Actually, they have every right to be on the road. Considering how it is illegal for them to ride on pavements, I don't see what other choice they have. Pedestrians have a god damn right to walk on the road too, just because you're in a car doesnt mean you own the road. This kind of arrogance from drivers is something I have experienced first hand many a times, most of our family are cyclists. So no, I am not 'pissed off' about cyclists being on the road, which is something they have every right to do, BY LAW, but I am pissed off by arrogant motorists that think they own the road.Gentleman_Reptile said:*ahem*
Get. Off. The. Road.
You do not have the right to be in the same lane as a driver. You do not have an engine. You are not a car.
Why does that cost the other drivers anything?lechat said:EDIT: what i hate most about bike riders is the bastards rock up to a red light then go cruise over to the pedestrian crossing and suddenly magically transform themselves into pedestrians and use the crossing. it's awesome that that you save yourself 30 seconds at the cost of all other drivers who have to wait for the lights to go through a crossing cycle but 2 minuets later i'm just gonna be riding your ass again
Making a nice case there for cyclists being just people trying to get somewhere, and not smug, arrogant little roadhogs. Well done.manic_depressive13 said:Dear Motorists,
Stop contributing so much to pollution and learn to ride a bike or catch a train. You probably don't need a private vehicle.
Thank you.
depending on the set of lights and what point it is in the cycle, hitting a pedestrian crossing can slow the lights from changingZykon TheLich said:Why does that cost the other drivers anything?lechat said:EDIT: what i hate most about bike riders is the bastards rock up to a red light then go cruise over to the pedestrian crossing and suddenly magically transform themselves into pedestrians and use the crossing. it's awesome that that you save yourself 30 seconds at the cost of all other drivers who have to wait for the lights to go through a crossing cycle but 2 minuets later i'm just gonna be riding your ass again
You mean they have sensors in them to detect if people are crossing?lechat said:depending on the set of lights and what point it is in the cycle, hitting a pedestrian crossing can slow the lights from changing
It's not 100% clear when you're OK with with people crossing when cars are stationary, but if you are, then I'm sorry but you can't have it both ways. Pedestrians, cyclists and motorists should be considered equal, therefore if you're strongly against cyclists going through a crossing then it's hypocritical not to be against pedestrians who cross when they shouldn't. As a cyclist I could just as well say "...it's outrageous that they presume they don't have to stop" when people cross the road during a traffic jam.MasterOfHisOwnDomain said:What I hate about cyclists, speaking as someone who is mostly a pedestrian, is when they sometimes act as cars and sometimes don't. If you want to occupy the same space as cars, you need to consistently obey their rules. I swear if I step across a pelican crossing again, only to be almost hit by a cyclist, I will just push them over ... it's outrageous that they presume they don't have to stop. Similarly, if you're going into the imaginary middle lane you've created by being smaller than cars, then don't automatically assume people don't want to cross the road between those cars if they're stationary.
I'm in the same boat. In Australia, you're not meant to ride on the footpath (Which is almost always empty in the suburbs), but the roads aren't wide enough for cars to overtake.Rose and Thorn said:In my city we don't really have any Bicycle lanes, so the cyclists have to find their own space on the side of the road. They also aren't allowed on the side walk. I find it really stupid and highly dangerous. People have been going on and on about proper bike lanes and bike highways. The city I live in is very bicycle heavy, so the mayor knows that this needs to be done and has mentioned many times he plans on updating our bike space.
I never ride my bicycle on the road, because as you said it is fucking stupid and very dangerous. Even if I am super careful and never do reckless things, there is so many stupid drivers I just don't feel safe being around cars on a bicycle.
You have to look at it from both sides. Reckless bicycle riders are just as annoying as reckless vehicle drivers. Large cities need proper bike lanes.
Yep. Depending on where you are, there are 3 systems activating the lights: A timer, a metal detector, and the pedestrian crossing. Some lights only change when there is a car or a pedestrian wishing to cross the main lane.Zykon TheLich said:You mean they have sensors in them to detect if people are crossing?lechat said:depending on the set of lights and what point it is in the cycle, hitting a pedestrian crossing can slow the lights from changing
I wouldn't call it "few" exceptions. Plenty of people work night shift where there isn't 24/7 public transport. Here the trains and buses stop at around midnight, if you get off work after that you NEED a car, period.Talaris said:Obviously in your case it seems that you do need a car, thus making you one of the few exceptions. Though I would point out that unless you live and work really far from a train station, taking a train would faster and cheaper.Lost In The Void said:manic_depressive13 said:Dear Motorists,
Stop contributing so much to pollution and learn to ride a bike or catch a train. You probably don't need a private vehicle.
Thank you.I love comments like this. Of course I'll give up my car to bike to work. I'd love to bike nearly 100 km a day in -25 to -30 C weather. I agree city congestion could be rectified with more people using public transport, but please, do not paint us all with the same brush because some of us can't actually do anything but drive to work.Queen Michael said:Dear cyclists, thank you for choosing a method of getting around that doesn't involve filling our air with poison.
Ah, I see, where I come from either you cross when the lights are red or there's a little button that will eventually get round to it but doesn't extend the time you can cross in, so as a cyclist you would either be able to cross with the cars or use the crossing as a pedestrian without making a difference to the light cycle.Loonyyy said:Yep. Depending on where you are, there are 3 systems activating the lights: A timer, a metal detector, and the pedestrian crossing. Some lights only change when there is a car or a pedestrian wishing to cross the main lane.
When I said "few" exceptions it was in reference to a world population, not just the odd 3 or 4 people. That can still take into account the minority of people who work night shifts, unless there is a very large nocturnal culture I don't know about. And no the drinking culture doesn't count.That Hyena Bloke said:I wouldn't call it "few" exceptions. Plenty of people work night shift where there isn't 24/7 public transport. Here the trains and buses stop at around midnight, if you get off work after that you NEED a car, period.Talaris said:Obviously in your case it seems that you do need a car, thus making you one of the few exceptions. Though I would point out that unless you live and work really far from a train station, taking a train would faster and cheaper.Lost In The Void said:manic_depressive13 said:Dear Motorists,
Stop contributing so much to pollution and learn to ride a bike or catch a train. You probably don't need a private vehicle.
Thank you.I love comments like this. Of course I'll give up my car to bike to work. I'd love to bike nearly 100 km a day in -25 to -30 C weather. I agree city congestion could be rectified with more people using public transport, but please, do not paint us all with the same brush because some of us can't actually do anything but drive to work.Queen Michael said:Dear cyclists, thank you for choosing a method of getting around that doesn't involve filling our air with poison.
I don't mind cyclists, so long as they stick to the side of the road as they're supposed to. Don't go coasting at a leisurely pace in the middle of the lane when a conga line of cars are trying to pass you. Also, cyclists need to give way to pedestrians just like cars do, just because you have a bike lane doesn't mean people never have to cross it. I've heard some very uppity cyclists whining about that, even though the paths are piratically designed to force people to cross them.