A message to Kingdom Hearts developers: Stop that!

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Shuichi_boy

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Kingdom Hearts II was a good game. I replay it often and I enjoy most of it.

Except...

Singing? Are you people serious? Your little singing thing is only suitable for the 5-year-old age bracket. But, you have to do it to get the ultimate weapon in the game. Fine. I'll turn on mute and go along with your little shenanigan.

Surely they wouldn't do that again.

So, now I have KH: BBS. Yay, it's fun too! No more card-based battle system like the GBA version. But...

Match-the-beat ice cream shooting game? And you HAVE to do it to progress? Shoot me now... Oh, you made it difficult so that you have to try it six freaking times before you can move on? Oh joy. Ah, finally, I did it! Now I can move on! What, you say I unlocked the "difficult" version? NoNoNoNoNoNoNoNoNo... NO! I refuse. I don't care if the prize is world peace and prosperity. Human beings can only take so much audio/visual punishment. The only way I'd consider it is if you let me shoot Huey, Dewy, and Louie right in the nads with ice cream.

Message to SquareEnix: Please, please stop putting kiddie crap in Kingdom Hearts! Sure, it's Disney stuff, but you haven't made a kiddie game here. I made the mistake of letting a little kid play my KH once. Yeah, that didn't go well at all.

Are there any other games out there that put insert mini-games that are completely out of sync for their target audience? Hmmm... Possibly FFX. I buy a FF game for FF. If I wanted a sports game, I'd get a sports game.

Eh, I've rambled enough. Feel free to agree with me or roundly abuse me for this thread. :)
 

Gxas

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I just don't like the fact that Squeenix decided a good idea would be to release different games on different consoles, but have the story intertwine.
 

oplinger

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I read the title, and thought you were telling them to stop Kingdom Hearts. I came here to agree. >.>

..Now I'm disappointed. KH is a kiddie game...a kiddie series. It's like Disney made a JRPG (...see what I did there?)

....So maybe...KH isn't for you anymore? >.>
 

Sacman

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I didn't mind them... I just put some Nirvana over it...<.<
 

Xannieros

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I'd tell them to "Stop that!" for another reason. Stop making these handheld games and bring us Kingdom Hearts 3 already!
 

Atticus89

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You think that's bad? Try playing this one mini-game in Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Shards. No instructions, no indication of what is right and wrong, and you need to pass it in order to progress with the story.

Seriously, SquareEnix used to be good with their mini-games but now they're just annoying.
 

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I'm pretty fine with it, you only have to play it once and it inject a little variety into the games.
I just wish the songs were better but here's hoping for a sitar hero mini-game in KH3 where you can play as demyx.
 

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Shuichi_boy said:
Hmmm... Possibly FFX. I buy a FF game for FF. If I wanted a sports game, I'd get a sports game.
I see eye to eye with that.

But yeah, I totally agree. Personally, its totally fine with me to include such things, but when they're REQUIRED for storyline progression... That's drawing the line.
Expanding upon your FFX comment, Blitzball was unique and all, but, I nearly died inside when it required me to go through it to continue the story. Furthermore, I never even bothered with Wakka's celestial weapon *sigh*.
 

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Shuichi_boy said:
Kingdom Hearts II was a good game. I replay it often and I enjoy most of it.

Except...

Singing? Are you people serious? Your little singing thing is only suitable for the 5-year-old age bracket. But, you have to do it to get the ultimate weapon in the game. Fine. I'll turn on mute and go along with your little shenanigan.

Surely they wouldn't do that again.

So, now I have KH: BBS. Yay, it's fun too! No more card-based battle system like the GBA version. But...

Match-the-beat ice cream shooting game? And you HAVE to do it to progress? Shoot me now... Oh, you made it difficult so that you have to try it six freaking times before you can move on? Oh joy. Ah, finally, I did it! Now I can move on! What, you say I unlocked the "difficult" version? NoNoNoNoNoNoNoNoNo... NO! I refuse. I don't care if the prize is world peace and prosperity. Human beings can only take so much audio/visual punishment. The only way I'd consider it is if you let me shoot Huey, Dewy, and Louie right in the nads with ice cream.

Message to SquareEnix: Please, please stop putting kiddie crap in Kingdom Hearts! Sure, it's Disney stuff, but you haven't made a kiddie game here. I made the mistake of letting a little kid play my KH once. Yeah, that didn't go well at all.

Are there any other games out there that put insert mini-games that are completely out of sync for their target audience? Hmmm... Possibly FFX. I buy a FF game for FF. If I wanted a sports game, I'd get a sports game.

Eh, I've rambled enough. Feel free to agree with me or roundly abuse me for this thread. :)

KH is meant to be targeted towards kids, it has Disney characters. The most mature thing for Disney that I know of is Pirates of the Carribean.
 

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oplinger said:
I read the title, and thought you were telling them to stop Kingdom Hearts. I came here to agree. >.>

..Now I'm disappointed. KH is a kiddie game...a kiddie series. It's like Disney made a JRPG (...see what I did there?)

