Karadalis said:
Then how come the only thing people usually remember about these characters are being "flamboyant gay magician" and "tomboy lesbian elf"?
That only leads me to believe you rub shoulders with people with peculiar perceptions of characters. I've discussed DA:I to death with all sorts of people since it came out, and neither of those oddly narrow monikers ring true. I'd go with 'smartass Tevinter' and 'adorable [depending on choices] psychopath hypocrite'.
That you see their sexuality as a defining trait seems to reveal more about you than the characters, the writers, or their fans. Particularly as unless you actually choose to RP a character attracted to either Dorian or Sera, their sexuality - as with Cortez in ME3 - barely has any relevance whatsoever. Unless you count just characters
being gay as proof of an 'issue' being pushed? In which case, why the hell isn't Cassandra's straightness representative of an agenda as well?
If any plotline or mention of a sexuality is suspect, then it surely stands to reason all such mentions are.
Compared with the cast from the mass effect series or dragon age origins deep characters these token minority characters inclusion seems solely based on flying that virtue signaling flag.
...ah, more talk of 'virtue signaling'. I'm sure if I said I loved BioWare's direction that'd just be 'virtue signaling' as well, right? Instead of, y'know, actually having fidelity of opinions and thoughts that differ from yours or other peoples?
Also you forgot some things: The "iron" bull man meat, the mentaly challanged errr.. i mean differntly abled child, the removal of desire demons and the overall weird "inclusive" nature of an organisation thats called the "inquisition"... while everyone else outside the inquisition was aparantly made up out of nazis
Dont know about you but "inquisition" is not exactly a word you would use for an organisation that could aswell be flying the rainbow flag. The very idea of an inquisition is to hunt down people who are different or have different beliefs then those the inquisition subscribes to.
I felt less like an inquisitor using any means possible to find the truth, and more like a social justice warrior who took the warrior part a bit to serius.
Considering how this nonsense and hack writing has plagued bioware ever since DA:2 im merely curious how they screw the pooch this time. (mass effect 3 was less affected by their hack writers because they where merely "wrapping up" the series and that most characters had allready been written... didnt stop them to put in the token flaming gay spaniard...)
Rather sounds (basic inclusivity - i.e. treating and valuing everyone equally, depending on their abilities - is "weird" since when?) like you're, ironically, the only person with an agenda in this. And the underlined shows you don't really remember the various conversations that deal with the difference between the first Inquisition's dark history (with its religiously dogmatic opportunism leading to bloodshed), and the current path - whether it can be different, or will suffer from mission creep and turn abusive of its power, is an ongoing theme from the very beginning of the game right up to the end of Trespasser.
Re the second underlined: c'mon, did you even play the game? The Inquisition wasn't formed to find "truth", it was ultimately formed by Cassandra and Leliana because the mage/Templar conflict - plus a leaderless Chantry reeling from having most of its command structure X'd out - meant there was no viable authority to deal with the whole Breach in the sky issue (Justinia's intent would've been the internecine conflict, pre-Breach). The PC's arc was to find out the source of the mark, sure, but that wasn't the Inquisition's goal.
Oh, and as for---
Considering how this nonsense and hack writing has plagued bioware ever since DA:2
Did you object to the gay relationships in Jade Empire (as optional there as in DA:O, DAII, all three Mass Effect's and DA:I)? BioWare's been endearingly reflective of the times for quite a while now. The only difference is that there's no commercial need to be ridiculously coy these days.
I'd expect and hope ME:A to be on par with DA:I in terms of character design and themes, even if ME's been the typically more male-gazey IP. Of course, at the moment 'it's a sci-fi thing and has a daft boost-jump feature' is pretty much all we know, so they could screw it up in all sorts of ways... I'd bet they nail the writing and character narratives, though, which is what I most care about.
