A hard day's work.

[GothmogII]

A hard day's work.
An honest day's work.

What do those mean to you? The reason I'm asking is, as of late, I've been getting a kind of...vibe, a vibe that's telling me that those who happen to work in an environment with little physical labour, or a position that is essentially, non-essential, is less somehow, than say cutting firewood or building houses.

The corrupt corporate pencil pusher versus the noble lumberjack.

Note at this point I don't find either better or worse than the other, just that I'm getting the feeling that it's assumed that I should feel that unless I've worked myself to the bone at the end of every day it's worth diddly. And neither do I denigrate those who -do- work themselves very very hard, nor also do I think others should get a free ride through outright laziness.


So, what are your thoughts on it?

 

[crimson5pheonix]

Somebody that doesn't swing axes and wear woman's clothing is no better or worse than somebody who does. Management is important work.

 

[Hunde Des Krieg]

He's a lumberjack and he's okay!

EDIT: but seriously though, a hard day's work is quite satisfying compared to working in an office or the like.

 

[Chimpa]

Somebody that doesn't swing axes and wear woman's clothing is no better or worse than somebody who does. Management is important work.

Depends heavily on its implementation. My father works as a manager in the NHS, he admits himself that his position is totally redundant. The system was implemented in order to attempt to streamline the peon, warlord interface, but in the end its added a load of positions that are clearly not required. However, their paying him more to do the same job as before so i don't think he cares.

 

[crimson5pheonix]

Somebody that doesn't swing axes and wear woman's clothing is no better or worse than somebody who does. Management is important work.

Depends heavily on its implementation. My father works as a manager in the NHS, he admits himself that his position is totally redundant. The system was implemented in order to attempt to streamline the peon, warlord interface, but in the end its added a load of positions that are clearly not required. However, their paying him more to do the same job as before so i don't think he cares.

Well that's not to say that my statement is 100%, but there are positions that are required that don't involve lifting more than 10 lbs.

 

[jim_doki]

ever since the industrial revolution people have thought we're getting lazy, and computers haven't helped any. there is no shame in working behind a desk supporting systems, helping people arrange their money, all that stuff. just because you dont lift heavy things doesn't make you less of a person

that said, there are a lot of people who lift things quietly (like shelf stackers) that are vital to society. there is certainly no shame in that either.

 

[Ago Iterum]

I carry boxes around all day. It's hardly braving the wilderness, but it's not sitting at a desk, and I feel like I'm doing something for my money.

 

[Ago Iterum]

ever since the industrial revolution people have thought we're getting lazy, and computers haven't helped any. there is no shame in working behind a desk supporting systems, helping people arrange their money, all that stuff. just because you dont lift heavy things doesn't make you less of a person

that said, there are a lot of people who lift things quietly (like shelf stackers) that are vital to society. there is certainly no shame in that either.

You there, yes, you! That one what you said.

More coherantly, I'm a shelf-stacker. But for a furniture section. I get payed the same as someone who sits at a till doing nothing when it's quiet, and I lug tables around all day.

Damn these mild communistic traits, distinctly lacking in communisms fundimental aims and distinctive features, therefor rendering is not communism... Or is it...

...No, it's not.

 

[Zac_Dai]

I think a hard days work meant something when chopping logs all day meant your family wouldn't freeze during winter.

Now its redundant, the mantra should be work smart rather than work hard.

Most people have to admit that there is a lot of ineffieceny and poor management in workplaces at least in my experience there has been.

 

[Scolar Visari]

Whichever option you choose I don't think anything can beat that feeling you get at the end of a long day of physical work. Nothing in life can compare to looking up and seeing whatever it was that you built with your own hands.

 

[Ace of Spades]

You're tired as hell, but you've accomplished something major.

 

[Scolar Visari]

Damn right and you sleep like a baby.

 

[xitel]

I find that what you're doing in a physical labor job matters less than who you do it with. I hated my job, but my coworkers were great folks, so the work was enjoyable despite being crap.