A genderless world

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Xvito

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From the dawn of man, and even earlier, there has always existed genders. Male and female. But we can't have always known about them. Yes, they probably noticed something was different about those other people that smelled nice (or whatever), but surely people can't always have known that there were two kinds of people, male and female.

And at that time it was just people having sexual intercourse with other people, and not women having sexual intercourse with men, or men having sexual intercourse with other men.

But then, at some point in time, something changed. We started grouping people together, we started to separate ourselves from those that were different.

When do you think this happened? Do you think it's good that it happened? Maybe, you think it's always been this way...? Let us know!
 

Redingold

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Of course people would have always known. Otherwise they would have done it with whoever, man or woman. Also, where'd your signature go?
 

Antlers

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But... I don't understand your question. Male animals have sex with female animals. Gender DID always exist, just because it wasn't given a name.
 

Cargando

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It probably started as soon as we developed language, however the roles of men and women have changed over the years, but some of the oldest statues ever found (dating to the preious Ice-Age) were fertility statues of the female from.

Incidentally I cannot help but wonder what a genderless world would be like now, there must be planets somewhere that have single-gender species.
 

axia777

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BS. Men have always known about women as women have always known about men. It is genetic. The same is in the animal world. You cannot escape your DNA.
 

Cakes

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What are you on about? There's always been a distinction between male and female.
 

Internet Kraken

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What are you talking about? I'm pretty sure that primitive humans, no matter how stupid, knew the difference between a male and a female.

Redingold said:
Also, where'd your signature go?
I'm pretty sure a mod told him to stop posting it.
 

El Poncho

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Well even animals do it sort of, so i'm guessing instincts. We have all been evolving for LOTTTTSSSS of years so I guess we had instincts telling us, we just put noise to them.
 

Simalacrum

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its instinctive, we've probably always known. Look at animals, females and males in nature act differently to one another, no? Like lions... the female always does the hunting, while the male dominates over the pack.
 

Ilovechocolatemilk

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Hrm, I was expecting an interesting discussion about the differences between sex and gender and how such differences arose but instead what I got from the OP was a confused rant about consciousness.

Eh.
 

NeutralMunchHotel

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Instinct? How did we know that that goes in there? Because our parents told us. And how did they know? Their parents told them. And so on and so on. But it must've started somewhere, someone discovered it, and that was when information stored in us somewhere kicked in. Our brain knows what we have to do to survive, so it tells us to do it subconciously.
 

Mookie_Magnus

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What he means is what happened to cause the sudden separation between the two genders that resulted in things such as sexism, and whatnot.

My guess is that people became smart. At least smarter than the average beast. As we advanced as a species, we saw that things were different... and we thought: "Hmm... why is it that those people have different genitalia/skin color/hair color/language/etc. than me?" And being humans, we innately fear what is different and unknown, so we come up with crazy ideas to explain things. The thing is, these explanations usually have some intrinsic detail that favors the person explaining it.
 

Disaster Button

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My guess answer to your question would be instinct or genetic memory though

Similarly, how d'you tihnk the reaction the first pregnancy was?
 

Antlers

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Gilbert Munch said:
Instinct? How did we know that that goes in there? Because our parents told us. And how did they know? Their parents told them. And so on and so on. But it must've started somewhere, someone discovered it, and that was when information stored in us somewhere kicked in. Our brain knows what we have to do to survive, so it tells us to do it subconciously.
I don't think it's because our parents told us. Why would it happen in the animal kingdom?
 

ryuutchi

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Gender as a social construct has always existed-- but not always in the way we consider it now. Many societies thought there were three, four or even five genders.

I think the dual-gender construction is a peculiarly European thing, and the predominance of it (and of the resulting sexism and heteronormativity) happened about the time that the European continent went and colonized most of the rest of the world.
 

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Antlers said:
Gilbert Munch said:
Instinct? How did we know that that goes in there? Because our parents told us. And how did they know? Their parents told them. And so on and so on. But it must've started somewhere, someone discovered it, and that was when information stored in us somewhere kicked in. Our brain knows what we have to do to survive, so it tells us to do it subconciously.
I don't think it's because our parents told us. Why would it happen in the animal kingdom?
Obviously the big bear told the little bear and so on. You know, the awkward talk.
 

Deathsong17

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It started in Roman times, if I remember rightly. The Celts deffinantly didn't indifferate the genders 'till the Romans came 'round.
 

Xvito

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Yes, of course their instincts told them to have sex with those other people (as I stated in the OP). But how would they have known that there were males and females?
 

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Redingold said:
Of course people would have always known. Otherwise they would have done it with whoever, man or woman. Also, where'd your signature go?
Was that a signature on Escapist or on Warcry posts? Escapist has no sigs but Warcry does.

If he was using a ghetto sig in all his posts a Mod probably asked him to stop using it.
 

Redingold

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fix-the-spade said:
Redingold said:
Of course people would have always known. Otherwise they would have done it with whoever, man or woman. Also, where'd your signature go?
Was that a signature on Escapist or on Warcry posts? Escapist has no sigs but Warcry does.

If he was using a ghetto sig in all his posts a Mod probably asked him to stop using it.
Escapist, he used to end all his posts with Xvito, keeping it excellent or something.