Archer Season 6 Review: Sploosh
- Thread starter Fanghawk
- Start date
Given how it ended I don't think they're going back to Vice. My money's on them continuing to be in the spy game, but as fully independents who are rogue and under the radar. Hell, I think the new season will start with them screwing over the CIA.EHKOS said:
On a side note though, is Woodhouse dead? Because he was missing for, like, the whole season, and they didn't have a part where his body was found or anything.
Woodhouse has been confirmed by the creators to be alive, and is said to have a bigger part in season 7Zontar said:
I liked this season, and liked the return to the earlier roots. I didn't mind vice, but I wasn't laughing nearly as much then as I was now. The writing and delivery was much better this season, and it was nice to see significant character growth over one season instead of 3.
Maybe he's not really Krieger, but instead one of the Krieger clones from Vice?Gorfias said:
I wonder if the Woodhouse thing was like what happened in the season...was it three's intro where Pam inexplicably went to Jamaica. Because that still bugs me. I know the episode must have cut, but I wish we could see a storyboard or something.F-I-D-O said:
OK, I gotta ask, what does people have against Archer Vice? I thought it was great. Hell, it was (in my opinion) probably the best season of Archer. Do people hate it just because they weren't spies anymore?
As for what they will be doing next season... mercenaries?
As for what they will be doing next season... mercenaries?
Maybe they just something against OUTLAW COUNTRY!!!!!!! and cocaine.Trucken said:
Although the Kenny Loggin's episode was pretty terrible.
I've no idea what the deal was with Vice either. It's not something that'd stay fresh for more than a season, but I found the whole "trying to sell a tonne of cocaine" plot device to keep the season coherent, while everything else went so far off the rails it explored hyperspace.Trucken said:
+1 on the mercenaries guess. ISIS working for the highest bidder is a potential comedy gold mine.
The one thing I'll say about this episode is the animation was top-notch.
Like, really really really good.
Like, really really really good.
I don't think it is Krieger. Remember when he said "Someone Archer cares about more than Lana" and everyone except Krieger (who had put her back together himself for Archer and his own pervesions) knew who she was.Gorfias said:
This entire season has greatly improved all the animations, from the shagging to the fighting. Super impressed by it.Abomination said:
The problem with Vice was that it felt like they didn't know what they wanted. While they may have had an overaching plot (sell cocaine), it just kept falling flat. The Cherleen(?) stuff just wasn't very well written, the character became massive caricatures of themselves, the drugs thing just felt cheap, the constant CIA checking them felt cheap, they ran out of good drug jokes about 5 episodes in, and despite having a fresh new perspective, the whole show felt tired and drawn out, even with several filler episodes they couldn't think of enough good material to make the rest interesting.Trucken said:
Compare it to this season, where they explored Archer and Lana's growth, where they really pushed the boundaries on their animation, where the writing was sharp and crisp (hell, they managed to create an entire episode set in a stuck elevator, the writing was strong enough to support what was effectively 20 minutes of just talking and arguing).
If anything, the fact they returned to the spies simply meant they could return to an area where they had experience crafting good plots and characterisation, as well as the fact they left Vice because they had already grown bored and wanted to go back to spies. Finally, the humour works so well because of the juxtaposition between an ordinary, boring work/office and the fantastical adventures of a spy being presented in such a way, as well as the juxtaposition between spy films and the reality that most people are arseholes, and that someone like James Bond would ACTUALLY be like Archer.
Not only is it fresh, but they've finally pulled the plug on some tired and bad jokes; Barry, Katya, Cyrel and Lana, Archer not being with Lana, the CIA are dickheads. They've opened up new areas to explore, they don't have to be tied down to the previous series, and maybe this time they'll have a firmer idea of where to go rather than "Drugs, Miami Vice, amirite?"
Am I the only person who hated Sitting with a passion? It felt like borderline character assassination for Lana. Her doing something incredibly assholish to Archer as vengeance for everything he's done? Stretching things but okay I could go with it. But, doing it in such a way that it GREATLY imperils her own child!? It seems completely at odds with everything she's been portrayed as. Especially given she didn't even say anything, much less instantly bludgeon to death, the actor when he he admitted he was using a real gun. And then throughout the whole season she has the gall to accuse Archer of being a reckless parent after she pulled that...
Literally (and I am using the proper use of the word "literally") the same joke through out the same episode/episodes, not evolution of the same jokes but outright repeating the same thing.Trucken said:
Nothing really came back to bite them as most episodes, be it a joke or a situation, usually stuff that happens in Archer has a bigger payoff latter on the episode.
Weird, aimless structure.
Those are enough reasons for me, this season was one of the bests, lets see if they can keep it up.
It's the episode after they fuck in the mansion, and Archer is going to make Stirfriday for Lana, so the gang gets the cyborg back to seduce Archer. It's before the Welsh episode.Gorfias said:
There are a couple of other moments where Krieger doesn't know things he should know, and it's played off as "Oh, Krieger" but are explained by this.
I agree.MoltenSilver said:
Personally, I think they should have kept it as Archer actually did accidentally give his baby for a Pakistani double agent rather than the deus ex ass pull they choose.
Actually the joke might be a bit different though.L. Declis said:
There are instances where Krieger doesn't know something he should, like the one you mentioned, but there are also instances that only make sense in context of the original ISIS Krieger like in this episode with "Oh and if I was Hitler's clone, wouldn't I look like Hitler?!"
To me it kinda looks like the original and at least one of the clones survived and they're taking turns being Krieger.
That was weird at the end, to what was until that point a good episode. Archer shows growth as a person and interest in being a parent to AJ, and it's the one where he shouts "Pam! Baby!" and rallies the whole no-longer-calling-themselves-ISIS crew to her defense. I liked how he talked to AJ at his apartment while fixing himself a Black Mexican (Tequila + coffee liqueur): "[garbled baby sounds]" "What? No, it's not racist."MoltenSilver said: