The problem is crap painted gold sells really well to a less self-educated majority, or a blinded minority.Jonny49 said:
Comic-Con Loses Hollywood Support
- Thread starter Earnest Cavalli
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Even then! They'd screw it up and do it all wrong somehow.Imp Emissary said:Not even if they were to give you all a....."Happy ending".Snowy Rainbow said:
I'm going to quote penny arcade here, specifically Gabe:
"Alright you dorks listen up. I know its hard for you right now. But I'm telling you: Outside these walls? WE RUN SHIT."
with that in mind, these companies need to realize that unless they stop pandering to everybody when they try to pander to just one group they will never succeed.
seriously if its geek source material, just make it for geeks for fucks sake, we will pay to see it over and over and over again and buy every bullshit "Directors cut" or "special edition" you put out! why is this shit so hard to comprehend?
and you can't make the money argument, like i just said we will pay for it, look at memorabilia on amazon or ebay for anime and comics and games, that shit is expensive as fuck and people buy it like it was the last day of the sale.
500 dollars for a 12" statue of a hot anime girl is retardedly expensive but people buy it!
"Alright you dorks listen up. I know its hard for you right now. But I'm telling you: Outside these walls? WE RUN SHIT."
with that in mind, these companies need to realize that unless they stop pandering to everybody when they try to pander to just one group they will never succeed.
seriously if its geek source material, just make it for geeks for fucks sake, we will pay to see it over and over and over again and buy every bullshit "Directors cut" or "special edition" you put out! why is this shit so hard to comprehend?
and you can't make the money argument, like i just said we will pay for it, look at memorabilia on amazon or ebay for anime and comics and games, that shit is expensive as fuck and people buy it like it was the last day of the sale.
500 dollars for a 12" statue of a hot anime girl is retardedly expensive but people buy it!
Let's face it geeks, we managed to pull one huge bluff on Hollywood for years now and we should be damn proud of ourselves (or dismayed at how dimwitted they really are!). But all god things must end as it seems Hollywood finally caught up on our little game.
See when they finally dragged themselves to that shiny new thingamajig everybody kept telling them about ? The Internet ? they found out that surprise-surprise they weren?t much loved there. All the Internet seemed to be doing was lessoning them on how to do their jobs. Like those hippies know anything about fiscal responsibility and quarterly budgets!
But all hail the time of Twitter and Facebook and Blogging when all of a sudden people decided they want to get their news from real people they knew and trusted, rather than all those nice faceless major newsletters they owned, damn them to hippie hell!
And so ? suddenly Studios started re-thinking much of what they?ve been doing in the past.
If there are so many people living in that magic box, imagine what would be if we can get them on our side?
Nothing like the promise of all that good untapped geek Cash to make Hollywood radically change priorities.
And thus came the ?Geeky Era? where every third movie had a comic book hero and at least some fantasy/sci-fi in it for good measure. Or you know ? toys, and Disney rides. The point is there was a market for all that and despite the bumpy ride to get there Hollywood finally arrived!
And found that they didn?t need us after all.
They caught on us and our shenanigans ? there just aren?t enough of us out there to make a difference and they are no longer scared of us. No matter how much we yell our voices they are still going to make their Fast and Furious 17 and Transformers and they?ll get good money for it.
Ok now I?m depressed
Bring back Firefly!!!!!
See when they finally dragged themselves to that shiny new thingamajig everybody kept telling them about ? The Internet ? they found out that surprise-surprise they weren?t much loved there. All the Internet seemed to be doing was lessoning them on how to do their jobs. Like those hippies know anything about fiscal responsibility and quarterly budgets!
But all hail the time of Twitter and Facebook and Blogging when all of a sudden people decided they want to get their news from real people they knew and trusted, rather than all those nice faceless major newsletters they owned, damn them to hippie hell!
And so ? suddenly Studios started re-thinking much of what they?ve been doing in the past.
If there are so many people living in that magic box, imagine what would be if we can get them on our side?
Nothing like the promise of all that good untapped geek Cash to make Hollywood radically change priorities.
And thus came the ?Geeky Era? where every third movie had a comic book hero and at least some fantasy/sci-fi in it for good measure. Or you know ? toys, and Disney rides. The point is there was a market for all that and despite the bumpy ride to get there Hollywood finally arrived!
And found that they didn?t need us after all.
They caught on us and our shenanigans ? there just aren?t enough of us out there to make a difference and they are no longer scared of us. No matter how much we yell our voices they are still going to make their Fast and Furious 17 and Transformers and they?ll get good money for it.
Ok now I?m depressed
Bring back Firefly!!!!!
