Nice to see the inclusion of some great titles from before the advent of 3D graphics!
Oh, wait...
They must have been eaten by a grue.
Oh, wait...
They must have been eaten by a grue.
8 Video Games Everyone Needs To Play
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I expected the list to be different of course, but most of your choices doesn't seem like 'something for everyone' type games. I can only agree with Portal, as it's nothing too extreme and not too hard, as well as it feeling like something unique.
I think every game will have certain elements that could turn many people away from it. I would like to know the reasons for Portal if you don't mind sharing? I've just never heard any of them before.Lunar Templar said:
I know why Minecraft is on that list but I never was much into LEGO as a kid and I really could not care any less about a LEGO type game you play from the inside out. Great concept. That is for people who are not me.
None of the old original FPS's were even remotely interesting to me...ever.
We have GTA to thank for nearly every open world game out there so can't argue with that one at all even though playing as and glorifying criminals never appealed to me at all.
I should really give Diablo 2 a second chance after the horrid experience I had with a demo years back.
Sorry Bethsoft but Fallout 3 is hands down the worst installment of the series (I'm not counting Tactics as it was only set in the setting and in my opinion not actually a Fallout game). Easily the most lifeless open world game I have ever seen. I could clearly see that their heart was more into a new Elder Scrolls game than that. Something something opinions and I enjoyed New Vegas far more.
Heck really I can only get behind Skyrim and Red Dead Redemption on this list. I really, really want to play the latter but it will never see a PC port.
My list would include Starcraft, Warcraft, Pirates! (the original Microprose version) The Shining Force Series, the Panzer Dragoon series, Dragon Warrior 4, any installment of the Final Fantasy series up to 7 and Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic and the Mass Effect series.
Again, something something opinions.
None of the old original FPS's were even remotely interesting to me...ever.
We have GTA to thank for nearly every open world game out there so can't argue with that one at all even though playing as and glorifying criminals never appealed to me at all.
I should really give Diablo 2 a second chance after the horrid experience I had with a demo years back.
Sorry Bethsoft but Fallout 3 is hands down the worst installment of the series (I'm not counting Tactics as it was only set in the setting and in my opinion not actually a Fallout game). Easily the most lifeless open world game I have ever seen. I could clearly see that their heart was more into a new Elder Scrolls game than that. Something something opinions and I enjoyed New Vegas far more.
Heck really I can only get behind Skyrim and Red Dead Redemption on this list. I really, really want to play the latter but it will never see a PC port.
My list would include Starcraft, Warcraft, Pirates! (the original Microprose version) The Shining Force Series, the Panzer Dragoon series, Dragon Warrior 4, any installment of the Final Fantasy series up to 7 and Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic and the Mass Effect series.
Again, something something opinions.
I didn't know about this. It will be nice playing van buren for more than one screen ^_^Darknacht said:
The problem is that Bethesda has the rights to anything that is fallout related.
Maybe it will be the sequel to wasteland 2...
well I've played them all, if briefly in some cases, I like all the games on the list, but can't help but feel it could've used a few older ones, like maybe some Crash Bandicoot or Spyro, I remember Wolfenstein 3D being a fun game, but it wasn't a "must play" in my opinion (then again, I don't really like first-person games all that much) there's not a huge amount of variety in the genres here and nothing pre-PS2 era at all, and not only is there absolutely nothing from Nintendo (whether you like them or not to not acknowledge a Nintendo title at all in a list like this is just not right. Also, no Metal Gear? doesn't seem right, I expected at least one Batman title to be on here as well, it may be a bit series-fatigued now but the combat system in Arkham Asylum was revolutionary at the time
Opinions on whether a specific game should or should not be included aside, why are both GTA3 and RDR and both Fallout 3 and Skyrim on the list, especially since the opening paragraph states that each game on the list "transcend their perspective [sic] genre"? Both pairs of games basically fill the same niche.