....So maybe...KH isn't for you anymore? >.>
yes because every kiddy game has one of the hardest bosses in current video games.
<youtube=1O1jUtZnEFI> and think about it, these disney movies aren't movies really for kids, they came out when we were all kids (I'm 19) and they should give you a sense of nostalgia. these games aren't for the current disney generation (those little snots growing up on hannah montana and the other trash on the disney channel) but for those who want a game with a fun combat system and strong nostalgia for the movies that shaped your childhood. I'm fine if you don't like the series, but I hope you at least gave it a shot.
 

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Drakmeire said:
oplinger said:
I read the title, and thought you were telling them to stop Kingdom Hearts. I came here to agree. >.>

..Now I'm disappointed. KH is a kiddie game...a kiddie series. It's like Disney made a JRPG (...see what I did there?)

....So maybe...KH isn't for you anymore? >.>
yes because every kiddy game has one of the hardest bosses in current video games.
<youtube=1O1jUtZnEFI> and think about it, these disney movies aren't movies really for kids, they came out when we were all kids (I'm 19) and they should give you a sense of nostalgia. these games aren't for the current disney generation (those little snots growing up on hannah montana and the other trash on the disney channel) but for those who want a game with a fun combat system and strong nostalgia for the movies that shaped your childhood. I'm fine if you don't like the series, but I hope you at least gave it a shot.
Because difficulty isn't for kids! Yeah! No kids game has ever been -hard- Nooooo way. So you were what, 11 when KH came out? 14 for KH2? You were the games target audience. Aladdin came out in...92? you were in diapers. Alice in Wonderland? 1952. You didn't "grow up" with these. You were shown them as "classics" it's not the same. Jungle Book? 67. You can have Hercules though. that was 97, you were 6.

Consider this, games were, and more or less still are, considered toys for kids, Contra, was considered a toy for kids. Pac-man, Defender, Space Invaders, all those old games, most become extremely difficult after a while. Kids loved them.

The game is for kids. Even kids -movies- touch on themes the same way as the game. Yes it's fun. but that doesn't stop it from aiming at angsty 13 year olds. ...Also I liked KH when I was younger. ...I don't remember half of it, and I can't stomach it now. Never cared to try 2.
 

Slick Samurai

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SINGING?! In a Disney game?! In the Little Mermaid level?! PREPOSTEROUS!!!

Obviously, Kingdom Hearts is only meant for the most hardcore of hardcore gamers. After all, it has that one really hard *optional* boss fight!

Even the wimpy, regular, non-hardest-of-hardcore gamers wouldn't pick up a part Disney, part Square game to experience a mix between the nostalgia of RPG's and Disney movies.

NO! Everyone who has ever played a Kingdom Hearts game goes in fully expecting Winnie the Pooh to use a chainsaw mounted machine gun to mow down unsuspecting woodland creatures! Seriously, Disney, STOP putting musicals in the Little Mermaid! My masculinity has already been challenged through blue ice-cream, and the closet door can only stay shut for so long!
 

Ashcrexl

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well, the required song in BBS is it's a small world and everybody loves that song right? and one of the other songs is the destiny island theme! i thought i would never hear that again in a KH game! and to be fair, the boss fight with ursula song in KHII was pretty badass too.
 

AyreonMaiden

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I'm glad for the singing, honestly, because it takes the sting off of everything else and reminds me that this game is actually somewhat Disney as opposed to just the absolute worst storytelling techniques SE had to offer.

I remember when KH had a good story. I remember when it wasn't a fanfiction of itself.
 

C117

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Let's hope Kingdom Hearts 3 becomes a scary, serious game. I liked the seriousness in KH1.
 

Shuichi_boy

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Before I first played KH, I thought it was a kiddie game too. I was wrong. First up, I actually let a kid play it and it scared the beejeebers out of him. Secondly, there's this tongue-in-cheek undercurrent to the whole series that is clearly geared towards the older crowd.

Mostly, what got in my craw about KH:BBS was the fact that you were forced to play through the ice cream game to progress. And listening to "Small World" six times in a row is enough to make anyone nuts. I'd have been more ambivalent about the experience had it been optional. Still annoyed, but mostly ambivalent, which is the very reason why I didn't make much of a fuss over the singing part in KH2. Then I could have just given up on it and moved on.

SquareEnix has a thing about bizarrely stupid mini-games. I loved the mini-games in FFVII. It seemed to go downhill from there. FFX has that "dodge the lightning 200 times" game. Uh... no. I'm at least thankful that wasn't a requirement. They also do things that almost require you to get a guide. FFXII has four specific treasure chests that you cannot open if you want the ultimate weapon. Which chests are they? No indication is given in the game. Hell, the game doesn't even mention that there is such a requirement for the weapon. Gee... thanks a lot, Square. You could at least have given us a fighting chance...
 

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Sir John the Net Knight said:
It's Disney. Anything involving Disney is prone to musical numbers. I'm quite amazed KH1 got away with so little singing.
That is a major part of why it's the only game in the series I like.