Treblaine said:
the doom cannon said:
Treblaine said:
Will this convince a gun amnesty from Gangsters in the Chicago area? They've had a week.
In the UK when this sort of thing happens (usually a stabbing) there is an amnesty to hand in lethal weapons anonymously without legal consequence just to get them off the streets. Apparently in the UK people walk in with fully loaded full-auto AK47 assault rifles to turn them in.
Are there gun amnesties in cities like Chicago? How effective are they? If not, why not?
Edit: not that less guns really solves anything, I'm just looking at this aspect what It might contribute to the issue.
The criminals won't be turning in their weapons, and neither would citizens who cherish the right to own personal firearms. Gun amnesty doesn't do anything in a country in which guns are legal.
Well the way gun amnesty works is playing to a gambler's paranoia that most criminals follow.
The implicit threat is that when the gun amnesty is over the police then raid all the local crims and anyone caught illegally owning a gun gets and extra bad sentence from how that poor little girl just died and how they didn't even take advantage of the gun amnesty.
Now the trick here is the police can't catch every gun, but the crims don't know where is going to get raided. So a load of them dump their guns before the dragnet comes by. So overall more guns are off the streets.
Chicago I hear has VERY strict gun laws and anyone with a criminal history isn't allowed to have any firearm on their premises.
But I don't know, when you have SO MANY guns in circulation, it can get a bit futile, like jumping into a pool WITH the towel. Better embrace the wetness and go with the flow
The important thing is that tragedies like this little girl being shot by a stray bullet need to end or at least be made less likely. If america is going to live with a high number of guns, how do you stop these people spraying bullets across streets with little kids caught in the cross fire? Inventive for gangsters to be more discriminating in their gangland shootings? Such as harsher penalties for accidentally killing a child than DELIBERATELY killing an adult gangster?
We don't have anything like that, as far as I know, because it would probably impeded the Second Amendment in some way.
Second, you can't just raid houses at random, or in a given area, because someone got shot. You need a lot of probable cause to get a search warrant, to raid a particular house, to look for a particular item, related to a particular crime. By the time all of that is said and done, the homies have all warned each other.
Third, Americans don't trust the government. It's not in our nature. If you say, 'turn in yer guns, and we won't arrest for ', you're going to get a very negative back-lash.
Fourth, you clearly don't understand the gang banger mentality. There are three paths every 'gangsta' (stupid term, by the way. What the hell is a 'gangsta', and why does it not summon the red squiggly line?) accepts into their life. They will end up in prison, a hospital bed, or in a box. You cannot leave most gangs, or they will kill you. You have to be a douche, to hang with the douches. A lot of gangs have you commit crimes, and then get beat in, to join. Alternatively, some gangs will allow female members to get sexed in. Yes, they are exactly like what they sound to be. Lastly, they just aren't very good shots. Have you ever seen how a gang banger holds a gun? Not practical.
How do you combat this? Better education systems would be a start. Wouldn't make much a dent in the problem, but it's a start. Second, you'd have to find a way to make a short life of bitches, bling, and cars look less appealing then a long life of hard work, and moderate success.
You can't really make harsher laws, with a lot of states out-lawing the death penalty, and anything that doesn't involve a prisoner getting to sit in an air conditioned cell, with cable TV, being seen as 'cruel an inhumane'. Maybe send their asses into a field to work 16 hours a day would do some good. Give 'em bologna sandwiches and water, their only day off is Sunday, and they have to work to get their TV time. I'm willing to bet doing that would solve a lot of problems, actually.
Here in Arizona, there would be a lot more cotton being picked off the plants, which would bring the farmers more money, especially since they could contract out the convicts for much less then even an illegal migrant worker, which would be good for the economy. The tax payers would have to pay less for the prison system, and a life of hard labor might deter a lot of future criminals.
Sorry, kind of got off track there.
Really, though a lot of it is going to come down to personal accountability. It seems to be a dying trend in America, these days. In times past, I'm told, each person was expected to look after themselves. They knew that they could fail, and that it would be their fault.
No, bad Faraja, you're going off topic again.
Alternatively, we can just invade Russia and start WWIII.
