8 Countries That Have Declared Independence From England

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8 Countries That Have Declared Independence From England

Today we celebrate the independence of the United States of America. In the spirit of the holiday let's also celebrate some other countries that also declared their independence from England. So let freedom ring and have a cup of tea on the Nanny-land.

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Albino Boo

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The number of countries that have declared their independence from England = 0

Australia was not independent from the United Kingdom in 1907, it was granted dominion status. Dominion status granted full control of domestic policies and had the right to be regularly consulted on foreign policy but no separate foreign policy.
 

Lono Shrugged

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Such a shame to miss out on an opportunity to educate people just turns into pictures of flags and copy pasted dates from wikipedia.

Also I guess that Ireland's eight hundred year history with England is worth nothing. It's not like any Hollywood stars were in a movie about it's independence or anything.
 

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Lono Shrugged said:
Such a shame to miss out on an opportunity to educate people just turns into pictures of flags and copy pasted dates from wikipedia.
For a complete list of all the countries go here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_that_have_gained_independence_from_the_United_Kingdom

Lono Shrugged said:
Also I guess that Ireland's eight hundred year history with England is worth nothing. It's not like any Hollywood stars were in a movie about it's independence or anything.
I was thinking the very same, ah well
 

Colour Scientist

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>Creates list of countries who have declared independence from England.
>Forgets best one,

I now declare this thread the property of butthurt people from the Republic of Ireland. :D
 

Andy Shandy

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Colour Scientist said:
>Creates list of countries who have declared independence from England.
>Forgets best one,

I now declare this thread the property of butthurt people from the Republic of Ireland. :D
Doesn't even have the decency to wait until we've decided up north either.

You can add butthurt Scots to this list too :D
 

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Andy Shandy said:
Colour Scientist said:
>Creates list of countries who have declared independence from England.
>Forgets best one,

I now declare this thread the property of butthurt people from the Republic of Ireland. :D
You can add butthurt Scots to this list too :D
Wait, Scots? As in Scotland? Aren't you still technically a part of England? I know you're your own separate country and all, but you're still connected to them via the UK, and thus more or less under English control, right?

Either way, Scotland's never exactly "declared independence."
 

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TheNewGuy said:
Either way, Scotland's never exactly "declared independence."
Thing is...They might do it soon though.

Basically if you didn't know, the scottish are going to be having a referendum over whether to remain part of UK or to split off like Southern Ireland.

So by this time next year or w/e, scotland might very well be independent.
 

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TheNewGuy said:
Andy Shandy said:
Colour Scientist said:
>Creates list of countries who have declared independence from England.
>Forgets best one,

I now declare this thread the property of butthurt people from the Republic of Ireland. :D
You can add butthurt Scots to this list too :D
Wait, Scots? As in Scotland? Aren't you still technically a part of England? I know you're your own separate country and all, but you're still connected to them via the UK, and thus more or less under English control, right?

Either way, Scotland's never exactly "declared independence."
Have been growing murmurs of independency in the past 3-4 years, apparently when they do shake off England they want to work with Scandinavia: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/bye-bye-england-snp-plans-closer-scandinavian-ties-after-independence-6272337.html
 

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I know of no countries that have declared independence from England, I know quite a few that have declared their independence from the British Empire though. A very large part of Ireland declared independence from the United Kingdom and Scotland may well soon declare it's independence from Great Britain.

Still, no country has declared its independence from England. Even though the North should, bloody southern fairies.
 

Andy Shandy

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TheNewGuy said:
Andy Shandy said:
Colour Scientist said:
>Creates list of countries who have declared independence from England.
>Forgets best one,

I now declare this thread the property of butthurt people from the Republic of Ireland. :D
You can add butthurt Scots to this list too :D
Wait, Scots? As in Scotland? Aren't you still technically a part of England? I know you're your own separate country and all, but you're still connected to them via the UK, and thus more or less under English control, right?

