8 Nicolas Cage Movies To Be Avoided

MarsProbe

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lacktheknack said:
Any Nicolas Cage films should be avoided?

CON AIR?

WHAT IS THIS?

This is a new low in these lists, Schuyler!
Agreed. Con Air was a great film! For shame, Escapist, for shame!
 

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I would disagree with the Con Air pick as well. Enjoyable movie, watched it more than once.
Haven't seen the other movies, so can't say anything about them.
 

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Arslan Aladeen said:
Wouldn't it have been easier to list the 8 Cage movies worth checking out? I guess you run into the problem of coming up with that many.
Indeed, that would have been TRULY impressive.
 

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Con Air is an OTT action movie, not Inception. In every single way, it hits the mark. I don't know anyone who doesn't like it. It is everything a Michael Bay movie wishes it was.

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Con Air featured a fantastic cast but unfortunately a sub-par director and producers. Nic and his cast of stars shine but they're led through a maze of poor filmmaking.
Simon West isn't the most talented director in Hollywood, though he's proven to be a workmanlike action director, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt - unfortunately...

The film's producer was Jerry Bruckheimer. Regardless of your opinion of his body of work, describing the forth highest grossing director of all time as "sub-par" is inherently nonsense.

And I know that you can't be referring to the executive producers, since they just handle financing and have no direct control over the movie, beyond costs.
 

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The Wicker Man is the greatest comedy of this generation.
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That's what I was gonna say. Wicker Man is amazing!

OT: Did this man just besmirch the name of Con-Air? Nic Cage risked his LIFE to save that bunny and you will respect that!
This!

Seriously! "why couldn't you have just put the bunny back in the bag?" is one of the best post-mortem one liners I ever heard!


aside from Con Air, I agree with most of the list, though I never saw Drive Angry.
 

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The Wicker Man is the greatest comedy of this generation.
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Yes, truly a great comedy, a lot of fun, very weird and nick's character was quite loopy. Con air was enjoyable with a good cast, so even with its problems it isn't one to avoid.
 

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MarsProbe said:
lacktheknack said:
Any Nicolas Cage films should be avoided?

CON AIR?

WHAT IS THIS?

This is a new low in these lists, Schuyler!
Agreed. Con Air was a great film! For shame, Escapist, for shame!
And why target Nic Cage? He's the star of Vampire's Kiss, my favorite movie ever made! D:
 

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To be honest "Drive Angry" and "Con Air" do not belong on this list, I enjoyed both of those. I personally would have probably put "Kiss Of Death" on this list, though I suppose it does show how versatile he actually is.

To be fair though "Drive Angry" was not a success by all accounts, it seems to mostly be a cult classic. I suspect it was just too weird to succeed at the mainstream box office.

"Con Air" is arguably one of the movies that helped make Nicolas Cage into the star he is, by showing he could do action as well as the whole "Honeymoon In Vegas" thing (why isn't *THAT* movie on this list). It's not the best action movie of all time by any means, but consider that movie is part of why he's possibly going to be in an "Expendables" sequel and quite possibly playing the same character as that movie.... which got hype because love it or hate it, it
did become kind of iconic.

That said, yes, Nicholas Cage is awesome, and he's produced a rather substantial body of work. Needless to say there are going to be some real stinkers in there.

I will also say that his version of "The Wicker Man" deserves to be considered one of the greatest stinkers of all time. I blame a bad script and director though, more than the central premise itself. The original "Wicker Man" became something of a cult classic, and was fairly unique especially for it's time, it actually helped create some of the tropes you see recycled in horror movies. You *COULD* make a good movie by modernizing the basic premise, but simply
put nobody has managed to do it yet.

I'll also say that timing is key, horror movies in particular go in cycles, and we're seeing something of a resurgence again, right now I think if someone wanted to try and do "Wicker Man" they could probably get the people, funding, and writing together to do a decent job, and the audience is also more primed and looking for something like that than when Nic's version came out.
 

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Mr. Q said:
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I can understand the Wicker Man remake and Ghost Rider being on this list, but Con Air was fun imo. If I find it on a cable movie channel, I tune in and enjoy the hammy goodness from the likes of Cage and John Malkovich.

And no mention of Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance? That sequel makes the first Ghost Rider look like The Dark Knight. Not even Idris Elba or Christopher Lambert (I was surprised to see him in that) could save this roasted turkey from Hell.
What? The second Ghost Rider is infinitely better than the snorefest that is the first one. The first one was a by-the-books Hollywood clunker. The director and writers for Spirit of Vengeance realized they had Nic Cage in a motherfucking Ghost Rider movie and cut loose.
And there in lies the problem of Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance. They cut loose without thinking "Hey! This movie is getting so fucking goofy that Disney might slap us with a restraining order. Don't you think we should dial it down a bit?"

