227: Step Into the Light

oranger

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stuff like this, the kneejerk reaction, all of it makes me wish civilization had a siphon for sociopaths and extreme narcissists...you know, some way to throw them under the bus en masse, or at least draw them into congregating in a permanent fashion?
 

copycatalyst

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Dom Camus said:
I suggest the following headline: "Children should take vitamin D supplements".

So no, that is not a suitable story for the gaming press.
This brings up an interesting point.

It seems the study could have avoided this issue altogether if it just framed things differently. As has already been pointed out, much of the coverage of the issue seemed to commit the error of equating correlation and causation. But the researchers themselves could have simply framed their category as "children with less than (x) hours sunlight/outdoor activity" instead of "children with more than (y) hours in front of a screen."

The analysis seems to indicate that they were only using "hours in front of a screen" as a stand in for "hours not outside" anyhow. Still, it's easier for parents to identify their own children by the "hours in front of a screen" category, which seems to be why it would be framed this way.

Another problem, though, is that these parents of this one potentially-at-risk group (kids in front of screens) are probably not likely to get news like this from gaming journalists (unless they are gamers themselves), so I agree that it was not really a story for the gaming press in the first place.
 

The Random One

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Indeed, indeed. We, gamers, are quickly turning into a group that will angrily lash out at anything we find doesn't agree with the way we act. As games become more mainstream, the 'hardcore' gamer is becoming one of those fringe groups that lash out at any media that becomes well known and defends only its own obscure, impenetrable take on its media.

I expected this from Destructoid, which is silly and that is kind of its point, but not from GamePolitics.

copycatalyst said:
Dom Camus said:
I suggest the following headline: "Children should take vitamin D supplements".

So no, that is not a suitable story for the gaming press.
This brings up an interesting point.

It seems the study could have avoided this issue altogether if it just framed things differently. As has already been pointed out, much of the coverage of the issue seemed to commit the error of equating correlation and causation. But the researchers themselves could have simply framed their category as "children with less than (x) hours sunlight/outdoor activity" instead of "children with more than (y) hours in front of a screen."

The analysis seems to indicate that they were only using "hours in front of a screen" as a stand in for "hours not outside" anyhow. Still, it's easier for parents to identify their own children by the "hours in front of a screen" category, which seems to be why it would be framed this way.

Another problem, though, is that these parents of this one potentially-at-risk group (kids in front of screens) are probably not likely to get news like this from gaming journalists (unless they are gamers themselves), so I agree that it was not really a story for the gaming press in the first place.
But, read the article carefully. It says that one of many things that were measures was the amount of hours spent using electronic entertainment. A correlation was found. They put it in their conclusion, as is their job. Everything else is media circus.
 

copycatalyst

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The Random One said:
But, read the article carefully. It says that one of many things that were measures was the amount of hours spent using electronic entertainment. A correlation was found. They put it in their conclusion, as is their job. Everything else is media circus.
"In a phone interview, Melamed explains playing videogames doesn't cause low vitamin D levels. It's the decreased time kids spend outdoors that does, since a primary source of vitamin D is sunlight."

The correlation that was found is, as I said, using 'time in front of a TV' as a stand in for 'time not outside.'
 

likalaruku

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You can get your vitamin D from heavy dairy intake.

I live in Washington state, where the sun dissapears for half a year under heavy rainfall. I haven't seen a ray of light in 2 weeks. & when the sun does come out, I still can't go outside. Do you know how hard it is for a redhead to avoid getting freckles?
 

Puregrrr

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You only need about 1 hour of sunlight on your face to get your vitamin D for the day. Less time than that if you expose more skin. Dairy will help, but it can also lead to that unfortunate side effect of diarrhea.