On a side note: Not to be a dick, but really? "Perspective" genre? That's something I'd expect to see in a teenager's YouTube comment or Tweet or something.
On a side note: Not to be a dick, but really? "Perspective" genre? That's something I'd expect to see in a teenager's YouTube comment or Tweet or something.
I... What? I can understand Morrowind vs Skyrim and Fallout 2 vs Fallout 3, but Zelda and Minecraft? They're nothing alike. Seems really odd since the other games you listed were related to the games you suggested they replace.ZippyDSMlee said:
FO3 is unplayable out of the box even with the DLC, put FWE wanders edition mod on it and its worthwhile. SKyrim is a sad mess watered down for sells....jklinders said:
Yeah it certainly wont be a full version of Fallout 3: Van Buren. I'm hoping its a post-apocalyptic game with more of a Fallout style. The Wasteland series is doing very good with the some what more grounded right after the apocalypse setting but I would also like to see what they can do with a hundreds of years later the world is full of ghouls and super-mutants setting.Fcbook Del Orto said:
too many first person shooters, skyrim was buggy crap, suggesting minecraft is the same as suggesting pokemon.
Why are platformers/moba/mmorpg/turned base strategy/real time strategy/fighting genres completely unrepresented.
This speaks more that the author loves first person action adventure games and not much else.
Why are platformers/moba/mmorpg/turned base strategy/real time strategy/fighting genres completely unrepresented.
This speaks more that the author loves first person action adventure games and not much else.
As soon as I saw this post, I decided I wanted to go into the forums for a good helping of rage, passive aggressiveness and snobbism. While I understand this list is not correct (since these will never ever be correct), I love how almost everyone here is preaching their Absolute Truth ? like they?re George W. Bush himself! It?s great to feed on, real delicious.
I get Minecraft. Many won't agree as its not for them, but it is genre defining. It basically invented the genre [Not really, but it bought it to mainstream].
Wolfenstein? Never played it. I'll assume its one of those "Helped define modern FPS" games. If that's the case, perhaps Halo: CE or CoD: Modern Warfare would be more appropriate, not that I'm a fan of either.
GTA? I guess. Never really been my thing, but I get it for 'genre defining' open world gameplay.
Diablo II? I guess, 'genre defining' dungeon crawler gameplay.
Fallout 3? Haven't played it, but don't we already have genre defining open world? Maybe F3 does something different and deeper. Can't entirely agree, but W/E.
Portal? I can understand. One of the only modern puzzle games, and the only one that's become mainstream. A largely unique game, I can accept it.
Red Dead Redemption? Ok, we've already had 2 open world things. This seems to get on the list because "Open world, AND WILD WEST =D", so I'm gonna have to disagree. If we're talking games people need to play, with part of the reason being 'transcending their genre', 3/8 aren't gonna be open world.
Skyrim? Ok, hell no. Not only is it a thoroughly mediocre game, and not at all genre defining, it is also the fourth open world game on this list. Half the list is open world games. Now if they were truly deserving, fine, but 'transcend their genre'? 4 games don't transcend the same genre, and I'm sure I'd probably find it very similar playing Skyrim, then Fallout, then Red Dead, then GTA. Specifics may be different, but by and large I'd enjoy them for much the same reason, find they had much the same faults, and feel rather similar playing them.
Maybe I'm wrong, someone correct me if I am, but it seems very... Eh.
Games to replace 3 of our open world ones:
-Mass Effect. The first, as its not only the one that introduced them, but also the one that featured them most prominently due to the lackluster other gameplay elements. I'm talking about the dialogue wheel, and choices. Playing the dialogue was half the game in Mass Effect [It got progressively lesser the more the series has gone on], thereby transcending classical shooter and CRPG games. Its also not terribly unforgiving for it to be on a "Everyone must play list". Really, any of Bioware's games could probably go here, but Mass Effect is probably the best I can think of to showcase this point.
