7 year old girl shot dead while selling some lemonade

[MahMahnator2992]

Stray bullet...sorta makes this less grim, IMHO. I mean, she's not any less dead, but someone intentionally killing a 7 year old is hard to fathom, someone trying to kill someone else and someone getting accidently killed who happened to be 7 is tragic, but "part of the plan" or whatever.

I'm inclined to disagree. If someone wanted her dead then at least her death would have some sort of purpose, albeit a twisted, horrifying, and misguided one. As things stand it is just such a POINTLESS waste of what was the beginning of a life full of opportunity and potential. Nothing was set in stone at this point, she could have done absolutely anything she wanted with her life. But now she's is dead for not a single god damn reason.

We need to do something about all of this gang violence, it's just absolutely sickening and serves no purpose but to keep us withheld to a primitive, tribal level. If that means taking our guns away, go for it. How can we Americans have such an obsessive infatuation with guns that we can somehow justify countless deaths like this "for the greater good"? Disgusting.

 

[Charli]

...I have no reaction to this other than to wish the perpetrators of this crime live the most depressive, depraved existence bestow-able by human kind.

Condolences to the family.

What a horrible waste of life...A stray goddamn bullet.

 

[Souleks]

Little girls stepping up in our turf trying to muscle in on our lemonade ring.
yep,that is Chicago in its current state collateral damage all over the place.

 

[Cakes]

Heaven had asked to move out of the neighborhood where the family had lived for six months because of the violence there.Seriously those parents are fucking idiots for bringing their daughter to a place like that. Hope the lower rent was worth it assholes, cause now you've got plenty left over for her funeral arrangements!

If they were living in a place like that (i.e. an impoverished, crime-ridden neighbourhood) I seriously doubt they had much choice. Think before you make yourself look like an insensitive prick.

 

[zelda2fanboy]

Sad thought: kids die this way all the freaking time. The only reason this story is noteworthy is because she was actually outside doing something when it happened. A lot of times they get shot in the house by stray bullets.

But hey, don't snitch! Snitches get stitches. Gotta protect our beloved gang members and drug dealers. I bet he really showed that guy he was shooting at. Made him feel like a big man.

 

[Clearing the Eye]

Someone got shot in a ghetto slum? It's hard to muster up sympathy the ten millionth time it happens. This week. Kind of like those people that live in Hurricane Alley getting fucked by a hurricane, or people crying on the news because the house they build on a volcano has lava running through the living room. Not her fault she was born in a shithole, but not the least bit surprising that said shit hit the fan and sprayed her good.

Now if this were to happen in an area not comparable to a third world war zone, the shock would conjure some empathy. But I hesitate to bother lending any mind to this incident. Get all torn up when this happens and you'll be dead by year's end.

Life sucks. That's all I got.

 

[Squilookle]

Another sad story from the US involving guns... when will they learn? probably never

This was a couple of gangsters having a shoot out, and a little girl getting hit accidentally. I can absolutely guarantee you that none of the people in that shoot out had legally bought and licensed guns, and I can also guarantee you that no gun control laws would have prevented them from illegally buying them.

Maybe not never, but not for a long long time with comments floating around like that.

 

[zelda2fanboy]

Heaven had asked to move out of the neighborhood where the family had lived for six months because of the violence there.Seriously those parents are fucking idiots for bringing their daughter to a place like that. Hope the lower rent was worth it assholes, cause now you've got plenty left over for her funeral arrangements!

If they were living in a place like that (i.e. an impoverished, crime-ridden neighbourhood) I seriously doubt they had much choice. Think before you make yourself look like an insensitive prick.

I was going to side with you and call troll bait, but.. think about it. No one has to live anywhere, at least not in this country. They couldn't have known their kid would get killed, their kid could have gotten killed anywhere, and their kid didn't deserve to die... but... saying they had no choice is a little short sighted. There's always choice all the time. I doubt they're going to continue living there now. I could be wrong, but I didn't think the west side of Chicago was the particularly shitty part. I thought it mostly sucked in the south and east sides of town.

Believe me, property is cheap as shit down here in the boondocks (an hour outside of Chicago). It's no picnic here either (there are quite a few shootings), but no little kids have gotten shot selling lemonade lately. It costs a lot of money to live near the city, even in the crap parts of town. If they lived there, it was probably because they wanted to live there.

 

[zelda2fanboy]

Double post. Captcha tricked me. But yeah, I'll take this opportunity to say that I'm probably somehow wrong in my previous post.

 

[TakeyB0y2]

Up here in Calgary we have only had like 5 (Checks) Wait no only 4! And the first did not happen till like march...

REPRESENT!

OT: I agree with the OP... Not gonna get much sleep tonight with this in mind.