It's so over the fucking top, its becomes a demented Warner Brothers cartoon on acid. There are moments that made me think "WTF" out loud. For instance, why was the main character spinning like a top after being blown up in the construction site scene? Why was Ghost Rider posing like he was performing Hamlet the first time he enters the movie? I never thought I'd see a CGI flaming skeleton ham it up in a movie, but Nicolas Cage proved me wrong.
The film was made by Neveldine/Taylor, directors of the Crank movies and Gamer. There is no statute of limitations for these guys. Go ahead and watch the making of Crank: High Voltage. THAT is how movies in this era SHOULD be made.
 

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Kurt Cristal said:
Mr. Q said:
RedEyesBlackGamer said:
Mr. Q said:
I can understand the Wicker Man remake and Ghost Rider being on this list, but Con Air was fun imo. If I find it on a cable movie channel, I tune in and enjoy the hammy goodness from the likes of Cage and John Malkovich.

And no mention of Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance? That sequel makes the first Ghost Rider look like The Dark Knight. Not even Idris Elba or Christopher Lambert (I was surprised to see him in that) could save this roasted turkey from Hell.
What? The second Ghost Rider is infinitely better than the snorefest that is the first one. The first one was a by-the-books Hollywood clunker. The director and writers for Spirit of Vengeance realized they had Nic Cage in a motherfucking Ghost Rider movie and cut loose.
And there in lies the problem of Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance. They cut loose without thinking "Hey! This movie is getting so fucking goofy that Disney might slap us with a restraining order. Don't you think we should dial it down a bit?"

It's so over the fucking top, its becomes a demented Warner Brothers cartoon on acid. There are moments that made me think "WTF" out loud. For instance, why was the main character spinning like a top after being blown up in the construction site scene? Why was Ghost Rider posing like he was performing Hamlet the first time he enters the movie? I never thought I'd see a CGI flaming skeleton ham it up in a movie, but Nicolas Cage proved me wrong.
The film was made by Neveldine/Taylor, directors of the Crank movies and Gamer. There is no statute of limitations for these guys. Go ahead and watch the making of Crank: High Voltage. THAT is how movies in this era SHOULD be made.
I've seen both of those movies on DVD. Definitely their best work so far. Every time I watch either movie, I keep thinking "So this is what a Troma movie looks like with an actual budget but without the monsters." Unless you count Jason Statham as the unstoppable monster. And I don't take that "Troma movie" comment lightly since Troma president Lloyd Kaufman makes a cameo appearance in Crank: High Voltage. Plus, for those of you who haven't seen the movie, keep an eye open for the late David Carradine.
 

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Man, I love me some Nic Cage. I think he doesn't take his career too serious, which is why so many bad movies are starring him. BUT the thing is even in bad movies he's the best part of them making most of them at the very least watchable and even the just generally bad ones worth a campy sort of following. There are far worse performances of "great" actors in bad movies than Nic Cage's flops. And theres no call for Con Air or Drive Angry to be on this list.
I also have to say his best credit was not trading on the family name when he started out, which he easily could have done. And he seems to relish paying his dues as an actor. Either that or he just gets scripts in the mail and spreads them out on his lawn choosing them by way of lawn darts over the back... Still I see him as the A-List B-actor much like Bruce Campbell. Y'know I'd love to see those two team up in a movie just to compete for the biggest ham award.
 

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Gona have to join the chorus singing the praises of Con Air. It's hardly a masterpiece of film, but come on, you have one of the movies that made Cage a bona fide action star, and skipped over Season of the Witch, one of the worst pieces of garbage ever cobbled together in the name of a buck? By all that is holy, Season of the Witch was beyond awful.
 

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Tune in again next week when we list 8 movies in which something explodes.

Wouldn't it have been faster to name the good films he's done?
 

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...Still I see him as the A-List B-actor much like Bruce Campbell. Y'know I'd love to see those two team up in a movie just to compete for the biggest ham award.
I think that would make the universe implode, which is probably why it has never happened.
 

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Yeah... I actually don't remember what it was about, I just remember the scene with Jared dying and that I sort of liked it.:)
 

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Yeah... I actually don't remember what it was about, I just remember the scene with Jared dying and that I sort of liked it.:)
Of course you did you depraved fangirl.
 

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Drive Angry is great. It has just the right amount of Cage scene chewing without going too overboard. It has Amber Heard delivering a solid performance in her role and William Fitchner steals every scene he's in. I know the movie as a whole isn't a good movie in the artistic sense but it is damned fun(no pun intended).