-A game from the Tycoon Series, or the Civilization series, or the Age of Empires series, or an old RPG game, old Flight Sim - ect, ect, ect.
-Kerbal Space Program. Making a game out of rocket science. Not everyone's cup of tea, but something different and worth trying.
-If we MUST have another open world RPG, Dragon Age Inquisition does it the best I've seen. Lots of stuff to do, well made world, the distractions still tie in, though sparingly, to the main plot, and story is still a big focus in the game. The world reacts to what you do, you have a customisable stronghold where friends you make along the way can meet you, and all over its the best put together open world game I've played. Well, pseudo open world anyway. Maybe that'll change when the Witcher 3 comes out.
-On that note, the Witcher 2. A game where planning and thought is important, as well as an action RPG, where your choices actually change things in a big way. I guess this could be a toss up for Mass Effect really, as both are kind of about the dialogue and choices. Where Witcher does the choices really well, as well as some nice gameplay and a brilliantly built world, and Mass Effect does the dialogue as a whole brilliantly, but fumbles a bit on gameplay, though with a better written story.
I can see a heavy open world bias in this list, Bethesda and Rockstar in particular. Seems more of a "Games I like" than "transcending their genre" list because of this IMO.
Wolfenstein? Never played it. I'll assume its one of those "Helped define modern FPS" games. If that's the case, perhaps Halo: CE or CoD: Modern Warfare would be more appropriate, not that I'm a fan of either.
GTA? I guess. Never really been my thing, but I get it for 'genre defining' open world gameplay.
Diablo II? I guess, 'genre defining' dungeon crawler gameplay.
Fallout 3? Haven't played it, but don't we already have genre defining open world? Maybe F3 does something different and deeper. Can't entirely agree, but W/E.
Portal? I can understand. One of the only modern puzzle games, and the only one that's become mainstream. A largely unique game, I can accept it.
Red Dead Redemption? Ok, we've already had 2 open world things. This seems to get on the list because "Open world, AND WILD WEST =D", so I'm gonna have to disagree. If we're talking games people need to play, with part of the reason being 'transcending their genre', 3/8 aren't gonna be open world.
Skyrim? Ok, hell no. Not only is it a thoroughly mediocre game, and not at all genre defining, it is also the fourth open world game on this list. Half the list is open world games. Now if they were truly deserving, fine, but 'transcend their genre'? 4 games don't transcend the same genre, and I'm sure I'd probably find it very similar playing Skyrim, then Fallout, then Red Dead, then GTA. Specifics may be different, but by and large I'd enjoy them for much the same reason, find they had much the same faults, and feel rather similar playing them.
Maybe I'm wrong, someone correct me if I am, but it seems very... Eh.
Games to replace 3 of our open world ones:
-Mass Effect. The first, as its not only the one that introduced them, but also the one that featured them most prominently due to the lackluster other gameplay elements. I'm talking about the dialogue wheel, and choices. Playing the dialogue was half the game in Mass Effect [It got progressively lesser the more the series has gone on], thereby transcending classical shooter and CRPG games. Its also not terribly unforgiving for it to be on a "Everyone must play list". Really, any of Bioware's games could probably go here, but Mass Effect is probably the best I can think of to showcase this point.
-A game from the Tycoon Series, or the Civilization series, or the Age of Empires series, or an old RPG game, old Flight Sim - ect, ect, ect.
-Kerbal Space Program. Making a game out of rocket science. Not everyone's cup of tea, but something different and worth trying.
-If we MUST have another open world RPG, Dragon Age Inquisition does it the best I've seen. Lots of stuff to do, well made world, the distractions still tie in, though sparingly, to the main plot, and story is still a big focus in the game. The world reacts to what you do, you have a customisable stronghold where friends you make along the way can meet you, and all over its the best put together open world game I've played. Well, pseudo open world anyway. Maybe that'll change when the Witcher 3 comes out.
