I was more confused over why the hell the people in this one ever left the 2nd room. Once the chains drop and acid girl is dead, there is nothing at all threatening anyone, yet they immediately take the clue to unlock the combination and proceed to the next round of being murdered.Johnny Novgorod said:How the hell does Jigsaw go as far as predicting where each person will be standing is beyond me.
I guess there was no obvious way out but forward.Jadak said:I was more confused over why the hell the people in this one ever left the 2nd room. Once the chains drop and acid girl is dead, there is nothing at all threatening anyone, yet they immediately take the clue to unlock the combination and proceed to the next round of being murdered.Johnny Novgorod said:How the hell does Jigsaw go as far as predicting where each person will be standing is beyond me.
Problem is that that they took no time to come to that conclusion, and it's just a barn. I mean sure, if they'd looked around, tried to break some walls (it is just a barn), and eventually gave up, that'd be fine. Or just paused to consider if sitting around for an hour might be preferable to exploring the next death trap. But nope, on they go without hesitation.Johnny Novgorod said:I guess there was no obvious way out but forward.
Certainly not a reboot as far as lore is concerned (I also don't think I've seen much beyond 3), but I could see where they're coming from in terms of future plot progression. It doesn't erase anything, but by retconning a current character into the history of the franchise to establish the foundation for a new villain for new movies, they've basically struck a compromise between doing a reboot and not abandoning their existing lore.Johnny Novgorod said:I'm seeing a lot of people calling this a soft reboot but I'm not sure why. Nothing in the movie erases or contradicts anything in the previous movies, I think (honestly I stopped watching around the third one so not sure); it doesn't add or build significantly in any new direction. You could probably fit in this movie at any point in the series chronology and it wouldn't matter.
Eliminate enough variables and you can predict the outcome. He targeted complete morons.Johnny Novgorod said:How the hell does Jigsaw go as far as predicting where each person will be standing is beyond me.
Really it's been the same since the good ol' Colosseum: people have always enjoyed watching gruesome deaths.Marter said:We'll forgive bad acting or writing if we get to see someone go through a creative torture device. I don't know what that says about us as an audience, but that's how it goes.
Plus a side helping of karma, since these victims, to greater or lesser degrees, have it coming, so you can feel (slightly) less guilty.RJ 17 said:Really it's been the same since the good ol' Colosseum: people have always enjoyed watching gruesome deaths.Marter said:We'll forgive bad acting or writing if we get to see someone go through a creative torture device. I don't know what that says about us as an audience, but that's how it goes.
My point exactly. And this is not meant as an insult, Jonbodhi. The entire point of this movie is to show people getting brutally murdered in creative ways.Jonbodhi said:Plus a side helping of karma, since these victims, to greater or lesser degrees, have it coming, so you can feel (slightly) less guilty.RJ 17 said:Really it's been the same since the good ol' Colosseum: people have always enjoyed watching gruesome deaths.Marter said:We'll forgive bad acting or writing if we get to see someone go through a creative torture device. I don't know what that says about us as an audience, but that's how it goes.
I got roped into seeing it with friends when Blade Runner 2049 was sold out (I thought it was a flop?). I went in grudgingly, with my arms mentally crossed, determined to brood through the whole thing, maybe take a nap. And...
I enjoyed it! Not great art, but who'd be fool enough to expect THAT in a 'Saw' movie? I haven't seen one since the first, which, oddly enough, I also liked more than I thought I would. As the reviewer said, I wasn't bored! It had a nasty energy to it that carried it along; it never slowed down!