1. Nice going with insulting the nerds there.
2. Wow, it took these people THIS long to figure out that it's possible for people to actually decide if a movie is good or not despite all the hype? Man, someone should also go tell these people the world is not flat and it doesn't revolve around the sun. Oh the looks on their faces...
Bravo! They finally worked it out!Earnest Cavalli said:
Geeks are an extremely poor target demographic. We're a minority, as noted, and our tastes are massively different to that of most people. You can make money on a geek aimed product, but it's in merchandising, not the film. Regrettably; there's a reason most films aimed at geeks are bad: There's no money in making a good one. For a short while, Hollywood forgot that, but they've come to their senses. The status quo returns!
Nuuuu! I haven't gotten the chance to go yet!
Actually, sounds like it might be just a one-year case...
Actually, sounds like it might be just a one-year case...
Soo well are you really sure comic con gonna be about comics, thats no good now, how can we now go to a convention and expect it filled with things that has nothing with it to do. Think about all the garden fairs what would they be without the marketing for the latest TV?.... Or the car one it really needs the Mona Lisa hanging on the wall...
Honestly Scott Pilgrim wasn't a bad movie it just got a bit to much "geek" for the masses and I would not chosen Michael Cera he's not that good and is a bit to annoying even for a geek...
Honestly Scott Pilgrim wasn't a bad movie it just got a bit to much "geek" for the masses and I would not chosen Michael Cera he's not that good and is a bit to annoying even for a geek...
Does this also mean there will be less comic book movies?laryri said:
Please say yes... I'm getting burnt out.
The love interest in a movie is one of those cliches, it allows the audience to feel empathy and connect with the hero. Doing so makes him more relatable and likable. You notice how the villains never have the kind of girl or love the hero always seems to have.ethanizaak said:
You can't incorporate decades of backstory in to a 2 hour movie, no. But the movie execs treat audiences as if they are stupid by dedicating the first half of the movie explaining the origins of the character. If a movie is based on someone like Superman, Batman, Wolverine or Spiderman then its generally geared to those who are fans of the genre/character and thus don't need the origin explained to them.
Then they try and fit a 2 year story line in to the last half of the movie.
I was more offended at the quote referring to fans as "it," as if they were a rare, Saharan mutant. Sure, he was speaking collectively, but goddamn.Jesus Phish said:
Um... isn't this what Comc Con "fans" have been harping for? Less Hollywood power? I'm confused.
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Alright, alright. I'm not a hardcore comic book fan, so I would actually be one of those guys who would love to go to a Comic Con to mingle with other people that might like some of the stuff I like and I would also enjoy learning about upcoming movies or...book franchises. .__ .
However, I have to admit it doesn't sound like Comic Con at all. Twilight? Disney? (Does Disney have comic books?) Heck, as much as I love the Show Bones, I don't see why they showed up at one Comic Con.
Back to topic. Hardcore fans can be a tough audience. Most of them are unforgiving and will wait for an opening to attack. I know that if someone made a FFVIII movie and hired a lame Squall, I'd be pissed too.
So um...yes, Hollywood. Good move. If you're gonna do crappy movies according to your idea of what the movie should look like, the last thing you want is people bitching about it, right?
Take that last sentence's meaning as you wish.
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Umm...
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The thing is...
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Alright, alright. I'm not a hardcore comic book fan, so I would actually be one of those guys who would love to go to a Comic Con to mingle with other people that might like some of the stuff I like and I would also enjoy learning about upcoming movies or...book franchises. .__ .
However, I have to admit it doesn't sound like Comic Con at all. Twilight? Disney? (Does Disney have comic books?) Heck, as much as I love the Show Bones, I don't see why they showed up at one Comic Con.
Back to topic. Hardcore fans can be a tough audience. Most of them are unforgiving and will wait for an opening to attack. I know that if someone made a FFVIII movie and hired a lame Squall, I'd be pissed too.
So um...yes, Hollywood. Good move. If you're gonna do crappy movies according to your idea of what the movie should look like, the last thing you want is people bitching about it, right?
Take that last sentence's meaning as you wish.
this will hurt only ONE thing - hollywood itself.
And geeks may be a minotrity and hard to please, but they still provide A LOT of income. a mainstream viewed will go to see a movie once. a geek will see it 5 times, buy the dvd, buy the blue ray and probably buy the directors edition too.
also i love that you linked the jericho nut sending case, so little people know about it
P.S. capcha just told me to type "prime time". lol.
And geeks may be a minotrity and hard to please, but they still provide A LOT of income. a mainstream viewed will go to see a movie once. a geek will see it 5 times, buy the dvd, buy the blue ray and probably buy the directors edition too.
also i love that you linked the jericho nut sending case, so little people know about it
P.S. capcha just told me to type "prime time". lol.