Six Days in Fallujah Bad, "Family Friendly" Wii Shooter Good!

[Andy Chalk]

Six Days in Fallujah Bad, "Family Friendly" Wii Shooter Good!

The controversial shooter Six Days in Fallujah isn't dead yet, says Atomic Games [http://www.atomic.com/] President Peter Tamte, but right now he's focusing on another, more "family friendly" project: The upcoming Marines: Modern Urban Combat for the Wii.

A refresher course: Six Days in Fallujah, a "documentary wargame," was intended to be a backed out [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/90729-Six-Days-in-Fallujah-A-Documentary-Wargame] of the deal. Since then, Atomic has struggled to find a new publisher willing to take on the game.

The studio was eventually forced to Google [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/93696-Layoffs-Confirmed-at-Six-Days-in-Fallujah-Dev]) that despite the cuts, the company remains committed to finding a publishing partner and getting the game out the door.

In the meantime, however, Atomic's "sister" company Destineer [http://destineergames.com/] is getting ready to launch its own military-themed shooter, called Marines: Modern Urban Combat. The game is based on a Marine Corps training system originally created by Destineer in 2005, which was later released commercially as Close Combat: First to Fight for the PC, Mac and Xbox 360.

"One of our objectives with First to Fight that also carried forward to this project is to celebrate the values of the Marine Corps - honor, courage and commitment," Tamte said. "We view this more as an opportunity for the average consumer to understand more about Marines than they might get just by reading the newspaper."

While Six Days in Fallujah is "visceral, emotional and authentic," Tamte described Modern Urban Combat as "family friendly." Gamers can use the Wii Zapper to simulate an M16 as they battle AK47 and RPG-wielding Syrian and Iranian insurgents who are trying to spark a civil war in Beirut. Players will lead a team that includes a gunner, assistant gunner and rifleman, and will have access to the M249 SAW and grenades.

So if I'm reading this right - and by all means, correct me if I'm wrong here - a commercialized version of a Marine Corps training simulator is "family friendly" and perfectly okay, but the idea of using videogames to give adults some tiny degree of insight into the consequences of actually becoming a Marine and going off to war is completely beyond the pale. Is that it? Have I got that right?

Marines: Modern Urban Combat is scheduled for release on November 10, exclusively for the Wii. Six Days in Fallujah, on the other hand, will come out about a week after Hell freezes over.

via: Destructoid [http://www.destructoid.com/six-days-in-fallujah-not-dead-yet--152736.phtml]



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[SilentHunter7]

So if I'm reading this right - and by all means, correct me if I'm wrong here - a commercialized version of a Marine Corps training simulator is "family friendly" and perfectly okay, but the idea of using videogames to give adults some tiny degree of insight into the consequences of actually becoming a Marine and going off to war is completely beyond the pale. Is that it? Have I got that right?

Welcome to the wonderful world of Political Correctness. Please leave your logic at the door.

EDIT: I sincerely hope Atomic can shake off this recent series of setbacks. They're one of my favorite developers.

You know what. I'm going to buy this game. I don't even care how it plays, I'm going to buy it.

 

[Johnn Johnston]

Modern Urban Combat and Modern Warfare 2 both out on the same day.

Tactical naming, anyone?

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

So if I'm reading this right - and by all means, correct me if I'm wrong here - a commercialized version of a Marine Corps training simulator is "family friendly" and perfectly okay, but the idea of using videogames to give adults some tiny degree of insight into the consequences of actually becoming a Marine and going off to war is completely beyond the pale. Is that it? Have I got that right?

Sort of like making the Australian Zombies more grotesque so people won't be upset by them, isn't it?

 

[Yegargeburble]

So if I'm reading this right - and by all means, correct me if I'm wrong here - a commercialized version of a Marine Corps training simulator is "family friendly" and perfectly okay, but the idea of using videogames to give adults some tiny degree of insight into the consequences of actually becoming a Marine and going off to war is completely beyond the pale. Is that it? Have I got that right?

Welcome to the wonderful world of Political Correctness. Please leave your logic at the door.

Indeed. Political correctness and logic never seem to go hand in hand. For that matter, neither do politicians and logic... That may just be me, though.

 

[benbenthegamerman]

So if I'm reading this right - and by all means, correct me if I'm wrong here - a commercialized version of a Marine Corps training simulator is "family friendly" and perfectly okay, but the idea of using videogames to give adults some tiny degree of insight into the consequences of actually becoming a Marine and going off to war is completely beyond the pale. Is that it? Have I got that right?

Welcome to the wonderful world of Political Correctness. Please leave your logic at the door.

Indeed. Political correctness and logic never seem to go hand in hand. For that matter, neither do politicians and logic... That may just be me, though.

Reminder: the people who complain about what video games people play should not affect the descisions of a major company. ok, they just made a realistic game about the army, and people are going to speak out against it. BIG. FUCKING. DEAL. just ignore them. obama fired the "Fox = Assholes" guys for the same reason. just ignore em.

