Barbas said:
Piecewise said:
Excessive swearing and caps, misuse of "rape" and "enabler". I'm going to keep this short:
It's not the same engine; it's never the same engine. I don't think it was discarded or rebuilt from the ground up - it's noticeably similar to players of the previous two - but you only need compare it to how the last two played to see that it's different both visually and mechanically. I have eyes to see its flaws, I don't dismiss them from my mind when I play. It is not shit at all, it is a very good game that a great deal of thought and effort was put into.
If you've been having a bad, glitchy, buggy experience with it then as someone who still can't get a modded copy of
New Vegas to run smoothly, I sympathize. But I can enjoy what I want, and I'm going to continue to do so.
Misuse of rape huh? What else would you call taking something and violently forcing it to perform actions which it clearly never intended or desired? And how is it a misuse of "enabler"? You're literally being given something that is riddled with flaws and giving it a near perfect score. You're telling them that this sort of thing is not only acceptable, but admirable. Why should they change?
The creation engine is an "upgraded" version of Gamebyro. They lie through their teeth and say it's not, but anyone who has modded the games or even pays attention to the way characters move or how objects and physics work can tell they're just Frankensteining gamebyro along into new games. I mean, we can get into a Ship of Theseus argument here over what constitutes a new engine, but anyone who played FO3 or Oblivion or Skyrim knows this is damn similar if nothing else. Better graphics (though still massively outdated) doesn't change the engine. Slapping on some visual effect code doesn't change the engine. The point is that if they took this old engine and modified it, if THEY made it, surely they should know how to use it after 5 damn years or however long the dev cycle was.
And I'm not asking you to stop enjoying the game. You can enjoy games with big flaws. Some of my favorite games have big fucking problems that I fully acknowledge. But the point is that you shouldn't say it is a "Very good Game" because it is not. It's a game you enjoy. It's a game with good parts, with parts that it does well, with parts that it improved. All that is true. But lets look at this as objectively as possible:
The graphics are subpar, both on the consoles and especially on pc. We can easily compare it to other cross platform games and see that it simply doesn't stand up.
The gameplay is nothing new. It's basically very similar to the last two with minor changes, the biggest of which tend to be stripping mechanics OUT of the system. They did add the whole base building thing, which is admirable, but the actual "day to day" mechanics aren't different in any major way. Thats not a bad thing, but it's not evolving either.
The RPG elements have been toned down, the conversations and choices are less in number, the choice screen is unclear because they went with the 4 button layout rather then just a menu, skills are gone, companions are immortal and thrust upon you instantly, etc.
The story isn't as good as we've seen in other recent majorly story focused releases. And considering this is an RPG, thats pretty important. It's not as goddamn nonsensical as FO3, but it's still not great. Whats worse is that it retreads a lot of old ground, misuses or ignores things from FO1 and FO2, often going so far as to completely contradict them.
I'm not saying that your enjoyment is wrong. Or that you should stop liking the game. I'm playing it now and enjoying it IN SPITE OF the flaws. What I'm saying is that Bethesda keeps getting a free pass for releasing buggy, unstable, unoptimized, graphically weak games and no one seems to call them on it. People hand wave so hard their elbow dislocates. Even if this is your game of the year, it should be a 7; because no matter how much fun you have with it, it is FLAWED. When Fallout comes out and it has Witcher 3 level graphics, doesn't run like crap, doesn't have animations tied to framerate so that pc users unlocking the 30fps lock suddenly find everything moving twice as fast, isn't full of bugs, has expansive rpg systems and interactions, etc. That is a 9 or a 10. That is a game we can honestly say we both enjoy and that is near flawless.
This is not. And it should not be considered such because people can't remove the hype goggles.