Hawki said:
Rastrelly said:
Disagree with Horus, might be able to second Abaddon though.
Well, Horus was the guy to lead all that shite, and he planned everything brilliantly; he was called Warmaster for a reason. Abbaddon, on the other hand, only hinted as being really brilliant. Up till recently he was called Failbaddon the Armless.
Hawki said:
Rastrelly said:
He'd probably make the cut, but Mephisto probably gets the rank of 'most evil,' what with being the Lord of Hatred. Also, I'll give a shoutout to Adria, even if she isn't a leader. Demons are slaves to their own natures (like angels), but Adria willingly chose her path, sacrificing her own daughter included).
Well, yes, it could be either of brothers, but Diablo is the most recognizable.
Hawki said:
Rastrelly said:
Not sure if he counts. It's up to the reader's interpretation, but as I saw it, "Big Brother" was just a construct for the Party, same way they likely constructed, same way as Emmanuel Goldstein is likely constructed as the boogyman the Party can blame everything for. I could nominate O'Brien though, even though he's more a Party lackey.
Well, yeah, Big Brother is most likely not an actual person... But he is the most real one of them all.
Hawki said:
Rastrelly said:
Maybe. Haven't read much of Dune, but while he's brutal in his attempt to erradicate House Atreides, it's an attempt that has the blessing of the Pardishah Emperor. Harkonnen is more systemic of the Imperium's bickering houses, even if he's no saint himself.
Or I think. Like I said, not that familiar with the Dune universe.
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Dune is pretty gray on moral scale, even more then modern all-favoured Game of Thrones. But even in-universe baron was described by Bene Gesserit as "completely mentally perverted", which basically means "evil psychotic madman".