Before There Was Halo
Love it or hate it, Halo re-invented the shooter genre for the better.
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Love it or hate it, Halo re-invented the shooter genre for the better.
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Sorry Shamus, but that's not what you seem to say. Your point is about howShamus Young said:Love it or hate it, Halo re-invented the shooter genre for the better.
The word I'd use was re-invigorate.Bungie made the right game for the right hardware at the right time.
To be clear, that little splash of text on the front page is by the editor, not the article author. That's probably what the editor took away from the piece. (It's normally Susan, but she's at PAX right now so I don't know who wrote it this time.The_root_of_all_evil said:Sorry Shamus, but that's not what you seem to say. Your point is about howShamus Young said:Love it or hate it, Halo re-invented the shooter genre for the better.
Bungie made the right game for the right hardware at the right time.
Ah gotcha. It did seem a little odd.Shamus Young said:To be clear, that little splash of text on the front page is by the editor, not the article author. That's probably what the editor took away from the piece. (It's normally Susan, but she's at PAX right now so I don't know who wrote it this time.
So if the article and the teaser have a slightly different gist, that's why.
All the brown and realism wasn't Halo. Halo actually has some pretty colorful environments. Yes there's some browns but not much by today's standards.DiscoAtThePanic said:The only good thing Halo brought was Red Vs Blue. The FPS genre was evolving anyway and it has swung way too far to the "Brown Realistic Multiplayer First" side of things. if that was because of Halo, it certainly did not change shooters for the better. Its just the case of the biggest thing at the time taking credit for the overall evolution of a genre that had begun before it came out.
but the article said that Halo got us to where we are today with shooters. Well, not everyone likes where we are today with shooters, so maybe Halo did not change thinsg for the better, as Shamus asserts.Irridium said:All the brown and realism wasn't Halo. Halo actually has some pretty colorful environments. Yes there's some browns but not much by today's standards.DiscoAtThePanic said:The only good thing Halo brought was Red Vs Blue. The FPS genre was evolving anyway and it has swung way too far to the "Brown Realistic Multiplayer First" side of things. if that was because of Halo, it certainly did not change shooters for the better. Its just the case of the biggest thing at the time taking credit for the overall evolution of a genre that had begun before it came out.
And besides, it'd be kind of silly for a game about fighting aliens set 500 years in the future to be a basis for realism.
It changed things in terms of gameplay, not art style.DiscoAtThePanic said:but the article said that Halo got us to where we are today with shooters. Well, not everyone likes where we are today with shooters, so maybe Halo did not change thinsg for the betetr, as Shamus asserts.Irridium said:All the brown and realism wasn't Halo. Halo actually has some pretty colorful environments. Yes there's some browns but not much by today's standards.DiscoAtThePanic said:The only good thing Halo brought was Red Vs Blue. The FPS genre was evolving anyway and it has swung way too far to the "Brown Realistic Multiplayer First" side of things. if that was because of Halo, it certainly did not change shooters for the better. Its just the case of the biggest thing at the time taking credit for the overall evolution of a genre that had begun before it came out.
And besides, it'd be kind of silly for a game about fighting aliens set 500 years in the future to be a basis for realism.
But I was using Yahtzee's term for the modern Realistic shooter.Irridium said:It changed things in terms of gameplay, not art style.DiscoAtThePanic said:but the article said that Halo got us to where we are today with shooters. Well, not everyone likes where we are today with shooters, so maybe Halo did not change thinsg for the betetr, as Shamus asserts.Irridium said:All the brown and realism wasn't Halo. Halo actually has some pretty colorful environments. Yes there's some browns but not much by today's standards.DiscoAtThePanic said:The only good thing Halo brought was Red Vs Blue. The FPS genre was evolving anyway and it has swung way too far to the "Brown Realistic Multiplayer First" side of things. if that was because of Halo, it certainly did not change shooters for the better. Its just the case of the biggest thing at the time taking credit for the overall evolution of a genre that had begun before it came out.
And besides, it'd be kind of silly for a game about fighting aliens set 500 years in the future to be a basis for realism.
Whether thats good or bad is up for debate.
By your own admission, you've never even played Halo. How can you comment on it?DiscoAtThePanic said:The only good thing Halo brought was Red Vs Blue. The FPS genre was evolving anyway and it has swung way too far to the "Brown Realistic Multiplayer First" side of things. if that was because of Halo, it certainly did not change shooters for the better. Its just the case of the biggest thing at the time taking credit for the overall evolution of a genre that had begun before it came out.
Tribes has the health kit and shield pack, to be fair. I say has since it is still played!-|- said:Halo's shield was ground breaking. You could go a long way on one health bar, whereas with other shooters before then you'd have to just give up.