Dinosaurs on a Spaceship
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I was surprised when the Dcotor let Solomon die because of how merciful he has been in the past describing himself as the man who "never would" (Thoth b fair that was the tenth doctor). I remember a trailer from the third episode where the doctor shows how his mercy has waned and why so I like that this is a development that will be explored rather than be confined to this episode.
A good recap, and a good episode. While it wasn't as intense as last weeks it was a good sci-fi romp, and we get to see some dinosaurs which the Doctor doesn't meet often enough. The last ones I remember, off hand, were...
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Actually that was 2010. I know you know, but just wanted to point it out for people who want to look for that episode.Susan Arendt said:
The ninth doctor went ape ---t over one dalek in the episode of that title so he's been kind of schizophrenic all along. not to mention what he does to the aliens who force him to become human. that was just brutal.
The moment I saw Mark Williams as Rory's dad I just said: YES! It's just one of those pairings that makes so much sense.
Say what you like about Christopher Ecclestone's "northern" Doctor but I thought he had potential. He played a man whose wounds were still fresh, who suffered survivor guilt and harboured a deep-seated hatred that could match even the Daleks themselves. It was a far stretch from those times during "Genesis of the Daleks" where the 4th Doctor wrestled with the notion of wiping out the Daleks forever, only to falter and allow time to run its course.
I think this is why Sylvester McCoy's 7th Doctor is my favourite, certainly in the later episodes of his run anyway. I loved the darkness that seemed to linger beneath his philosophic brooding, the way he always seemed to know more than everyone else but was never so arrogant that he needed to show it. Plus he wasn't above playing with Ace's mind and putting her in horrifying situations simply to see her reaction, see "Ghost Light."
This is very much a bone of contention for me. David Tennant's 10th Doctor started to wear on me by series 4 with his self righteous, no-gun policy. He'd wave his pacifistic nature around like some sort of banner which said "I'm better than you" and not in a good way. Add to the mixture his "daughter" who gleefully shouts something along the lines of: "Look dad! I could have killed them all, but I didn't!" Seriously?
Say what you like about Christopher Ecclestone's "northern" Doctor but I thought he had potential. He played a man whose wounds were still fresh, who suffered survivor guilt and harboured a deep-seated hatred that could match even the Daleks themselves. It was a far stretch from those times during "Genesis of the Daleks" where the 4th Doctor wrestled with the notion of wiping out the Daleks forever, only to falter and allow time to run its course.
I think this is why Sylvester McCoy's 7th Doctor is my favourite, certainly in the later episodes of his run anyway. I loved the darkness that seemed to linger beneath his philosophic brooding, the way he always seemed to know more than everyone else but was never so arrogant that he needed to show it. Plus he wasn't above playing with Ace's mind and putting her in horrifying situations simply to see her reaction, see "Ghost Light."
If anyone recalls the Classic Who, lets not forget THE VALEYARD.
Between the 11th and 12th Incarnations he shall be 'born'.
Maybe Motiff is able to pull his head of of his poorly thought up arse and make the 11th's fall lead into this creatures' creation.
Between the 11th and 12th Incarnations he shall be 'born'.
Maybe Motiff is able to pull his head of of his poorly thought up arse and make the 11th's fall lead into this creatures' creation.
Yeah, Matt Smith's Eleventh Doctor is a hell of a lot more ruthless than Tennant's Tenth. Way I see it, Ten tried to be a pacifist by confining his negative emotions a lot, which meant when he did lose it he'd wreak utter havoc (see Family of Blood, Waters of Mars, Runaway Bride...). Eleven is a lot more comfortable using that anger, which can lead to some unsettling shifts as he switches between the two subtly (see A Christmas Carol where you're not quite sure if he's threatening Kazran Sardick, and Eleventh Hour where he browbeats the Atraxi), and also means he's a bit more lenient about dishing out some payback but also slightly less destructive when he doesVault Citizen said:
Also, why no mention of the robots in the article They were voiced by Robert Webb and David Mitchell, it was like Peep Show...IN SPAAAAAAAACE!
One of the big points about the Silurians you don't cover is WHY they are under ground all over the place. As revealed in Doctor Who and the Silurians:
The Silurians were running the planet millions of years ago, with dinosaurs at their command, and being bothered by mammal ape pests. But then an object headed for the planet, the Silurians panicked, and went underground.
And now, it seems, sent a ship off, even through we haven't seen any other space ship faring technology...
Anyway the object didn't hit the planet, but instead took up orbit... and became the moon. Yep, that's where that moon thing came from. (And yes, people have been trying to fit that fact into our science since... but, hey, the DW universe isn't our one!)
Their hibernation chambers were to reactivate after the moon vanished, but they didn't, so Silurians are still around in the chambers until such time as humans keep awakening them.
Oh, and Harry was brought in because they weren't expecting Tom Baker to be cast and be so active. Harry was supposed to take the action role, but clearly the Doctor was up for it, so he was written out.
The Silurians were running the planet millions of years ago, with dinosaurs at their command, and being bothered by mammal ape pests. But then an object headed for the planet, the Silurians panicked, and went underground.
And now, it seems, sent a ship off, even through we haven't seen any other space ship faring technology...
Anyway the object didn't hit the planet, but instead took up orbit... and became the moon. Yep, that's where that moon thing came from. (And yes, people have been trying to fit that fact into our science since... but, hey, the DW universe isn't our one!)
Their hibernation chambers were to reactivate after the moon vanished, but they didn't, so Silurians are still around in the chambers until such time as humans keep awakening them.
Oh, and Harry was brought in because they weren't expecting Tom Baker to be cast and be so active. Harry was supposed to take the action role, but clearly the Doctor was up for it, so he was written out.
No chance, he has disregarded the classic series and swept aside most of the continuity. I'd like to return to the old continuity, but it won't happen.Tanis said:
I was actually kinda happy that The Doctor let Soloman die. For The Doctor to show him mercy after everything he'd done would've been stupid and naive as hell. Actually that's what I like most about this Doctor. Throughout the episodes we see him act all whimsical and fascinated and whatnot, yet we almost always see the issues underneath all that. You can tell he's lonely, you can tell that he doesn't really tolerate despicable people and so on and I think that that's fantastic about this particular Doctor.
Rory is such a good character. Not as in well written, well developed, or anything like that (he is). I'm saying his alignment is so Neutral Good.
12th and final incarnations, so it's a ways off yet...if it's going to be addressed.Tanis said:
I like this Doctor's morality, it's clear that while he is actually fascinated by the universe and curious as a newborn babe he knows what is going on and doesn't really hesitate to stop, kill or imprison things which could be of serious harm to him or others where he can. I like that there's been this sort of continuity with the Doctor's morality and feeling of godhood/power as well, a progression as the Doctors roll on and they face new experiences...