 

[cainx10a]

So if I'm reading this right - and by all means, correct me if I'm wrong here - a commercialized version of a Marine Corps training simulator is "family friendly" and perfectly okay, but the idea of using videogames to give adults some tiny degree of insight into the consequences of actually becoming a Marine and going off to war is completely beyond the pale. Is that it? Have I got that right?

Welcome to the wonderful world of Political Correctness. Please leave your logic at the door.

World of PC [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallujah,_The_Hidden_Massacre].

Oh well, I guess maybe I am biased because of my origins, but hey, have fun with your "arab killing simulators".

Edit: I still play those CoD4 because of it's fictional setting, but it's unforgivable when they are not going to show both perspective from the invaders and invaded side. It's just propaganda.

 

[SilentHunter7]

World of PC [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallujah,_The_Hidden_Massacre].

Oh well, I guess maybe I am biased because of my origins, but hey, have fun with your "arab killing simulators".

You must be biased, because as far as I know Six Days was never made. So calling it an Arab killing simulator without even knowing how it plays seems a bit ignorant. Especially when they SAID they were going to make the effects the battle had on the innocents a focus on the story.

 

[cainx10a]

World of PC [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallujah,_The_Hidden_Massacre].

Oh well, I guess maybe I am biased because of my origins, but hey, have fun with your "arab killing simulators".

You must be biased, because as far as I know Six Days was never made. So calling it an Arab killing simulator without even knowing how it plays seems a bit ignorant.

Other than shacknews report that it was pretty much an action game, uh, yeah, just plain ignorant, same as those praising Atomic for an attempt to make a unique emotional wargame.

 

[archvile93]

So if I'm reading this right - and by all means, correct me if I'm wrong here - a commercialized version of a Marine Corps training simulator is "family friendly" and perfectly okay, but the idea of using videogames to give adults some tiny degree of insight into the consequences of actually becoming a Marine and going off to war is completely beyond the pale. Is that it? Have I got that right?

Welcome to the wonderful world of Political Correctness. Please leave your logic at the door.

World of PC [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallujah,_The_Hidden_Massacre].

Oh well, I guess maybe I am biased because of my origins, but hey, have fun with your "arab killing simulators".

Edit: I still play those CoD4 because of it's fictional setting, but it's unforgivable when they are not going to show both perspective from the invaders and invaded side. It's just propaganda.

Well somehow I don't expect the game to maintain it's realism if you're shooting weapon weilding zombies in fallujah instead of Iraqi terrorists. It turns out most Iraqis (and therefore Iraqi terrorists) are middle eastern due to its location in the Middle East. Who knew huh?

 

[Jonny49]

It's going to flop harder than a 90 year old man's penis, sorry for sticking that image in your head. It's on the Wii, it's getting released 7 days before MW2 and to be honest the game looks ugly. Even if it is a good game, it'll get overshadowed by the Xmas game rush and get totally destroyed by MW2. It's a shame really.

 

[cainx10a]

So if I'm reading this right - and by all means, correct me if I'm wrong here - a commercialized version of a Marine Corps training simulator is "family friendly" and perfectly okay, but the idea of using videogames to give adults some tiny degree of insight into the consequences of actually becoming a Marine and going off to war is completely beyond the pale. Is that it? Have I got that right?

Welcome to the wonderful world of Political Correctness. Please leave your logic at the door.

World of PC [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallujah,_The_Hidden_Massacre].

Oh well, I guess maybe I am biased because of my origins, but hey, have fun with your "arab killing simulators".

Edit: I still play those CoD4 because of it's fictional setting, but it's unforgivable when they are not going to show both perspective from the invaders and invaded side. It's just propaganda.

Well somehow I don't expect the game to maintain it's realism if you're shooting weapon weilding zombies in fallujah instead of Iraqi terrorists. It turns out most Iraqis (and therefore Iraqi terrorists) are middle eastern due to its location in the Middle East. Who knew huh?

http://www.shacknews.com/featuredarticle.x?id=1110

Doesn't still excuse the fact that it's just a bunch of goons profiteering from an immoral war, oh and good read.

Iraqi terrorists? huh, yeah, they are middle-eastern, they are "shooting" at western troops with rocks, they must be terrorists.

 

[Teh_Doomage]

I seriously think Political Correctness has gotten way, way out of control. Scared to offend people? Grow a pair and say hey, this is how I feel, yes it might be offensive to some but it's my opinion on the matter.

PC is killing just about every medium now...it's just sad.

 

[Alex_P]

So if I'm reading this right - and by all means, correct me if I'm wrong here - a commercialized version of a Marine Corps training simulator is "family friendly" and perfectly okay, but the idea of using videogames to give adults some tiny degree of insight into the consequences of actually becoming a Marine and going off to war is completely beyond the pale. Is that it? Have I got that right?