Either way, Scotland's never exactly "declared independence."
That's what we're deciding quite soon (18 September) actually. Was just making a joke that it was rude for this list to go up before Scotland has even decided =P
 

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Andy Shandy said:
TheNewGuy said:
Andy Shandy said:
Colour Scientist said:
>Creates list of countries who have declared independence from England.
>Forgets best one,

I now declare this thread the property of butthurt people from the Republic of Ireland. :D
You can add butthurt Scots to this list too :D
Wait, Scots? As in Scotland? Aren't you still technically a part of England? I know you're your own separate country and all, but you're still connected to them via the UK, and thus more or less under English control, right?

Either way, Scotland's never exactly "declared independence."
That's what we're deciding quite soon (18 September) actually. Was just making a joke that it was rude for this list to go up before Scotland has even decided =P
Ohhhhh. Okay, I get it now. I totally missed the joke there. Thanks.
 

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TheNewGuy said:
Andy Shandy said:
Colour Scientist said:
>Creates list of countries who have declared independence from England.
>Forgets best one,

I now declare this thread the property of butthurt people from the Republic of Ireland. :D
You can add butthurt Scots to this list too :D
Wait, Scots? As in Scotland? Aren't you still technically a part of England? I know you're your own separate country and all, but you're still connected to them via the UK, and thus more or less under English control, right?

Either way, Scotland's never exactly "declared independence."
English control? Don't make me laugh bitterly. The fucktarded way devolution's been handled, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland all have more power than England these days. Scotland can dictate it's own affairs on a good number of issues, thanks to its devolved parliament, while England only has Westminster, copnatining MPs from all regions of the UK. This creates the bullshit circumstance where Scottish Westminster MPs can still vote on issues, such as University tuition fees, that can never affect their constituents.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Lothian_question

As it stands, Scottish MPs are the reason English students graduate with at least £25-30,000 debt (more for new undergrads, thanks to the current tory administration). While Scottish students still don't have to pay/borrow a penny for their higher education.

Thing is, I don't want to see Scotland leave the UK, but the current system is stacked against England, and I'd like to see something change for the better. And pigs may fly.
 

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Macsen Wledig said:
albino boo said:
The number of countries that have declared their independence from England = 0
Wrong.

Guess what you are totally incorrect. Scotland never declared independence from England in the medieval period , it denied that English Kings ever had any rights in Scotland and always was a sovereign nation. All other independence came after the union of the crowns.
 

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albino boo said:
Macsen Wledig said:
albino boo said:
The number of countries that have declared their independence from England = 0
Wrong.

Guess what you are totally incorrect. Scotland never declared independence from England in the medieval period , it denied that English Kings ever had any rights in Scotland and always was a sovereign nation. All other independence came after the union of the crowns.
Ah, I see, you think you're being clever.

I think it's clear from the article that when someone says in England in this discussion they are talking about Great Britain and how many countries have declared independence from Britain? Plenty.

Not to mention how wrong you are. Just because the Scottish (or the Welsh and the Irish for that matter) didn't think that England had a rightful claim on their land didn't mean that they didn't struggle for independence from English influence and occupation. Or were the wars of Welsh and Scottish independence called such because all the good war names were taken? Did the Welsh not declare independence from the English in 1400 and fought to try and keep that independence for 15 years? Whilst they may have eventually failed to say that no-one declared independence from England, as if everyone in Britain welcomed their invaders with open arms is plainly and evidently wrong.
 

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Macsen Wledig said:
albino boo said:
Macsen Wledig said:
albino boo said:
The number of countries that have declared their independence from England = 0
Wrong.

Guess what you are totally incorrect. Scotland never declared independence from England in the medieval period , it denied that English Kings ever had any rights in Scotland and always was a sovereign nation. All other independence came after the union of the crowns.
Ah, I see, you think you're being clever.

I think it's clear from the article that when someone says in England in this discussion they are talking about Great Britain and how many countries have declared independence from Britain? Plenty.
Calling the UK England is like calling the US California. England is one of four nations that together make up the UK, they are not synonymous. I see the negative stereotypes about Americans and geography are unfortunately true in this case.
 

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BlackStar42 said:
Macsen Wledig said:
albino boo said:
Macsen Wledig said:
albino boo said:
The number of countries that have declared their independence from England = 0
Wrong.