And... 250 homicides, and only within the last 6 months? I had no idea Chicago was so troubled. Honestly, I think the money the family saved up to go to Disneyland would've been better spent getting the hell out of their neighborhood... Permanently! But Chicago being the size it is, I imagine rent prices are crazy no matter where you live in that city. Not that they'd have to stay in Chicago anyways...

 

[Beffudled Sheep]

At least it made the news. Shit I remember when my first friend was murdered it didn't even make a small section in the local paper. I hate it when kids get killed, so much wasted potential (plus the memories) but it happens. Police are scared, out-numbered, under-funded, under-paid and just can't be everywhere. Sucks but shit happens.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

Stray bullet...sorta makes this less grim, IMHO. I mean, she's not any less dead, but someone intentionally killing a 7 year old is hard to fathom, someone trying to kill someone else and someone getting accidently killed who happened to be 7 is tragic, but "part of the plan" or whatever.

I'm inclined to disagree. If someone wanted her dead then at least her death would have some sort of purpose, albeit a twisted, horrifying, and misguided one. As things stand it is just such a POINTLESS waste of what was the beginning of a life full of opportunity and potential. Nothing was set in stone at this point, she could have done absolutely anything she wanted with her life. But now she's is dead for not a single god damn reason.

We need to do something about all of this gang violence, it's just absolutely sickening and serves no purpose but to keep us withheld to a primitive, tribal level. If that means taking our guns away, go for it. How can we Americans have such an obsessive infatuation with guns that we can somehow justify countless deaths like this "for the greater good"? Disgusting.

Well for one thing gun control only takes guns away from law abiding citizens. You really think outlawing them are going to stop gang members from using them? Gangs don't follow the rules to begin with. Outlawing something in society only creates a black market for whatever has been banned, and thats worse because it can't be regulated.

Allowing guns in this country, but keeping them regulated, hurts the black market... ergo helps keep unlicensed weapons out of the hands of bad guys. Ideally you want the rules just strict enough to be able to track ever bullet to a guns owner, but light enough that people rather buy guns the (easier) legit way then from the black market guys.

 

[idarkphoenixi]

Hows that for depressing news? Guess I wont be sleeping easy tonight.

It seems a young girl was getting ready for a family trip to Disney World, even got her hair done. She was sitting outside of her Chicago home selling self-made lemonade and other sweet treats. That is until a seemingly random shootout happened in the area. Sad to say she was hit by a stray bullet and was killed almost immediately.

http://www.inquisitr.com/266763/chicago-7-year-old-girl-shot-dead-while-selling-lemonade/?obref=obinsite

This happened over a week ago according to the article but I haven't found any threads discussing this. Apologies if it's already been mentioned

Guess you didn't get the memo.

Shootings in Chicago are a regular thing. To say they are random, is just being 'ill-informed'

AKA Ignorant.

Besides that view you have already made prominent... do you have a thoughtful opinion on this matter? Or ya just going for the provocative post thingy?

No need to start name calling. I never claimed to be some kind of professional news anchor who knows intimate details on areas of a country I never intend to live in. It's a story I saw and thought I'd just show other people, simple as that. Guess that makes me ignorant though, oh well.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

Heaven had asked to move out of the neighborhood where the family had lived for six months because of the violence there.Seriously those parents are fucking idiots for bringing their daughter to a place like that. Hope the lower rent was worth it assholes, cause now you've got plenty left over for her funeral arrangements!

If they were living in a place like that (i.e. an impoverished, crime-ridden neighbourhood) I seriously doubt they had much choice. Think before you make yourself look like an insensitive prick.

I was going to side with you and call troll bait, but.. think about it. No one has to live anywhere, at least not in this country. They couldn't have known their kid would get killed, their kid could have gotten killed anywhere, and their kid didn't deserve to die... but... saying they had no choice is a little short sighted. There's always choice all the time. I doubt they're going to continue living there now. I could be wrong, but I didn't think the west side of Chicago was the particularly shitty part. I thought it mostly sucked in the south and east sides of town.

Believe me, property is cheap as shit down here in the boondocks (an hour outside of Chicago). It's no picnic here either (there are quite a few shootings), but no little kids have gotten shot selling lemonade lately. It costs a lot of money to live near the city, even in the crap parts of town. If they lived there, it was probably because they wanted to live there.

Strain theory dude, how can you move to a better place when you don't have the economic means too? Unless one chooses to break law and/or opts for a lower standard of living.

Though you're right to an extent. If I wanted a house in this country for a couple thousand dollars I could. It would be in the poorest part of Detroit, but I certainly could do it.

 

[zelda2fanboy]

The south side of Chicago is not the worst section of the U.S. (the probably belongs to the unholy Flint, Detroit, Lansing combo in Michigan) but it is not a place you want to be in very long. Got a rock put threw my car while I was riding to a White Sox game. And that was in broad daylight.

