Last time I checked, LIVE offers digital sales to the 360, and not just small games. So I am going to guess that you already got your wish. Happy birthday!Superlordbasil said:regardless the ethics and possible problems a round of applause to valve for perhaps grabbing what could be one of the biggest gaming money bags in its history. If the vast majority of PC gamers went steam wards valve would literally become the PC market and if there was anyway to replicate this in the console market one day then the skies the limit
What the article is missing, and merely conjecturizing, is that Steam is out to control the market. Several Valve execs have openly expressed desire for competition. Perhaps Steamworks is offered freely to all developers and publishers. So what? It doesn't forbid them from also distributing to other digital services. Direct2Drive does offer many the same mainstream games that Steam does. I imagine so do others. As was mentioned in this thread, if anyone is keeping Steam at the top, it is the publishers. Try looking at it from their perspective. Direct2Drive doesn't distribute to certain countries, therefore limiting their sales area. D2D is also overdiscriminating in what they distribute. Why would you want to use them? Impulse barely has much exposure to the broader customer base. Why would you want to use them? Both of these handicaps can be overcome, which would help bring publishers to those distributors. And now we have Microsoft getting into the game with their store in Games for Windows LIVE. Though the only thing going for Microsoft there is they can throw money at that service to keep it alive. I don't expect them to put much effort into it to make it a feasible service for customers.Overlord59 said:It does seem as though the market is heading towards a Steam based monopoly. While I like Steam and use it (very) regularly I do use Impulse as well. I feel it is a shame that it seems as though Steam (and Valve) will control this because in my opinion Impulse and Stardock provide an excellent service which is just as good. Although, as shown from the article, this does not apply to the publishing side of things but the fact that this is a deciding factor for digital downloads to everyday people seems unfair to Valve's competitors.
This pretty much is another illustration that Steam isn't a monopoly. You pretty much illustrated that you can go to another source for your games, without feeling restricted or oppressed. Thank you sir, and have a good gaming session.incal11 said:Limited install is retarded , something you can't use as much as you like is not yours; you've been had, it's a rental, not something you bought.samsonguy920 said:You do still also have EA's use of SecuROM as well, but these days that merely limits the installs. And unless you have to reformat your hard drives often(and if you do you should just get a new hard drive or quit surfing the pron sites with malware), that shouldn't even become an issue.
If the game is good enough to be played again and again in the following years, that limited install scheme will hurt .
Though you can say most games using this scheme don't have much replay value.
I agree that Steam is a trojan, I don't want it, I will do without ...
It is a buffet where you are forced to eat for the rest of your life if you go in, and that is definitely EVIL.
This is an excellent point. Even if you consider Valve to have a monopoly on digital sales, I don't think that "automatically" makes them evil. They certainly deserve to be scrutinized a little more closely, but they pretty much got to where they are today by providing a good service and making people on both sides of the video game industry happy.The_root_of_all_evil said:One big problem: If a company can offer something that is better than all of it's competitors, and thus takes a huge chunk of the market - Is it actually fair to draw a line saying that the competitors must be entitled to a certain %?
They thought Demigod would be the exclusive that put them on the map. Didn't happen.Delusibeta said:The main problem I think the other distribution platforms have is a lack of killer apps. Sure, Impulse does have Sins of a Solar Empire, Galactic Civilisations and Total Annihilation, but they aren't ever going to be as popular as a Left 4 Dead or a Counter Strike. Look at the sales charts: in both Steam and Impulse exclusives make an extremely strong showing.
Basically, what Stardock needs to do is to create (or buy out) a very, very popular game, and get them to require the Impulse client in some form. Which leads to the second problem: Stardock doesn't like making the client manitory for retail games. Whichis noble of them, but it also makes it less likely for the end user to install and use Impulse.
Right now, the only other distribution platform with access to such large, popular exclusives is Games for Windows Live, thus is most likely to become the Steam challenger. Which sucks.
[Edit] Scratch Total Annihilation from the list of Impulse exclusives, it's now on GamersGate.
You can thank Impulse for that, ever since they started doing weekly sales steam and the other platforms jumped on the bandwagonark123 said:Plus, you get to do shit like buying Team Fortress 2 for 5 bucks when those crazy sales happen. Steam is a monopoly because the competitors suck ass.
What going to say something similar. This post is Win. There are lots of PS/360 only games, why should we be surprised that there are... Steam only games? I enjoy the steam platform a lot and they are a lot LESS restrictive than PS3/360. Such as I can edit files, saved games, make backups, and redownload on ANY* logged in PC I'm not.Dizko said:This is one of those topics that annoys the begeezes out of me.
There are two sides of the coin here, people need to think of Steam as a platform, not simply a digital distribution model, because that's what it is, a platform.
No one complains about the Xbox 360 being a closed platform, where Microsoft has absolute control. Should I be allowed to run software on my 360 to allow me to play PS3 games on it? Of course not, that's absurd. But we're quick to condemn anything that's even remotely similar on the PC. No one ever complains about Microsoft having a monopoly over Xbox 360 or Sony having one over Playstation.
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