John Madden Football Designer Sues EA for Billions

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John Madden Football Designer Sues EA for Billions



The guy who originally wrote the software for John Madden Football hasn't been paid in decades even though the game still uses his code.

In 1986, there wasn't a lot of processing power available on home computers but somehow Robin Antonick was able to use knowledge from ex-Oakland Raiders coach John Madden to write a game that featured 11 players to a team. Antonick said he worked in a cubicle a few doors down from Electronic Arts founder Trip Hawkins creating John Madden Football for the Commodore 64 and other PCs to release in 1988. The football series came out on the Sega Genesis console in 1990, still based on Antonick's code, and went on to make over $4 billion in sales with annual releases over the next two decades. Antonick believed that after 1992 - when he received his last royalty check from EA - the game was completely redesigned but then he saw marketing copy celebrating the game's anniversary which stated that the current Madden NFL 11 is still derived from his work. Antonick has filed a suit in the state of California for years of unpaid royalties and "disgorgement of all profits" - that $4 billion.

"Only recently, as a result of publicity surrounding the 20th Anniversary of the Madden videogame did Antonick become aware that Electronic Arts did not independently develop subsequent versions of its Madden NFL software," the complaint reads. "Instead, according to recent statements by Electronic Arts founder Trip Hawkins, the current generation of software apparently derived from software developed by Antonick."

According to Antonick, the development deal he signed with EA back in 1986 entitles him to royalties from all derivative works of his code. The claim also states that EA licensed Madden for use on consoles without Antonick's permission. "Electronic Arts decided that it did not want to share profits with [Antonick] even though he was responsible for the development of virtually all of the ground-breaking technology at the heart of the game."

To think that someone who was so instrumental in creating the backbone of a terribly successful franchise not being properly compensated is quite disgusting. Artists, even videogame programmers, deserve to reap the benefits of their work.

On the other hand, while Antonick may have a claim that a nugget of his code is still present in Madden NFL 11, it's not like he was the guy who has been updating the programming for 7th generation consoles or implementing new features. I don't think he deserves all of the $4 billion profits, but he should definitely receive a fair shake.

Source: Hollywood Reporter [http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/madden-football-video-game-creator-173932?]



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Onyx Oblivion

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JOHN MADDEN! JOHN MADDEN! JOHN MADDEN! UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!


WHAT?

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If his code is still used, he deserves a lot of back pay.

Edit: Screw the old vid.

I found an MLP version.
 

PixelKing

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HG131 said:
So, they've been using coding from 1988? That explains so much.
^ Congrats. You ended the thread :D

OT: I think he deserves his share.
 

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He deserves to be paid a lot. But he doesn't deserve 4 billion. Games are all about iteration and improvement, and most of it was not done by him. Settle out of court for a few million, and give him credit, and I think everyone can call it even. Honest mistake.
 

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Xanadu84 said:
He deserves to be paid a lot. But he doesn't deserve 4 billion. Games are all about iteration and improvement, and most of it was not done by him. Settle out of court for a few million, and give him credit, and I think everyone can call it even. Honest mistake.
I think this is the part where I make a joke insinuating you haven't played a game by EA in the past decade.

That aside, the settlement is why the suit is for the 4 billion. It's just a negotiation. "I want 4 billion dollars." "We'll give you 2 million." And then they settle out for 35 and EA fires an entire studio somewhere.
 

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butteforce said:
Xanadu84 said:
He deserves to be paid a lot. But he doesn't deserve 4 billion. Games are all about iteration and improvement, and most of it was not done by him. Settle out of court for a few million, and give him credit, and I think everyone can call it even. Honest mistake.
I think this is the part where I make a joke insinuating you haven't played a game by EA in the past decade.

That aside, the settlement is why the suit is for the 4 billion. It's just a negotiation. "I want 4 billion dollars." "We'll give you 2 million." And then they settle out for 35 and EA fires an entire studio somewhere.
I havn't played a Madden game ever, but if the game still uses the code, then he still deserves compensation. Also, I know its a negotiation tactic. I think that this case will likely go exactly the way that it should, with the guy who made the foundation for a successful franchise getting his retirement money, and the company making the game feeling an ever so slight sting in their bank account.
 

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Onyx Oblivion said:
DeadlyYellow said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
JOHN MADDEN! JOHN MADDEN! JOHN MADDEN! UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!


WHAT?
Well there goes seven minutes of my life I'm never getting back.
How do you lose 7 minutes to a 2 minutes video?
because after wards u have to spend 5 minutes wondering wtf was going on! :p

OT: the guy definitely deserves his share maybe not the 4 billion but like at least 1-2billion
 

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It isn't that they are still using his code, the claim is code "derived" from his code is being used. The problem with that is since it is a football title, there is going to be parts of code that exist as simple data structures. I would need more detail on what code exactly is in question before jumping to any conclusions.
 

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chaos order said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
DeadlyYellow said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
JOHN MADDEN! JOHN MADDEN! JOHN MADDEN! UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!


WHAT?
Well there goes seven minutes of my life I'm never getting back.
How do you lose 7 minutes to a 2 minutes video?
because after wards u have to spend 5 minutes wondering wtf was going on! :p

OT: the guy definitely deserves his share maybe not the 4 billion but like at least 1-2billion
Wow... that video had me giggling riotously, and I'm still not sure why. I think it's the Mario music. It makes me want to laugh like a madman.
 

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Wolfram01 said:
April Fools?? It seems pretty much impossible to still use his code..
Half-Life 2 Episode 2 still has bits of code from the original quake engine used way back when Half-Life was in development.

So not impossible but probably April fools.
 

Verlander

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Gonna be so happy when April Fools is over

Dude, it should stop at midday... unless you have a weird post-12:00 tradition over there
 

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Onyx Oblivion said:
How do you lose 7 minutes to a 2 minutes video?
-First watch
-Recovery
-Second watch to confirm what I've seen.
-More recovery.

And now I am going through all the guy's videos.