I fucking loved this episode. It's like Lynch and Frost snuck into my bedroom and nicked my fanfic.
26 year later: The new season of Twin Peaks.
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It was so close to fanservice and yet I wouldn't have it any other way. Cooper counting on the help of all the friends he made while he was Dougie one last time was so incredibly sweet and so incredibly triumphant. The only thing that was missing was seeing Jade one last time. If it had been my fanfiction there would have ben a 30 seconds scene of him stopping by Jade's place on his way to the casino and handing her the flowers the Mitchum Brothers gave him in the hospital. Oh, what? I like Jade.Johnny Novgorod said:
Nevertheless, practically all of his interactions with his family are some of the best Twin Peaks has ever been and it gives me hope that the show will end on a genuinely optimistic and hopeful note. There has been a lot of very dark and very cynical stuff in it and it's fine, I like dark any cynical things but I feel that many of these characters do deserve a happy end and it'd make me very happy to see them get one.
WE WANT MOARPsychedelicDiamond said:
Seriously, both myself and my better half beg... beg for more, for another season. This has been a wonderful journey! Some notes: I thought it was very interesting that Jeffries seemed to become a sort of kettle... or maybe more like a 3rd Stage Navigator? Either way I love the allusion, if it's intended or not. Also, I hope to see Donna in this last episode. Somehow.
We are both too tipsy for further communication, but pleased that Coop is back in the saddle!
It's very hard to put into words what I feel after watching this.
I'm not entirely sure if what I just saw was a very unusual and cryptic conclusion or shameless sequel bait but what I'm sure of is that it came out of left field. I was kinda with it until the end of episode 17 and then it became something different entirely and I'm not sure if I can make sense of it. So... at some point Cooper and Diane obviously entered another timeline. Or something. I'm pretty sure it's another timeline. In which a version of Laura is still alive. Is Carrie Page really Laura? She never outright denies it and the name Leland and Sarah seem to ring a bell for her. There's obviously something in this alternate timeline. I mean, it's where Mr. C wanted to go, right? That's the place the coordinates lead that he was pestering everyone about, I think. There's something important and valuable there and it's probably Carrie. What did bringing her to Twin Peaks accomplish? Fucked if I know, probably nothing. But the lights went out at the end when she screamed which means that... well, something happened. Electricity, now, that's been a theme. If the electricity goes out, what does that mean for the Black Lodge? Maybe it somehow closed the portal between the Black Lodge and our world.
But, okay, that aside. It was obviously all part of the giants plan. I mean, 430, Richard and Linda (and I totally called that it wasn't referring to Richard Horne), from the very first scene that's what Cooper was instructed to do. But did it work out or did something go wrong? He seemed pretty distraught at the end when he asked what year it is. Literally, is it future or is it past? Carrie was obviously about as old as Laura would be now, had she not died. And her scene in the second episode "I am dead, yet I live", this version of her is obviously still alive but what does it mean? And what did she tell Cooper? He didn't seem very happy about it.
Oh god, I can't wrap my mind around this. This show kinda broke me. I dunno, man, I was hoping for a more optimistic ending. Poor old Cooper, pretty much every season finale left him in a worse situation. Why can't the poor guy just get a happy ending? Well, at least in the original timeline things seem to be working out well. Mr. C is dead, Bob is destroyed (and for fucks sake, Lynch, I know you don't want to recast major roles but couldn't you have gotten some long haired stuntman for the british kid to beat up instead of that silly ass orb?) and whatever was posessing Sarah seemed to be pretty unhappy with what Cooper did in the past so, uh... their plans are foiled. Probably. Oh, and Janey E and Sonny Jim got their Dougie back. So I guess things worked out well for everyone but Cooper and maybe that's the best we can hope for.
I'm rambling. Either way, all of this left me with emotions neither the english nor the german language have words for but I think they're overall... positive?
I'm not entirely sure if what I just saw was a very unusual and cryptic conclusion or shameless sequel bait but what I'm sure of is that it came out of left field. I was kinda with it until the end of episode 17 and then it became something different entirely and I'm not sure if I can make sense of it. So... at some point Cooper and Diane obviously entered another timeline. Or something. I'm pretty sure it's another timeline. In which a version of Laura is still alive. Is Carrie Page really Laura? She never outright denies it and the name Leland and Sarah seem to ring a bell for her. There's obviously something in this alternate timeline. I mean, it's where Mr. C wanted to go, right? That's the place the coordinates lead that he was pestering everyone about, I think. There's something important and valuable there and it's probably Carrie. What did bringing her to Twin Peaks accomplish? Fucked if I know, probably nothing. But the lights went out at the end when she screamed which means that... well, something happened. Electricity, now, that's been a theme. If the electricity goes out, what does that mean for the Black Lodge? Maybe it somehow closed the portal between the Black Lodge and our world.
But, okay, that aside. It was obviously all part of the giants plan. I mean, 430, Richard and Linda (and I totally called that it wasn't referring to Richard Horne), from the very first scene that's what Cooper was instructed to do. But did it work out or did something go wrong? He seemed pretty distraught at the end when he asked what year it is. Literally, is it future or is it past? Carrie was obviously about as old as Laura would be now, had she not died. And her scene in the second episode "I am dead, yet I live", this version of her is obviously still alive but what does it mean? And what did she tell Cooper? He didn't seem very happy about it.
Oh god, I can't wrap my mind around this. This show kinda broke me. I dunno, man, I was hoping for a more optimistic ending. Poor old Cooper, pretty much every season finale left him in a worse situation. Why can't the poor guy just get a happy ending? Well, at least in the original timeline things seem to be working out well. Mr. C is dead, Bob is destroyed (and for fucks sake, Lynch, I know you don't want to recast major roles but couldn't you have gotten some long haired stuntman for the british kid to beat up instead of that silly ass orb?) and whatever was posessing Sarah seemed to be pretty unhappy with what Cooper did in the past so, uh... their plans are foiled. Probably. Oh, and Janey E and Sonny Jim got their Dougie back. So I guess things worked out well for everyone but Cooper and maybe that's the best we can hope for.
I'm rambling. Either way, all of this left me with emotions neither the english nor the german language have words for but I think they're overall... positive?
I guess it's not Twin Peaks if it's not dark, mistifying and unsatisfying by the end. Shoulda seen it coming.
I did see it coming, for better and for worse. In an ideal world the story would have ended with Mister C and Bob being defeated and Cooper spending episode 18 catching up with some of his old friends, helping the people of Twin Peaks with some smaller problems and then maybe retiring with Janey-E and Sonny Jim.Johnny Novgorod said:
It's not the ending we got and I didn't seriously expect it to happen. Mister C and Bob were the villains of season 3 the same way Leland was the villain of season 1 and Windom Earle was the villain of season 2. There were bigger powers at work and engaging them meant a sort of sacrifice. And I knew Cooper would have to sacrifice himself in some way. I just wish he had gotten a bit more time to spend with his old friends, and they with him. And, well, we with him.
So... yeah. I haven't felt the need to comment on it before because my attitude towards Twin Peaks had, thus far, been one of "meh, there are worse ways to kill an hour." I've long been fundamentally and irresolvably ambivalent in my opinion of David Lynch's work - I find that, when it's good, it's bona-fide genius, in the most literal sense of the word; when it's bad, it's the most insufferably smug, infuriatingly self-indulgent artsy-fartsy waffle I can conceive of... and that he tends to do both in exactly equal measure.
Episode 18, though, didn't just fall squarely in the latter category for me - it made the entire series worse in retrospect.
Episode 18, though, didn't just fall squarely in the latter category for me - it made the entire series worse in retrospect.