:-(

That's pretty much why I've given up on the video-game industry entirely. I'll enjoy a few scraps here and there but I'm deeply convinced that video games are pretty stagnant as far as the kind of creativity I care about is concerned.

(Of course, I'm not convinced that Six Days was actually going to successfully do that, especially after looking at Call of Duty 4, where the gameplay undercuts and swallows up the handful of thoughtful scenes anyway.)

-- Alex

 

[sneakypenguin]

Six days was turning into just generic shooter game anyways from the early shows of it if I remember correctly. So no loss on that end.

 

[Graustein]

Am I the only one who thinks the "family-friendly" label comes chiefly from it being a Wii game and pro-American military?

 

[archvile93]

So if I'm reading this right - and by all means, correct me if I'm wrong here - a commercialized version of a Marine Corps training simulator is "family friendly" and perfectly okay, but the idea of using videogames to give adults some tiny degree of insight into the consequences of actually becoming a Marine and going off to war is completely beyond the pale. Is that it? Have I got that right?

Welcome to the wonderful world of Political Correctness. Please leave your logic at the door.

World of PC [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallujah,_The_Hidden_Massacre].

Oh well, I guess maybe I am biased because of my origins, but hey, have fun with your "arab killing simulators".

Edit: I still play those CoD4 because of it's fictional setting, but it's unforgivable when they are not going to show both perspective from the invaders and invaded side. It's just propaganda.

Well somehow I don't expect the game to maintain it's realism if you're shooting weapon weilding zombies in fallujah instead of Iraqi terrorists. It turns out most Iraqis (and therefore Iraqi terrorists) are middle eastern due to its location in the Middle East. Who knew huh?

http://www.shacknews.com/featuredarticle.x?id=1110

Doesn't still excuse the fact that it's just a bunch of goons profiteering from an immoral war, oh and good read.

Iraqi terrorists? huh, yeah, they are middle-eastern, they are "shooting" at western troops with rocks, they must be terrorists.

Last time I checked, they were shooting with AK-47s, RPDs, and RPGs for the most part. Granted it's not the best equipment, but it's still quite deadly in the right hands. Did you some bodies were even found with STG-44s? An excuse me for hating people who want to murder me and everything around me because I don't follow their religion to the letter and speak fluent Arabic (the only way to read the Quran as I'm told).

 

[Casual Shinji]

Maybe they should call the new game Shoot Mii?

 

[cainx10a]

So if I'm reading this right - and by all means, correct me if I'm wrong here - a commercialized version of a Marine Corps training simulator is "family friendly" and perfectly okay, but the idea of using videogames to give adults some tiny degree of insight into the consequences of actually becoming a Marine and going off to war is completely beyond the pale. Is that it? Have I got that right?

Welcome to the wonderful world of Political Correctness. Please leave your logic at the door.

World of PC [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallujah,_The_Hidden_Massacre].

Oh well, I guess maybe I am biased because of my origins, but hey, have fun with your "arab killing simulators".

Edit: I still play those CoD4 because of it's fictional setting, but it's unforgivable when they are not going to show both perspective from the invaders and invaded side. It's just propaganda.

Well somehow I don't expect the game to maintain it's realism if you're shooting weapon weilding zombies in fallujah instead of Iraqi terrorists. It turns out most Iraqis (and therefore Iraqi terrorists) are middle eastern due to its location in the Middle East. Who knew huh?

http://www.shacknews.com/featuredarticle.x?id=1110

Doesn't still excuse the fact that it's just a bunch of goons profiteering from an immoral war, oh and good read.

Iraqi terrorists? huh, yeah, they are middle-eastern, they are "shooting" at western troops with rocks, they must be terrorists.

Last time I checked, they were shooting with AK-47s, RPDs, and RPGs for the most part. Granted it's not the best equipment, but it's still quite deadly in the right hands. Did you some bodies were even found with STG-44s? An excuse me for hating people who want to murder me and everything around me because I don't follow their religion to the letter and speak fluent Arabic (the only way to read the Quran as I'm told).

I don't speak Arabic.

Never read the Quran which happens to be available in English, or french, and I've been told the translation is fine.

The Iraqis weren't trying to convert you to Sunni Islam or Shia Islam or pokemon Islam.

And if you bothered to check the facts about Fallujah's pre and post-invasion, civilians killed in fallujah were unarmed, the documentary above showed that war crimes did occur during and before the siege, whether to avenge the Blackwater's death, then that should be enough to see why making and releasing this game is wrong, specially if you are only going to focus on one side.

And I am only taking about Fallujah, not about every single other location where the resistance/insurgency/terruristslolololol was active.

Someone below just mentioned about "enemy soldiers" or resistance as I like who call it, no one wants their home town to get invaded by a bunch of trigger happy goons.

And for those who bothered to play Insurgency (yeah, they made a mod using Half-Life 2 about different battle scenarios in Iraq and Afghanistan), that's a decent Iraq-war game, which didn't aim to offend or pretend to be something else other than a cheap action game.