-On that note, the Witcher 2. A game where planning and thought is important, as well as an action RPG, where your choices actually change things in a big way. I guess this could be a toss up for Mass Effect really, as both are kind of about the dialogue and choices. Where Witcher does the choices really well, as well as some nice gameplay and a brilliantly built world, and Mass Effect does the dialogue as a whole brilliantly, but fumbles a bit on gameplay, though with a better written story.
I can see a heavy open world bias in this list, Bethesda and Rockstar in particular. Seems more of a "Games I like" than "transcending their genre" list because of this IMO.
I could ***** and ***** about how much I dislike this list, but #I don't think that would be very helpful, or productive. So instead, I'm going to jot down a list of games I think should replace any of the games on this list, with some little reasons. No, my bias is no better
Punch-out for Wii, While not as hard as the first two games, the look and feel of this gem is absolutely fantastic. And you get to box Donkey Kong, 10/10
Digimon World 2. Fusion Mechanics aside, this RPG is truly superb. It kinda feels like baby's first SMT, what with the bribing monsters to join your group and fusing them together to further them along, which leads to...
Any SMT game. Yes, I know this is a cop-out answer, but in a series as wide and as varying as Shin Megami Tensei, It really depends on the player. If you want balls to the wall hard, go with Nocturne. Fan of Fire Emblem? Devil Survivor, A little more old school? SMT 4, and do I even need to mention the Persona series? Really, this entry should just say "Persona 4, nuff said" but I wanted to give the rest of the franchise a little love.
Now, you may agree or disagree that Katawa Shoujo can be called a game, but I'm not going to argue that. What I will say is that everyone should try it on basis. Two things will happen. Either A, you love it, and then it's a great introduction to the genre, or you'll dislike it, and know not to spend any money on other VNs.
Honestly, I think a party game should be on here, and when it comes to party games, no one tops Wario. Warioware inc. for the gamecube is pretty much a more condensed, sillier version of Mario Party, but you'll come out of it laughing instead of hating your friends,
Rayman Origins, Simply put, I believe this is platforming perfection. The levels are designed to be fast-paced and fun, dying and resetting is quick so you get right back into the game, and that soundtrack... ooohhhh it's sooo goood. ' "Games everyone should play" will always be a bit exaggerated, but this is something everyone should try once.
Huh. Didn't quite make eight. whatever, I guess that's why they don't pay me to make these lists.
Punch-out for Wii, While not as hard as the first two games, the look and feel of this gem is absolutely fantastic. And you get to box Donkey Kong, 10/10
Digimon World 2. Fusion Mechanics aside, this RPG is truly superb. It kinda feels like baby's first SMT, what with the bribing monsters to join your group and fusing them together to further them along, which leads to...
Any SMT game. Yes, I know this is a cop-out answer, but in a series as wide and as varying as Shin Megami Tensei, It really depends on the player. If you want balls to the wall hard, go with Nocturne. Fan of Fire Emblem? Devil Survivor, A little more old school? SMT 4, and do I even need to mention the Persona series? Really, this entry should just say "Persona 4, nuff said" but I wanted to give the rest of the franchise a little love.
Now, you may agree or disagree that Katawa Shoujo can be called a game, but I'm not going to argue that. What I will say is that everyone should try it on basis. Two things will happen. Either A, you love it, and then it's a great introduction to the genre, or you'll dislike it, and know not to spend any money on other VNs.
Honestly, I think a party game should be on here, and when it comes to party games, no one tops Wario. Warioware inc. for the gamecube is pretty much a more condensed, sillier version of Mario Party, but you'll come out of it laughing instead of hating your friends,
Rayman Origins, Simply put, I believe this is platforming perfection. The levels are designed to be fast-paced and fun, dying and resetting is quick so you get right back into the game, and that soundtrack... ooohhhh it's sooo goood. ' "Games everyone should play" will always be a bit exaggerated, but this is something everyone should try once.
Huh. Didn't quite make eight. whatever, I guess that's why they don't pay me to make these lists.