Guess what you are totally incorrect. Scotland never declared independence from England in the medieval period , it denied that English Kings ever had any rights in Scotland and always was a sovereign nation. All other independence came after the union of the crowns.
Ah, I see, you think you're being clever.

I think it's clear from the article that when someone says in England in this discussion they are talking about Great Britain and how many countries have declared independence from Britain? Plenty.
Calling the UK England is like calling the US California. England is one of four nations that together make up the UK, they are not synonymous. I see the negative stereotypes about Americans and geography are unfortunately true in this case.
I'm not American, I live in Britain but I understand that vernacular and formal language are different, something that you unfortunately do not. I wouldn't blame anyone for calling the UK England since that's what it essentially is, an island with many cultures and nations which are dominated by one, England. When people think of British stereotypes, they don't think of the Irish, Scottish, Welsh, Manx or Cornish, they think of some upper class English toff.
 

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I rather despair at how the terms England, Britain and the United Kingdom are erroneously used as interchangeable by people. While I can understand the confusion to a degree, to see this in a feature rather smacks of a lack of research.
 

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Macsen Wledig said:
albino boo said:
Macsen Wledig said:
albino boo said:
The number of countries that have declared their independence from England = 0
Wrong.

Guess what you are totally incorrect. Scotland never declared independence from England in the medieval period , it denied that English Kings ever had any rights in Scotland and always was a sovereign nation. All other independence came after the union of the crowns.
Ah, I see, you think you're being clever.

I think it's clear from the article that when someone says in England in this discussion they are talking about Great Britain and how many countries have declared independence from Britain? Plenty.

Not to mention how wrong you are. Just because the Scottish (or the Welsh and the Irish for that matter) didn't think that England had a rightful claim on their land didn't mean that they didn't struggle for independence from English influence and occupation. Or were the wars of Welsh and Scottish independence called such because all the good war names were taken? Did the Welsh not declare independence from the English in 1400 and fought to try and keep that independence for 15 years? Whilst they may have eventually failed to say that no-one declared independence from England, as if everyone in Britain welcomed their invaders with open arms is plainly and evidently wrong.
No I'm being factually correct.
 

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albino boo said:
Macsen Wledig said:
albino boo said:
Macsen Wledig said:
albino boo said:
The number of countries that have declared their independence from England = 0
Wrong.

Guess what you are totally incorrect. Scotland never declared independence from England in the medieval period , it denied that English Kings ever had any rights in Scotland and always was a sovereign nation. All other independence came after the union of the crowns.
Ah, I see, you think you're being clever.

I think it's clear from the article that when someone says in England in this discussion they are talking about Great Britain and how many countries have declared independence from Britain? Plenty.

Not to mention how wrong you are. Just because the Scottish (or the Welsh and the Irish for that matter) didn't think that England had a rightful claim on their land didn't mean that they didn't struggle for independence from English influence and occupation. Or were the wars of Welsh and Scottish independence called such because all the good war names were taken? Did the Welsh not declare independence from the English in 1400 and fought to try and keep that independence for 15 years? Whilst they may have eventually failed to say that no-one declared independence from England, as if everyone in Britain welcomed their invaders with open arms is plainly and evidently wrong.
No I'm being factually correct.
So neither Scotland, Wales or Ireland ever fought against the English for their independence? The Welsh never rebelled and declared their independence in 1400 and there wasn't 15 years of war between the two countries before Henry V brought them to heel? Edward I didn't meet the Guardians of Scotland in Norham in 1291 and force them to accept him as Lord Paramount of Scotland? Edward I didn't get King John of Scotland to swear homage to him in December of that year essentially making Scotland a vassal state? This didn't cause a war of independence to be waged by Scotland against the English? The English didn't sign a the "treaty of Edinburgh-Northamton" in 1328 were the English crown was forced to recognise the the Kingdom of Scotland as fully independent?

I guess you are right and everyone else is wrong. Stop the press! We need to re-write the history books because the 1st & 2nd Scottish wars of Independence and Last War of Independence never happened.