Comic-Con Loses Hollywood Support

Earnest Cavalli

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Comic-Con Loses Hollywood Support



Hollywood movie studios, once excited to share their upcoming films with Comic-Con's captive geek audience, are abandoning the show en masse.

In recent years, the key focus of Comic-Con has slightly shifted. Yes, it's still a massive gathering of thousands of comic book fans hoping to catch a glimpse of the newest books from DC and Marvel (or, at least, cute girls dressed as Ramona Flowers [http://www.google.com/search?q=ramona+flowers+cosplay&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:eek:fficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1261&bih=672]), but thanks to Hollywood marketing muscle, a sizable part of the event has become dedicated to the promotion of the latest geek-centric films.

Warner Bros. used the event to promote Sherlock Holmes and 300, Disney repeatedly staged outrageous stunts to promote Tron: Legacy and Marvel's film wing has long relied on Comic-Con to promote their latest superhero flicks.

As the New York Times reports however, this year's event may be lacking in Hollywood stars.

Comic-Con, as a growing number of movie marketers are realizing, has turned into a treacherous place. Studios come seeking buzz, but the Comic-Con effect can be more negative than positive. The swarm of dedicated fans - many of whom arrive at the convention in Japanese anime drag or draped in Ewok fur - can instantly sour on a film if it doesn't like what it sees, leaving publicity teams with months of damaging Web chatter to clean up.

"It's a red-letter opportunity, but you shouldn't go simply because it sits there on the calendar," said Michael Moses, co-president of marketing for Universal Pictures. "You have to be absolutely certain you have goods ready that can really make a difference for your film."

Warner Bros., Disney and Dreamworks have all bowed out of Comic-Con and even Marvel Entertainment, the NYT reports, "is on the fence about whether it will mount a major presentation" to promote The Avengers.

Key to the suddenly skittish studios' decision were the middling returns for Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World. Though the $60 million film was a hit at Comic-Con, it only sold $32 million in tickets.

The con won't be entirely devoid of films though. Fox and Sony plan to roll out heavy promotional campaigns for Rise of the Planet of the Apes and The Amazing Spider-Man respectively.

The key point for discussion that this studio exodus raises is that Hollywood may have finally realized that perhaps the whims of the geek masses dedicated enough to attend a comic book convention (or post on Internet forums, or mail tons of peanuts to executives [http://abcnews.go.com/Business/FunMoney/story?id=3214156&page=1]) may not directly correlate with the desires of the mainstream market.

Geeks may be an extremely vocal minority, it seems to suggest, but they are still a minority.

Source: Entertainment Geekly [http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/13/business/media/13comic.html?_r=1&scp=2&sq=comic-con&st=cse]
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laryri

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Does this mean Comic-Con is actually going to be about comics again? Thank god.
 

wildcard9

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Now I see why Yahtzee is so bitter against "fans".

Not to say that it's not important to court dedicated fans of the franchise, but if you listen only to the fans you leave out the mainstream audience, which represent at least 60% of the profits.

Maybe it'll be better for both parties. After all, Comic-Con is supposed to be about the comics
 

Charli

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Unsurprising, Hollywood tends to be like a swinging pendulum, once it's had a poke in a demographic it goes back to it's usual, Oh sod it, the formula we had before of just pandering to the lowest common denominator gets us the most cash. (They're not wrong)

Individual studios will do what they do, but Hollywood as a whole is usually caught in that cycle.
 

Tartarga

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So that means no more Twilight at the Comic Con? Thank you whichever god is responsible for this, now we must set up defenses to make sure they never come back.
 

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Maybe it's because I'm more a film fan than for comics (if I was brave enough to endure the social stigma and put up with the low amount of affordable comic book stores in the uk, I assure you, I'd be knee deep in alien omnibuses right now) but I'll miss movies at comic con. Sure, the unwelcome prescence of the likes of twilight was annoying, but I found it to be a platform for films frowned upon at more traditional (and narrow minded) film festivals; the fantasies, the horrors, the big dumb but well made action movies.

I suppose now the likes of George a Romero and Robert Rodriquez will just have to put up with the posh "horror cannot be art" Cannes film festival bores. ..*sigh*
 

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Earnest Cavalli said:
Key to the suddenly skittish studios' decision were the middling returns for Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World. Though the $60 million film was a hit at Comic-Con, it only sold $32 million in tickets.
"Movie Bob Chipman" laments that this is the case and doesn't seem to understand why that was the case. But what he is certain about is that it's our fault.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/3281-The-Numbers


Earnest Cavalli said:
The key point for discussion that this studio exodus raises is that Hollywood may have finally realized that perhaps the whims of the geek masses dedicated enough to attend a comic book convention (or post on Internet forums, or mail tons of peanuts to executives [http://abcnews.go.com/Business/FunMoney/story?id=3214156&page=1]) may not directly correlate with the desires of the mainstream market.

Geeks may be an extremely vocal minority, it seems to suggest, but they are still a minority.
And there in lay the problem Bob. You may be strongly motivated in your opinion, but what you can't seem to understand is that you are apparently in the minority and for all that is wrong with Hollywood, they seem to be coming to this realization as well.
 

Jonny49

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Then...don't make movies that are pieces of shit?

Surely that would be a good place to start.
 

yanipheonu

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Well, Hollywood has learned the harsh reality: The opinion of nerds about creative works does not directly correlate to the real world.

Though to be fair, it tends to work out.

Scott Pilgrim didn't do well in the box office, but it's becoming a DVD/Bluray Cult hit, it's sorta like how Nightmare before Christmas bombed too, but now you can't walk into a music store without seeing merch for it.
 

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I don't recall any movie that got a really bad reception at CC, enough to 'wreck' the opening. Can anyone enlighten me?
 

Kenjitsuka

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"Geeks may be an extremely vocal minority, it seems to suggest, but they are still a minority."
Riiight!

That's just not true.
Geeks are mainstream now.

This feels a bit like Peter Molynuex whining how his teaser trailer stuff wasn't representative for his game. If you don't got the wares, then don't show them. Quite simple!
 

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If Disney has pulled out, does that mean ABC as its broadcast wing will not be there?

More to the point, is that the end of the Castle panel discussions? Can we call it Comic-Con without an appearance by Nathan Fillion?

It's probably too much to hope they'll convene a Firefly panel yet again, five years on from the movie and with no success in acquiring the rights to expand the 'verse to date.
 

Jesus Phish

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So, SPVTW did well at comic-con and bad at the box office, but they're saying not to go to comic con, because if it does badly there, it'll do bad on release...

What? I'm sure it had nothing to do with bad marketing and being a movie about a book nobody outside of indie comics has heard of.

The guy's quote also sounds pretty offensive and ignorant. Anime and Ewoks? This is what he thinks of comic con?
 

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So movie makers are scared to show us their films because they are scared we will hate it and they wont be able to hype us out of our money? The real solution to this is to simply stop making crap movies.
 

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yanipheonu said:
Well, Hollywood has learned the harsh reality: The opinion of nerds about creative works does not directly correlate to the real world.

Though to be fair, it tends to work out.

Scott Pilgrim didn't do well in the box office, but it's becoming a DVD/Bluray Cult hit, it's sorta like how Nightmare before Christmas bombed too, but now you can't walk into a music store without seeing merch for it.
Formula movies like Fast and Furious sequels, while immediately profitable, will blow away in the breeze. While Scott Pilgrim will be obsessed over for decades much like The Lost Boys and The Princess Bride. Sadly, it's those first week movie ticket sales that movie companies care about.