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Director Shane Acker is a visually dynamic director with big ideas and the directorial skills to back up... most of... never mind 9 is actually pretty sub-par. 9's major problems are things that other candy-ass critics would say is made up for by the animation but guess what awesome visual effectsare no excuse to forego basic levels of story and foregoing the development part of characterization.

One major problem with 9 is it's story, a story which is driven by the main character's complete idiocy and incompetence isn't a story i would expect from a major motion picture, perhaps from a fifth graders 3-page epic novella then it wouldn't matter as much but this was written by people who are PAID to write and yet they come up with something only the writers of the Micheal Bay Transformers movies could call "Epic interesting storytelling". The story's midsection could Possibly have been forgiven for their mediocrity if not for the complete idiocy that comes from 9 in the opening act which is what drives the story along in the first place, Kids if some evil dog like thing is trying to place a magical doodad in a wierd shaped hole which it fits in you Do Not Want To Put It There, it's going to be bad, Trust Me. But the other portion that doesn't make a lick of sense is the ending. The ending makes no snese which hurts the film bad, first a sucky intro then a mediocre mid then a sucktasmal end, not cool guys.

The characters are another problem or precisely the main character is the problem. The main character operates on some kind of OCD logic where everything must go in it's proper place else the world will end. Or at least that's the explanation i choose to explain 9's idiocy and possibly why he never participates much in the fights is because the backdrop of the dystopian future is distracting him from the monsters ahead. "AHHHHH, 9 help us it's trying to eat us" "but this plank is lopsided". Now in a lot of other movies this would be considered to be a small problem certainly not worth the loss of 7 whole points but that is the problem here, every OTHER movie, meaning movies that are less original looking than 9. 9's animation isn't just top-notch stuff it's top-notch Original stuff which makes all these other problems take the center stage because suddenly you are thinking "Wowza these effects are Fuckin' A but God am i supposed to root for this idiot they've thrown in our face".

So All In All it's one good idea surrounded by useless filler.
 

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"snese". Nice.

Seriously, though, I'm with you. Hearing Tim Burton's name always sends shivers down my spine (the good kind) whenever it's related to any movie that's coming out, so I was desperately trying to like 9. But I couldn't. At least when the sackboys started the talky-talky. When they were silent (like they were in the original short film), they gave me a chance to revel in the post-apocolyptic beauty of 9's world, which might be the most beautiful thing I've seen since the action scenes in Wanted. But when they started to talk, the plot kicked in. The plot shares a lot of similarities to that of The Conduit, if Yahtzee can be believed, because like the Conduit "it's barely there and yet practically inpenetrable". How does that ending work? I won't say it here because I don't know how to turn the spoilers box on, but still... oh, and I'm right with you when 9 sticks the magical doodad in what is very clearly a "FuckUsAllHard" machine just because it looks like it fits. When I saw it, I actually screamed at the screen, "Don't put it in there, dumbass!" much to the annoyance of the audience. But seriously, I haven't seen anything more stupid since those kids in Friday the 13th who hear a rustling in the woods a billion miles away and decide to go investigate one at a time.

All in all, 9's beauty makes up for its total lack of plot, and they seem to know this, as the scenes of the characters talking are mercifully few and far between. So I would give it a B-, due to poor story but simply beautiful animation.
 

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This movie looks amazing, but as has been said, the plot made me want to cry. Simplicity is not a good thing here, because it extends to the characterization as well. There's a serious lack of development so I didn't really care much when the characters were in peril. Then the ending...made no sense.

I mean, if the killer machine had no soul, but was absorbing all the parts of the soul from the sackboys, wouldn't it eventually have a complete soul and therefore be "fixed"? I was hoping all the sackboys would get absorbed to cause the brain-bot to become a benevolent force in the world.
 

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I thought the movie was decent enough, if only for the spectacle and somewhat creative art design.

I could ***** and moan quite a bit about the story, but I'll just ask this single question.
Why in the everloving fuck would 9 think it's a good idea to insert the soul transfer device into that machine, especially considering the hunter was trying to do the same fucking thing? It makes no fucking sense!
 