This is sad, but not surprising.

Another sad story from the US involving guns... when will they learn? probably never

This was a couple of gangsters having a shoot out, and a little girl getting hit accidentally. I can absolutely guarantee you that none of the people in that shoot out had legally bought and licensed guns, and I can also guarantee you that no gun control laws would have prevented them from illegally buying them.

While true, it would have been harder to obtain them.

Flawed logic is flawed. It's not hard to obtain drugs, but those are illegal.

By the way, remember when it was illegal to own a handgun in the city of Chicago? Yeah, I don't think that prevented anyone's death then or now, but I'm sure it sent some people to prison. Because if there's one thing this country needs, it's more people in prison. And fines. Gotta have fines.

 

[Clearing the Eye]

While true, it would have been harder to obtain them.

Making more laws for them to break would have made it harder? lolwut

Know what they did after a school shooting in the U.S.? Made it illegal to carry guns on school property. Know what happened? Fuck all. Know why? People who want to kill people don't give a shit how many laws they are breaking. Go ahead, try your best to make it almost impossible to get a gun. The only ones affected will be the law abiding citizens--the ones not breaking the law in the first place.

Schools:

• Illegal to carry guns
  Metal Detectors
  Security patting people down
  
  Number of fatalities from guns - a lot.
  

Gun conventions:

• Legal to carry guns
  Lots of guns
  Lots of people buying guns
  
  Number of fatalities from guns - none.

Laws don't stop people from killing each other. You can make all the laws in the world and not a single thing will change. You need to change the culture and treat poverty if you want gun related killings to slow.

As an aside: the largest school massacre in U.S. history was carried out with a homemade bomb.

 

[Patathatapon]

You guys want to know the worst part?
Her first name was Heaven Heaven had asked to move out of the neighborhood where the family had lived for six months because of the violence there.Seriously those parents are fucking idiots for bringing their daughter to a place like that. Hope the lower rent was worth it, cause now you've got plenty left over TO PAY FOR HER FUNERAL!

The thing is, they probably couldn't AFFORD a better home, and the parents may not have been able to do anything about it.

 

[zelda2fanboy]

They had been living there for six months and if they had enough money to go to Disneyland they had enough money to move out of a neighborhood that their seven year old daughter knew was too dangerous. My family never had enough money for a trip to Disneyland but there are no gangs where I live. I can't really have much sympathy for parents who don't give the safety and welfare of their children the highest priority.

Capcha: Many happy returns
Now THAT's insensitive

Sorry to say it, but this man speaks the truth.

Strain theory dude, how can you move to a better place when you don't have the economic means too? Unless one chooses to break law and/or opts for a lower standard of living.

Though you're right to an extent. If I wanted a house in this country for a couple thousand dollars I could. It would be in the poorest part of Detroit, but I certainly could do it.

See above post. Like I said, Chicago is expensive. There are cheaper less shitty places to get to, and these people probably could have moved. It's not like Detroit where it's been crap for years and no one cares, so everything is cheap. Chicago's a relatively nice place that just so happens to have roving bands of killers.

 

[zelda2fanboy]

While true, it would have been harder to obtain them.

Making more laws for them to break would have made it harder? lolwut

Know what they did after a school shooting in the U.S.? Made it illegal to carry guns on school property. Know what happened? Fuck all. Know why? People who want to kill people don't give a shit how many laws they are breaking. Go ahead, try your best to make it almost impossible to get a gun. The only ones affected will be the law abiding citizens--the ones not breaking the law in the first place.

Schools:

• Illegal to carry guns
  Metal Detectors
  Security patting people down
  
  Number of fatalities from guns - a lot.
  

Gun conventions:

• Legal to carry guns
  Lots of guns
  Lots of people buying guns
  
  Number of fatalities from guns - none.

Laws don't stop people from killing each other. You can make all the laws in the world and not a single thing will change. You need to change the culture and treat poverty if you want gun related killings to slow.

As an aside: the largest school massacre in U.S. history was carried out with a homemade bomb.

No one being killed at gun shows isn't true.
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-01-14/justice/massachusetts.gun.show.verdict_1_christopher-bizilj-westfield-sportsman-s-club-gun-show?_s=PM:CRIME

This is a ghastly thread.

 

[Patathatapon]

Laws don't stop people from killing each other. You can make all the laws in the world and not a single thing will change. You need to change the culture and treat poverty if you want gun related killings to slow.

Exactly! That's why we should guillotine them, charge people to see (victims families get in free), and reduce taxes slightly (for money earned and money saved on prison)!

Laws aren't a repellent, neither is twiddling your thumbs for 10 years. Death is a bigger consequence.

NOTE: I live in Canada so we don't execute people, I don't know how the U.S.'s system works but I know they do executions. I don't need to be educated too much either because I don't care enough.