laughing so hard. And every scene with the nerds was just comedy gold - I really don't know why so many people seem to think that Season 6 sucked, heh.Elizabeth Grunewald said:A plausible metaphor, a patient story arc, and a willingness to show consequence: Season 6 of Buffy was an after-school special at its best.
Bless its heart, it tries. Tried, that is.Elizabeth Grunewald said:Buffy and the After-School Special
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True, but that's exactly why season six worked so well as an "after-school special"; it took its sweet time in developing over the course of the season, and it had actual consequences. I totally agree with you, Elizabeth. Every Buffy fan seems to hate on season six, and yeah it does have its problems, but I find it's not nearly as bad as people make it out to be, and totally underrated in general. I think people just didn't like how completely and utterly dark it was as a whole.dastardly said:Bless its heart, it tries. Tried, that is.
The problem with serial TV and comic books in delivering lessons of this sort is the media themselves.
A TV series is limited by time. That means most of these issues will be resolved by epiphany, or some other quick fix. The message can be undermined by the unintentional indication that minimum effort yields maximum results when it comes to coping with life's problems. A comic book usually features a superhero. One of the reasons we're drawn to these heroes is their powers. One of the reasons we're drawn to those powers is the convenience they offer. Got a problem? Zap it with a laser and fly away at super speed.
Yeah, I agree that Willow's tale in season 6 worked well specifically because of the time it took and the fact that she was never fully cured. The other examples, and other series that try this, are what I was taking aim at.Dorkmaster Flek said:snip
Is this what passes for critical insight these days? You apply a label to the episode that clearly doesn't fit, then criticize the episode for not fitting the label?Elizabeth Grunewald said:This is in keeping with the supernatural nature of things in Sunnydale, but does a bit of a disservice to the episode's standing as an after-school special.
Alternatively, the 'very special' message of the episode wasn't just about abusive relationships, but about abusive relationships where one partner is also drinking or taking drugs - which can and do have an effect on your anger management in the real world, and are often used as a crutch and an excuse both by the addict and his victims.Elizabeth Grunewald said:Blaming Pete's issues partially on the chemical gives him a crutch, an excuse to wipe away the horrors of his abusive nature. Some of the manipulation and jealousy is attributed to his character, but the physical abuse is accompanied by a transformation of sorts, which removes the human face from the equation.
The only problem being that the same writers previously used magic as a convenient shorthand for lesbianism - so that when Willow becomes addicted to magic, loses control and starts killing people, the lesson we are taught is "being gay makes you insane".A plausible metaphor, a patient story arc, and a willingness to show consequence: Season 6 of Buffy was an after-school special at its best.
When Oz left her she was devastated and depressed for several episodes and slowly moved on like a normal person over time (allowing for tv episode spacing). When Terra left her she really tried to get clean; note she does not try to stop loving women but tries to stop using (or abusing) magic. When Terra is murdered she flays someone alive.Soylent Dave said:The only problem being that the same writers previously used magic as a convenient shorthand for lesbianism - so that when Willow becomes addicted to magic, loses control and starts killing people, the lesson we are taught is "being gay makes you insane".
Compare and contrast with her reaction when Oz leaves her - she gets upset, but she doesn't flay anyone alive.
Actually, the potential dangerous nature of magic use is hinted at regularly throughout the show, beginning in Season 2, when Willow begins researching methods to bring Angel back, despite Giles' insistence that magic is a powerful force and she is not nearly ready to take it on, and being brought into clear view in the final episode of that season, when she is taken over by the Gypsy spell she is performing and begins speaking in Romanian. Magic-as-Drug-Use is set up more explicitly in The Dark Age, when Giles talks about the summoning spell he and his friends used to use, and describes it as "an incredible high." Then you have multiple examples of moments when Willow is considering an outright dangerous or malicious use of magic: the hatred spell she almost casts on Oz and Veruca, the episode when she considers casting an anti-love spell on herself and Xander... throughout her entire relationship with magic, you can see her teetering on the edge, like someone who does pot, and is considering taking something harder, but is still unsure, and so hovers around it, getting closer and closer to a more destructive pattern. I would argue that they actually do an excellent job of showing the potential harm of magic throughout the series, and of showing how a parental figure might recognize a potential danger to his child, but be unable to address it properly with her until it is almost too late.Flaming Geek said:I really dislike how the "magic as drugs" metaphor was implemented because it basically erased how magic worked as set up in previous seasons. There was no hinting at addiction or possible negative consequences other than screwing it up by doing a spell that gets you killed or going crazy with the power of it.
Also, she does end up using magic in destructive ways when Oz leaves - remember the Something Blue episode when everything she wills begins to happen? That's the episode when D'Hoffryn offers to make her a vengeance demon. She clearly has the ability to use magic as a destructive crutch when she is upset, even in the fourth season.CitySquirrel said:This is where your analysis breaks down. When Oz left who was there to blame? Oz, and she loved him even if she was angry at him. The object of her anger was also the object of her love. When Terra was killed, something that should be noted as vastly different from taking off in a van for a while, there is someone to be angry at and to blame. This someone is not the object of her affection but someone who has been her enemy for several months. Therefore, there is nothing to hold her back.Soylent Dave said:The only problem being that the same writers previously used magic as a convenient shorthand for lesbianism - so that when Willow becomes addicted to magic, loses control and starts killing people, the lesson we are taught is "being gay makes you insane".
Compare and contrast with her reaction when Oz leaves her - she gets upset, but she doesn't flay anyone alive.
Yes, someone leaving and someone being killed are a wee bit different.CitySquirrel said:When Terra is murdered she flays someone alive.Soylent Dave said:The only problem being that the same writers previously used magic as a convenient shorthand for lesbianism - so that when Willow becomes addicted to magic, loses control and starts killing people, the lesson we are taught is "being gay makes you insane".
Compare and contrast with her reaction when Oz leaves her - she gets upset, but she doesn't flay anyone alive.
This is where your analysis breaks down. When Oz left who was there to blame?
The writers didn't explicitly show Willow and Tara 'being gay'; in place of the physical affection you'd normally see in a teenage relationship (even in an American TV show), they tended to perform magic spells together.I'm not sure where one would even draw a parallel between magic and lesbianism in the context of Buffy The Vampire Slayer.
Forgot about that. It is portrayed as an accident, though.The Morrigan said:Also, she does end up using magic in destructive ways when Oz leaves - remember the Something Blue episode when everything she wills begins to happen? That's the episode when D'Hoffryn offers to make her a vengeance demon. She clearly has the ability to use magic as a destructive crutch when she is upset, even in the fourth season.