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I'm guessing that since the sackboys were fragments of one person, they're all shortsighted and irrational dealing with anything different from the soul fragment that they hold. Also, the robot might not of become good because they mentioned that not having a soul only makes something easier to corrupt, not impossible.

Okay, that's about as far as I can defend this movie. I saw it, wasn't bad, would've preferred a little...dunno, creativity?
 

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I agree about the ending.

Hooray. We got Rain. And killed the metal monster thingy.

Doesn't change the fact that the 4 remaining sackboys are(apparently) the only living things left on earth(which looks like Dresden) and they don't have the ability to make more of themselves.

The Earth is yours. Enjoy it.
 

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Yeah, I saw it, and I think that what they've actually done is taken a fantastic 10-miniute long short film, and padded it.

Mind you, the short film had little story, absolutely no dialouge, but it worked
 

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well the lack of story could be a fault of trying to extend a short movie. Having a good short story doesn't mean if you fill in a heap load more chapters and dialogue that it will become a good novel.
 

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Horizontalvertigo said:
well the lack of story could be a fault of trying to extend a short movie. Having a good short story doesn't mean if you fill in a heap load more chapters and dialogue that it will become a good novel.
Well, it might, if you expanded on the ideas and characters and plot in the story in an effective manner, bringing the material to it's full potentional.

Characterization and backstory would have helped 9 a lot. Perhaps explain the deal with the machine that made the dolls come to life, and the pendent.

Something more then just add more action sequences. Nothing wrong with them, but the movie feels like it could have done so much more by making it deeper, not just more exciting.
 

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Nigh Invulnerable said:
I mean, if the killer machine had no soul, but was absorbing all the parts of the soul from the sackboys, wouldn't it eventually have a complete soul and therefore be "fixed"? I was hoping all the sackboys would get absorbed to cause the brain-bot to become a benevolent force in the world.
Shhhh.... you are not supposed to think of that HUGE plothole. That was one of the first things I thought of when I figured out what was going on.
Overall, I liked the movie, and I am glad I went and saw it.

Also, anyone have a youtube link or something to the original short? I would like to see it.
 

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I thought the movie was decent enough, if only for the spectacle and somewhat creative art design.

I could ***** and moan quite a bit about the story, but I'll just ask this single question.
Why in the everloving fuck would 9 think it's a good idea to insert the soul transfer device into that machine, especially considering the hunter was trying to do the same fucking thing? It makes no fucking sense!
9 is functionally retarded, didn't you notice? The character developme-sorry, I can't finish that thought with a straight face. There was no character development to speak of, so I guess 9 could've literally been retarded and we just didn't notice since he's so shallow in the film.
 

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TheRealCJ said:
Yeah, I saw it, and I think that what they've actually done is taken a fantastic 10-miniute long short film, and padded it.

Mind you, the short film had little story, absolutely no dialouge, but it worked
I agree. The lack of dialogue and minimalist narrative worked.

Because it was a short film.

Making it feature length only left them with alot of time to fill before the inevitably pointless ending, meaning it'd be nothing by Hollywood filler, Burton aesthetic and go-nowhere "storytelling".
I tried to warn everyone before it came out, but NOOOOOOO no one listens to me. A FILM critic. Jackasses.
 

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GDW said:
TheRealCJ said:
Yeah, I saw it, and I think that what they've actually done is taken a fantastic 10-miniute long short film, and padded it.

Mind you, the short film had little story, absolutely no dialouge, but it worked
I agree. The lack of dialogue and minimalist narrative worked.

Because it was a short film.

Making it feature length only left them with alot of time to fill before the inevitably pointless ending, meaning it'd be nothing by Hollywood filler, Burton aesthetic and go-nowhere "storytelling".
I tried to warn everyone before it came out, but NOOOOOOO no one listens to me. A FILM critic. Jackasses.
BURN THE WITCH CRITIC.
 

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ugh it was dumb all the way yeah the souls thing was also lame.but the ending that was tolerable