Bombs Away!
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They dont are that some of their films fail if they did they would try harder not to make generic crap.
I think the lesson movie executives should take away from Sucker Punch is that Zack Snyder should just be a cinematographer or director of photography, because when he's allowed absolute freedom as a director we get this crap. And he should certainly never be allowed to write anything again for the rest of his life, not even a shopping list.
Seeing Sucker Punch fail the way it did actually fills me with some hope that the majority of the mainstream moviegoers won't simply flock to whatever movie has the shiniest CGI. I dont think I could've taken seeing both Transformers 3 and Sucker Punch succeed at the box office.
Seeing Sucker Punch fail the way it did actually fills me with some hope that the majority of the mainstream moviegoers won't simply flock to whatever movie has the shiniest CGI. I dont think I could've taken seeing both Transformers 3 and Sucker Punch succeed at the box office.
So... in between Sucker Punch and Green Lantern this basically means we'll never get a (good) Wonder Woman film anytime this decade, will we?
My heart weeps~
My heart weeps~
I won't lie, I'm a little disappointed that you didn't do a full video on the latest Conan movie. But this makes up for it 
(Although a Big Picture about Howard's material and its adaptions would be great!)
(Although a Big Picture about Howard's material and its adaptions would be great!)
I'm surprised that Zach Snyder's career hasn't been hurt by this. Look at the box office numbers [http://www.the-numbers.com/] for his list of films.
He's had two films that were unqualified successes: Dawn of the Dead 2004 and 300 (2007). Watchmen and Legend of the Guardians may have eeked out small profits after DVD sales, but Sucker Punch was a high-budget disaster.
Now, it's true that it's only been four years since the success of 300, but that's still 3 big-budget movies that Snyder has directed that only had modest success, at best - after the DVD sales.
He's had two films that were unqualified successes: Dawn of the Dead 2004 and 300 (2007). Watchmen and Legend of the Guardians may have eeked out small profits after DVD sales, but Sucker Punch was a high-budget disaster.
Now, it's true that it's only been four years since the success of 300, but that's still 3 big-budget movies that Snyder has directed that only had modest success, at best - after the DVD sales.
The fact they had already downgraded Wonder Woman to a TV show and couldn't even get that launched is probably an even surer sign of this. Surprised he didn't touch on Fright Night which also seems to have bombed fairly hard. Between that and Conan I'd think the lesson is 'not EVERYTHING from the 80's has enough nostalgic value to be profitable.'Pedro The Hutt said:
Zack Snyder is a hack without a good script or quality source material to faithfully "adapt". Sucker Punch was one of the worst films of the year. That Owl movie looked cool but tried to cram too much story and exposition into a 90 minute movie, thus making a completely forgettable experience. Watchmen was a good movie with a bunch of problems (mainly his direction). 300 was his last truly fun movie. Dawn of the Dead was his best movie, proving that you can successful remake a classic horror movie.
I still don't like when he says Captain Montage: The First Avenger and Thor are good. Both of them suffer from absolutely horrible pacing. Captain America is way too hectic, as people, places, and explosions just drop in from out of nowhere and drop out just as quickly. Thor, on the other hand, decided its redemption story was only going to last two days as Thor races through the fastest character arc in the history of characters. I can't stand that he'll knock non-comic movies for less but salivates all over these because of geek minutiae.
Was the Beaver really a flop because of Mel Gibson hate, or was it because of the no advertising, no hype, limited release, niche-appeal of the subject matter?
And sad thing is Snyder obviously thought it was some deep, meaningful, thoughtful narrative. Stupid people trying to act smart never worksMacNille said:
The real problem with Sucker Punch may have been that it wanted to have its cake and eat it, too. It sold itself as spectacle with a side of titillation and then chose to throw the standard action movie narrative on its ear and bring in a gratuitous downer ending. Even as someone who was reasonably willing to accept the message that Snyder might have been trying to push, that annoyed me. To someone who was the target audience of that movie and/or that message, it was probably enough to make them go out and advise their friends to stay away.
It's actually a bit of a pity; it's got a lot going on visually, and I really like Emily Browning.
The message I'm getting from the movies these days is that I'm not very qualified to judge what will be successful. I really like to believe that good movies will prevail over bad ones, and writing a decent script and identifiable characters and coherent plot is at least as important as bankable leading men and CGI-O-rama, but movies like the most recent Pirates and Transformers, as well as the box office failure of Scott Pilgrim, seem to exist to prove me wrong.
As far as The Beaver goes, I'm willing to consider a little Gibson-hate in the equation. Trying to pull a warm-and-fuzzy after making a drunken verbal assault on Jews, leaving your wife and children for your mistress, and then spewing a sickeningly violent tirade at said mistress after she has your child makes a lot of people feel you're trying to pull one over on them.
It's actually a bit of a pity; it's got a lot going on visually, and I really like Emily Browning.
The message I'm getting from the movies these days is that I'm not very qualified to judge what will be successful. I really like to believe that good movies will prevail over bad ones, and writing a decent script and identifiable characters and coherent plot is at least as important as bankable leading men and CGI-O-rama, but movies like the most recent Pirates and Transformers, as well as the box office failure of Scott Pilgrim, seem to exist to prove me wrong.
As far as The Beaver goes, I'm willing to consider a little Gibson-hate in the equation. Trying to pull a warm-and-fuzzy after making a drunken verbal assault on Jews, leaving your wife and children for your mistress, and then spewing a sickeningly violent tirade at said mistress after she has your child makes a lot of people feel you're trying to pull one over on them.
